Smartphone Cameras vs Dedicated (Page 2): I tell the camera how I want the picture to look! The cellphone camera tells me how it is going to look!

George Limle

I tell the camera how I want the picture to look! The cellphone camera tells me how it is going to look!

sb Loc: Florida's East Coast

I don't understand why we cannot download Aps on our cameras. There are smartphone Aps that allow time-lapse photography, and that allow you to adjust exposure parameters.

Picdude Loc: Ohio

joer wrote:

You obviously have not used a smart phone recently.

On my three year old phone I can set the zoom, metering, ISO, shutter speed, EV, autofocus, white balance, macro and so much more.

Agree 100%. But how many of those images would withstand being printed as a 24" portrait?

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

sb wrote:

I don't understand why we cannot download Aps on our cameras. There are smartphone Aps that allow time-lapse photography, and that allow you to adjust exposure parameters.

Because phones are full of apps, people write apps to do stuff from A-Z on the phone.
People are caught up in gee-whiz-bang things.
Some peoples lives are in their phone.

The demand for time-lapse photography on DSLRs is not a real high runner?
How many people do you know who do time-lapse?
On phones as a gimmick?
Control modules to do that on DSLRs are available.

Maybe the same reason I can't read books on my camera.
Who wants to?

Now if they could just get the phones to do laundry and the dishes.......

Some marketing people really work hard.

Chadp Loc: Virginia Beach

Bobspez wrote:

Smart phones do not have superzoom lenses. I don't believe you can set iso, fps, shutter speed and aperture on a smart phone. You cant tweak jpegs like you can a raw image. They give you the ability to shoot auto, but sometimes auto doesn't do the job, especially when you want to decide things like exposure, depth of field, etc. Most people are happy with their smart phones because they don't care if they don't have the above features, or may not have any knowledge of them.

You can set shutter speed and ISO on a smart phone as well as FPS. I shoot in manual mode on my iPhone quite often. You can also shoot in RAW. Most require a third party app. But You can’t adjust aperture obviously because they use fixed aperture lenses. But I can switch between my three lenses on my iPhone which all have a different aperture. So there is a crude way to adjust aperture.

But I think the OP’s question was more about why camera manufacturers are behind in special features and computational photography that smart phones provide. And my opinion is that they are just behind and have failed to realize the importance of it for their survival. And judging from the very old school sounding responses on this topic, many people don’t realize the importance of it as well. But in all fairness, very few could have predicted the impact of smart phones on photography over the last 15 years. But now they know. So which camera manufacturer is going to be the leader in integrating smart phone type tech? Or, are smart phones going to continue to eat their lunch as they add more camera features?

jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana

Longshadow wrote:

It's a telephameracalcumuter!
And can double as a paperweight!

That, too!

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Ervinbee wrote:

AND... if I wanted to do videography, I'd use a video camera

And I'm not going to admit that it's because I'm old and set in my ways.

Still, if it works, use it.

BebuLamar

jerryc41 wrote:

And I'm not going to admit that it's because I'm old and set in my ways.

Still, if it works, use it.

sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD

I find smart phone camera awkward to hold in these old hands. Pull it out, find the camera icon. Touch the wrong icon anyway finally hit the phone icon only to accidentally touch something else and it disappears. Finally get the camera up and it is upside down and set on slow mo by accident. By the time I finally get it right I have forgotten what I was going to take and it probably had move on anyway.
I love the feel a a DSLR and can have at the ready to take photos the way I have it set... and know those settings will not change unless I change them. I can grab it in a second and snap the photo. Sorry for the rant ,I had to get this out.

CaptKK Loc: Edmond OK

tramsey wrote:

I use the proper tool for the specific job. I don't use my slip joint pliers to pull a tooth and I don't use a telephone to take a picture. Granted some of them are getting pretty good. But I'll use a camera to take a picture and a telephone to call some one.

I just reread this and boy do I sound like an old fuddy duddy.

Many years ago my dad retired early because “they are not going to make me use that stupid computer email.” Then he goes and opens up an antique shop and I show him how to sell on ebay, and he sits on a computer all day long reading emails. He was a fuddy duddy too but a great man nonetheless. Thanks for making me smile this morning. 😂

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

George Limle wrote:

I tell the camera how I want the picture to look! The cellphone camera tells me how it is going to look!

Because that's what most people who use cell phones like!

gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast

Bobspez wrote:

Smart phones do not have superzoom lenses. I don't believe you can set iso, fps, shutter speed and aperture on a smart phone. You cant tweak jpegs like you can a raw image. They give you the ability to shoot auto, but sometimes auto doesn't do the job, especially when you want to decide things like exposure, depth of field, etc. Most people are happy with their smart phones because they don't care if they don't have the above features, or may not have any knowledge of them.

There are apps like Pro Photo that let you have more control over a phone's camera. They use computational imagery to make up for a lack of a lot of mechanical parts that more conventional camera have.

Toment Loc: FL, IL

Smart phones have a tiny sensor. End of story.

wireloose

I think the reality is that smart phones from a marketing perspective are more like cameras with enhanced communications. Not a lot to choose from between different model phones other than OS- Apple or Android- and screen- so if you want folks to upgrade or buy your product the camera is a key feature. No room or power for a big sensor but the volumes are very high and you have what would have been a supercomputer 30 years ago to play with s they get creative with that side of the design. Hopefully some of the computational stuff you mention will continue to spin off into our “real” cameras, if Apple bought Nikon things could get interesting…

Chadp Loc: Virginia Beach

Toment wrote:

Smart phones have a tiny sensor. End of story.

What does this have to do with the OP’s question? Lol.