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Jul 29, 2021 05:46:47   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
I've shared what I see through my magnified lenses through my focus stacking sessions in my posts on UHH and I wanted to take a moment to share how truely inexpensive magnified macro focus stacking can be and the results you can expect.

First, any interchangeable lens digital camera will do. Nothing special is required so you can even use an older one that you may still have. I use a little Fujifilm X-T20 APS-C size sensor camera for all my sessions now.

Next comes a lens, or better yet, a microscope objective. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND the AmScope 4X Plan Achromatic Finite objective that sells for $22.00. It is what I used to produce the image of the flesh fly attached. It provides an ample working distance for illumination which is quite important with higher magnification work. When considering buying any microscope objective be sure to read the technical information regarding its working distance. Many compound microscope objectives have only a sliver of working distance between the end of the objective and the subject for they are intended for use with flat glass specimen slides which they will nearly touch it.

This is a 'finite' objective so all that is required is to extend it in some fashion (bellows, extension tubes, helicoid, etc.) to a distance of 160mm from the plain of the camera's sensor to the tip of the objective. Bellows or tubes can be had new for under $40 on Amazon which work well.

Because the depth of field is ever so shallow...thinner than a sheet of paper at times, a way of taking shot after shot as the camera advances from the closest point of the subject in focus (like the tip of a hair) to the furthest point of focus that you want seen sharp in the final image. This can be done manually, which is the way that I started, however having a digital motorized focus rail takes all the effort out of the process and it eliminates the need to touch the camera or to actuate the shutter as you sit there with the release or timer. This does all of the functions necessary and it can be controlled by a PC, Tablet or a Smartphone either wired or BlueTooth communication. If you consider venturing into high magnification macro/micro it will be the best investment you will ever make.

Lastly, is illumination which is ultimately important. We can use flash or constant lighting and I prefer constant lighting and I use the IKEA LED desk lamps and I use translucent plastic cups, tracing paper, packing foam, paper towels, writing paper, pieces of milk cartons, ping-pong balls, styrofoam cups and plateware, and an endless list of whatever I think will provide a diffused even lighting. I started out with flashes however I was getting thankyou letters from battery companies for all of the batteries I was buying. I went to studio strobes and they would overheat and poop out on me. These inexpensive LED lamps never cause a problem and they are highly maneuverable. I use three of them for my session.

I know that this is not for everyone however it is a great hobby for it can be done indoors regardless of the weather day or night and it is great for anyone that has mobility limitations that cannot enjoy being out and about with their camera in hand.
I've shared what I see through my magnified lenses... (show quote)


You do fantastic work Gary!!!!
I just don't have the patience to sit there for hundreds of shots and while advancing the focus I find myself trying to see what is in focus, ( and that don't work) So you have no competition from me for the time being.
My other hobbies suck up all my extra money and the Wemacro rail will be the only way to go for me.
Thank you for the fantastic images and all the info.

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Jul 29, 2021 07:52:50   #
randave2001 Loc: Richmond
 
Fantastic information! Now to start collecting specimens for this winter...

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Jul 29, 2021 08:06:56   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
Interesting.

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Jul 29, 2021 09:24:22   #
JRiepe Loc: Southern Illinois
 
Great shot with stunning detail.

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Jul 29, 2021 10:42:50   #
Earnest Botello Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
Great macro of the fly, Gary.

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Jul 29, 2021 12:34:25   #
Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI
 
I heartily second all of this. Also focus stacking can be done with any lens, including a zoom lens, if you want to do stacking of things like flowers or a perched dragonfly. Just nudge the focus ring a little. Most times, movement artifacts can be cleared up in post.

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Jul 29, 2021 13:17:31   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
I've shared what I see through my magnified lenses through my focus stacking sessions in my posts on UHH and I wanted to take a moment to share how truely inexpensive magnified macro focus stacking can be and the results you can expect.

First, any interchangeable lens digital camera will do. Nothing special is required so you can even use an older one that you may still have. I use a little Fujifilm X-T20 APS-C size sensor camera for all my sessions now.

Next comes a lens, or better yet, a microscope objective. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND the AmScope 4X Plan Achromatic Finite objective that sells for $22.00. It is what I used to produce the image of the flesh fly attached. It provides an ample working distance for illumination which is quite important with higher magnification work. When considering buying any microscope objective be sure to read the technical information regarding its working distance. Many compound microscope objectives have only a sliver of working distance between the end of the objective and the subject for they are intended for use with flat glass specimen slides which they will nearly touch it.

This is a 'finite' objective so all that is required is to extend it in some fashion (bellows, extension tubes, helicoid, etc.) to a distance of 160mm from the plain of the camera's sensor to the tip of the objective. Bellows or tubes can be had new for under $40 on Amazon which work well.

Because the depth of field is ever so shallow...thinner than a sheet of paper at times, a way of taking shot after shot as the camera advances from the closest point of the subject in focus (like the tip of a hair) to the furthest point of focus that you want seen sharp in the final image. This can be done manually, which is the way that I started, however having a digital motorized focus rail takes all the effort out of the process and it eliminates the need to touch the camera or to actuate the shutter as you sit there with the release or timer. This does all of the functions necessary and it can be controlled by a PC, Tablet or a Smartphone either wired or BlueTooth communication. If you consider venturing into high magnification macro/micro it will be the best investment you will ever make.

Lastly, is illumination which is ultimately important. We can use flash or constant lighting and I prefer constant lighting and I use the IKEA LED desk lamps and I use translucent plastic cups, tracing paper, packing foam, paper towels, writing paper, pieces of milk cartons, ping-pong balls, styrofoam cups and plateware, and an endless list of whatever I think will provide a diffused even lighting. I started out with flashes however I was getting thankyou letters from battery companies for all of the batteries I was buying. I went to studio strobes and they would overheat and poop out on me. These inexpensive LED lamps never cause a problem and they are highly maneuverable. I use three of them for my session.

I know that this is not for everyone however it is a great hobby for it can be done indoors regardless of the weather day or night and it is great for anyone that has mobility limitations that cannot enjoy being out and about with their camera in hand.
I've shared what I see through my magnified lenses... (show quote)


Thanks for the info Sippy. I have two questions if you have the time...

1. Will the 4X microscope lens give more magnification or better IQ than the 4-4.5X Zhongyi I purchased recently? It seems to work pretty well provided I use it at f/2 or f/2.8.

2. How do you attach the 4X lens? Do step rings go down that far?

Thanks, JackM

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Jul 29, 2021 13:58:03   #
srg
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
Thanks, Joe. My hopes were to share that if anyone would ever have an interest in doing this that they should not be put off by thinking that there is a big investment to do so and it can be done in the comfort of their home year-round.


Wonderful info. Always look forward to your posts. Thanks

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Jul 29, 2021 14:24:50   #
Denny142 Loc: Kentucky, Maui
 
I started with a manual focus rail, but have moved on to the WeMacro rail. Using it with Helicon Remote to control the focus rail and all camera functions from the computer monitor, the images can be auto-imported into Lightroom Classic, and stacked with Helicon Focus as a Lightroom plug-in. A stacked dng file is returned to Lightroom that can further be edited in Lightroom and Photoshop. I have been using the WeMacro rail for a couple of years now.

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Jul 29, 2021 17:46:28   #
AzGriz Loc: Sedona, Arizona
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
I've shared what I see through my magnified lenses through my focus stacking sessions in my posts on UHH and I wanted to take a moment to share how truely inexpensive magnified macro focus stacking can be and the results you can expect.

First, any interchangeable lens digital camera will do. Nothing special is required so you can even use an older one that you may still have. I use a little Fujifilm X-T20 APS-C size sensor camera for all my sessions now.

Next comes a lens, or better yet, a microscope objective. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND the AmScope 4X Plan Achromatic Finite objective that sells for $22.00. It is what I used to produce the image of the flesh fly attached. It provides an ample working distance for illumination which is quite important with higher magnification work. When considering buying any microscope objective be sure to read the technical information regarding its working distance. Many compound microscope objectives have only a sliver of working distance between the end of the objective and the subject for they are intended for use with flat glass specimen slides which they will nearly touch it.

This is a 'finite' objective so all that is required is to extend it in some fashion (bellows, extension tubes, helicoid, etc.) to a distance of 160mm from the plain of the camera's sensor to the tip of the objective. Bellows or tubes can be had new for under $40 on Amazon which work well.

Because the depth of field is ever so shallow...thinner than a sheet of paper at times, a way of taking shot after shot as the camera advances from the closest point of the subject in focus (like the tip of a hair) to the furthest point of focus that you want seen sharp in the final image. This can be done manually, which is the way that I started, however having a digital motorized focus rail takes all the effort out of the process and it eliminates the need to touch the camera or to actuate the shutter as you sit there with the release or timer. This does all of the functions necessary and it can be controlled by a PC, Tablet or a Smartphone either wired or BlueTooth communication. If you consider venturing into high magnification macro/micro it will be the best investment you will ever make.

Lastly, is illumination which is ultimately important. We can use flash or constant lighting and I prefer constant lighting and I use the IKEA LED desk lamps and I use translucent plastic cups, tracing paper, packing foam, paper towels, writing paper, pieces of milk cartons, ping-pong balls, styrofoam cups and plateware, and an endless list of whatever I think will provide a diffused even lighting. I started out with flashes however I was getting thankyou letters from battery companies for all of the batteries I was buying. I went to studio strobes and they would overheat and poop out on me. These inexpensive LED lamps never cause a problem and they are highly maneuverable. I use three of them for my session.

I know that this is not for everyone however it is a great hobby for it can be done indoors regardless of the weather day or night and it is great for anyone that has mobility limitations that cannot enjoy being out and about with their camera in hand.
I've shared what I see through my magnified lenses... (show quote)


How do you attach the objective lens or the enlarger lens to the bellows? I use the Nikon bellows. Thanks

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Jul 29, 2021 20:05:22   #
Bubalola Loc: Big Apple, NY
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
I've shared what I see through my magnified lenses through my focus stacking sessions in my posts on UHH and I wanted to take a moment to share how truely inexpensive magnified macro focus stacking can be and the results you can expect.

First, any interchangeable lens digital camera will do. Nothing special is required so you can even use an older one that you may still have. I use a little Fujifilm X-T20 APS-C size sensor camera for all my sessions now.

Next comes a lens, or better yet, a microscope objective. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND the AmScope 4X Plan Achromatic Finite objective that sells for $22.00. It is what I used to produce the image of the flesh fly attached. It provides an ample working distance for illumination which is quite important with higher magnification work. When considering buying any microscope objective be sure to read the technical information regarding its working distance. Many compound microscope objectives have only a sliver of working distance between the end of the objective and the subject for they are intended for use with flat glass specimen slides which they will nearly touch it.

This is a 'finite' objective so all that is required is to extend it in some fashion (bellows, extension tubes, helicoid, etc.) to a distance of 160mm from the plain of the camera's sensor to the tip of the objective. Bellows or tubes can be had new for under $40 on Amazon which work well.

Because the depth of field is ever so shallow...thinner than a sheet of paper at times, a way of taking shot after shot as the camera advances from the closest point of the subject in focus (like the tip of a hair) to the furthest point of focus that you want seen sharp in the final image. This can be done manually, which is the way that I started, however having a digital motorized focus rail takes all the effort out of the process and it eliminates the need to touch the camera or to actuate the shutter as you sit there with the release or timer. This does all of the functions necessary and it can be controlled by a PC, Tablet or a Smartphone either wired or BlueTooth communication. If you consider venturing into high magnification macro/micro it will be the best investment you will ever make.

Lastly, is illumination which is ultimately important. We can use flash or constant lighting and I prefer constant lighting and I use the IKEA LED desk lamps and I use translucent plastic cups, tracing paper, packing foam, paper towels, writing paper, pieces of milk cartons, ping-pong balls, styrofoam cups and plateware, and an endless list of whatever I think will provide a diffused even lighting. I started out with flashes however I was getting thankyou letters from battery companies for all of the batteries I was buying. I went to studio strobes and they would overheat and poop out on me. These inexpensive LED lamps never cause a problem and they are highly maneuverable. I use three of them for my session.

I know that this is not for everyone however it is a great hobby for it can be done indoors regardless of the weather day or night and it is great for anyone that has mobility limitations that cannot enjoy being out and about with their camera in hand.
I've shared what I see through my magnified lenses... (show quote)


No matter what, Sippy, but I think it really takes you, your commitment, experience, patience, and skills to produce these pictures the way they are presented! Hats off!

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Jul 29, 2021 23:11:16   #
sscnxy
 
Mark Sturtevant wrote:
I heartily second all of this. Also focus stacking can be done with any lens, including a zoom lens, if you want to do stacking of things like flowers or a perched dragonfly. Just nudge the focus ring a little. Most times, movement artifacts can be cleared up in post.


Hello again, Mark. Please clarify for me: Movement artifact is blurriness. How is that cleared up in post? Isn't there a useful limit to the sharpening tool, ie, too much sharpening produces an unnatural look?

NY

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Jul 29, 2021 23:58:13   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
Mark Sturtevant wrote:
I heartily second all of this. Also focus stacking can be done with any lens, including a zoom lens, if you want to do stacking of things like flowers or a perched dragonfly. Just nudge the focus ring a little. Most times, movement artifacts can be cleared up in post.


Thanks, Mark. One of the often overlooked methods of being creative with extreme close up detail is to use a wide angle lens. It also captures the environment which adds visual interest and information about the subject. It may not be a true macro yet it has a great place in the salad of possibilities. A step up would be a wide angle macro although the standard wide angle is more multi-purpose.

Shots in the field taken at different depths of focus can be stacked from just a few shots to produce stunning images and again, most often any lens can be used so we should all enjoy what we have at hand.

My goal was to share that we don't need to make a large investment in gear to be creative. I know some fellows that do amazing wildlife shots and the cost of their lens is three times what I paid for my first new car....and it's about as big as that car too!

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Jul 31, 2021 02:48:46   #
mundy-F2 Loc: Chicago suburban area
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
I've shared what I see through my magnified lenses through my focus stacking sessions in my posts on UHH and I wanted to take a moment to share how truely inexpensive magnified macro focus stacking can be and the results you can expect.

First, any interchangeable lens digital camera will do. Nothing special is required so you can even use an older one that you may still have. I use a little Fujifilm X-T20 APS-C size sensor camera for all my sessions now.

Next comes a lens, or better yet, a microscope objective. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND the AmScope 4X Plan Achromatic Finite objective that sells for $22.00. It is what I used to produce the image of the flesh fly attached. It provides an ample working distance for illumination which is quite important with higher magnification work. When considering buying any microscope objective be sure to read the technical information regarding its working distance. Many compound microscope objectives have only a sliver of working distance between the end of the objective and the subject for they are intended for use with flat glass specimen slides which they will nearly touch it.

This is a 'finite' objective so all that is required is to extend it in some fashion (bellows, extension tubes, helicoid, etc.) to a distance of 160mm from the plain of the camera's sensor to the tip of the objective. Bellows or tubes can be had new for under $40 on Amazon which work well.

Because the depth of field is ever so shallow...thinner than a sheet of paper at times, a way of taking shot after shot as the camera advances from the closest point of the subject in focus (like the tip of a hair) to the furthest point of focus that you want seen sharp in the final image. This can be done manually, which is the way that I started, however having a digital motorized focus rail takes all the effort out of the process and it eliminates the need to touch the camera or to actuate the shutter as you sit there with the release or timer. This does all of the functions necessary and it can be controlled by a PC, Tablet or a Smartphone either wired or BlueTooth communication. If you consider venturing into high magnification macro/micro it will be the best investment you will ever make.

Lastly, is illumination which is ultimately important. We can use flash or constant lighting and I prefer constant lighting and I use the IKEA LED desk lamps and I use translucent plastic cups, tracing paper, packing foam, paper towels, writing paper, pieces of milk cartons, ping-pong balls, styrofoam cups and plateware, and an endless list of whatever I think will provide a diffused even lighting. I started out with flashes however I was getting thankyou letters from battery companies for all of the batteries I was buying. I went to studio strobes and they would overheat and poop out on me. These inexpensive LED lamps never cause a problem and they are highly maneuverable. I use three of them for my session.

I know that this is not for everyone however it is a great hobby for it can be done indoors regardless of the weather day or night and it is great for anyone that has mobility limitations that cannot enjoy being out and about with their camera in hand.
I've shared what I see through my magnified lenses... (show quote)


Thanks for the information. Cut ping pong balls are also good light diffusers.
Mundy

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Jul 31, 2021 10:48:05   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
mundy-F2 wrote:
Thanks for the information. Cut ping pong balls are also good light diffusers.
Mundy


Thanks, Mundy and I surely agree and I use them with my 10X microscope objectives. I found the "Dollar Tree" to be a great source for cheap thin rubbery type ping-pong balls that come in a pack of six for $1.00.

I doubt that they would be good for serious ping-pong play however they make wonderful light diffusion for micro photography.

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