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Mar 13, 2021 09:28:50   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I wonder if Nikon does well with this camera. I don't see posts saying someone on the UHH bought one.


Here's one. I bought it and I really like it.

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Mar 13, 2021 09:33:54   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I wonder if Nikon does well with this camera. I don't see posts saying someone on the UHH bought one.


Based on the Youtube videos the D780 would definitely be on my list of DSLRs if I were in the market for another.

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Mar 13, 2021 09:50:57   #
BebuLamar
 
Thanks for the replies. So there are UHH members who bought the D780.

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Mar 13, 2021 10:01:34   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Focus on this sort of mindless drivel instead of vision and technique and other things that really matter is why there are so many mediocre images posted throughout this site.

I've acknowledged before that I love well-executed equipment and supplies. So do all of the artists that I know. But as an enabler, not as a crutch nor as an excuse for failure.

That said, there are some really poor cameras on the market today. All designs. Quite a few have been made in the past. Some by my chosen maker. But I can't remember a single case in which the blame had anything to do with the presence or absence of a mirror. It did have everything to do with poor user interface, missing or poor functionality, or poor or inconsiderate overall design.

And from what I am seeing, if your goal is to do photography on a budget, and if the prevailing predictions here really are true, you probably need to be preparing to adjust your goals. I have yet to see a single serious entry-level mirrorless interchangeable lens camera from any manufacturer. At least not one that provides a level of control anywhere close to supporting serious photography.

I have no idea which formats are going to disappear and which will survive and thrive. Neither does anyone else here. I'd suggest we quit worrying about it, given our advanced age, susceptibility to stress- induced health crises, and limited remaining time in the market anyway. Go do something constructive instead.

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Mar 13, 2021 10:21:25   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
larryepage wrote:
Focus on this sort of mindless drivel instead of vision and technique and other things that really matter is why there are so many mediocre images posted throughout this site.

I've acknowledged before that I love well-executed equipment and supplies. So do all of the artists that I know. But as an enabler, not as a crutch nor as an excuse for failure.

That said, there are some really poor cameras on the market today. All designs. Quite a few have been made in the past. Some by my chosen maker. But I can't remember a single case in which the blame had anything to do with the presence or absence of a mirror. It did have everything to do with poor user interface, missing or poor functionality, or poor or inconsiderate overall design.

And from what I am seeing, if your goal is to do photography on a budget, and if the prevailing predictions here really are true, you probably need to be preparing to adjust your goals. I have yet to see a single serious entry-level mirrorless interchangeable lens camera from any manufacturer. At least not one that provides a level of control anywhere close to supporting serious photography.

I have no idea which formats are going to disappear and which will survive and thrive. Neither does anyone else here. I'd suggest we quit worrying about it, given our advanced age, susceptibility to stress- induced health crises, and limited remaining time in the market anyway. Go do something constructive instead.
Focus on this sort of mindless drivel instead of v... (show quote)


Very good points Larry. Let’s take some pictures instead!!

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Mar 13, 2021 10:24:28   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
larryepage wrote:
Focus on this sort of mindless drivel instead of vision and technique and other things that really matter is why there are so many mediocre images posted throughout this site.

I've acknowledged before that I love well-executed equipment and supplies. So do all of the artists that I know. But as an enabler, not as a crutch nor as an excuse for failure.

That said, there are some really poor cameras on the market today. All designs. Quite a few have been made in the past. Some by my chosen maker. But I can't remember a single case in which the blame had anything to do with the presence or absence of a mirror. It did have everything to do with poor user interface, missing or poor functionality, or poor or inconsiderate overall design.

And from what I am seeing, if your goal is to do photography on a budget, and if the prevailing predictions here really are true, you probably need to be preparing to adjust your goals. I have yet to see a single serious entry-level mirrorless interchangeable lens camera from any manufacturer. At least not one that provides a level of control anywhere close to supporting serious photography.

I have no idea which formats are going to disappear and which will survive and thrive. Neither does anyone else here. I'd suggest we quit worrying about it, given our advanced age, susceptibility to stress- induced health crises, and limited remaining time in the market anyway. Go do something constructive instead.
Focus on this sort of mindless drivel instead of v... (show quote)


That’s ridiculous. My mirrorless cameras provide every bit of control I can get from my DSLR’s and then some. Things like manual focus are far superior on mirrorless. Exactly what “control” do you get with a DSLR that you find lacking in mirrorless?

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Mar 13, 2021 11:15:09   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Retired CPO wrote:
Not going to happen!


I have both (DSLR and MILC), and I honestly don’t notice any difference in performance or ease of use. I use the native lenses and the mechanical shutter, so other than not having to cal the lenses on the MILC (advantage) and the small EVF lag and shorter battery life (disadvantages), I really don’t notice any difference, certainly not enough for me to replace my entire kit, and if you’re not going with the new (expensive) lenses designed for the mirrorless body, a big piece of the advantage is gone - any small weight savings in the body (if at all) is obviated by the weight and inconvenience of an adapter. If I were starting from scratch, sure, but for those heavily entrenched in a DSLR system, pretty hard to justify changing over. My cameras have higher performance now than my skills as a photographer (so not the limiting factor to my photography), and pretty sure they will outlast me.

Just my personal opinion.

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Mar 13, 2021 11:22:30   #
BebuLamar
 
TriX wrote:
I have both (DSLR and MILC), and I honestly don’t notice any difference in performance or ease of use. I use the native lenses and the mechanical shutter, so other than not having to cal the lenses on the MILC (advantage) and the small EVF lag and shorter battery life (disadvantages), I really don’t notice any difference, certainly not enough for me to replace my entire kit, and if you’re not going with the new (expensive) lenses designed for the mirrorless body, a big piece of the advantage is gone - any small weight savings in the body (if at all) is obviated by the weight and inconvenience of an adapter. If I were starting from scratch, sure, but for those heavily entrenched in a DSLR system, pretty hard to justify changing over. My cameras have higher performance now than my skills as a photographer (so not the limiting factor to my photography), and pretty sure they will outlast me.

Just my personal opinion.
I have both (DSLR and MILC), and I honestly don’t ... (show quote)


My question isn't about DSLR vs MILC but rather the particular model D780 somehow doesn't seem to be a significant improvement to the D750 for around $800 more. Yet for $700 more than the D780 one can get the D850.

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Mar 13, 2021 11:25:10   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
That’s ridiculous. My mirrorless cameras provide every bit of control I can get from my DSLR’s and then some. Things like manual focus are far superior on mirrorless. Exactly what “control” do you get with a DSLR that you find lacking in mirrorless?



Well put.

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Mar 13, 2021 11:28:01   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Photography is like getting married. One should never commit oneself until you test-drive a mirrorless body.

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Mar 13, 2021 11:55:03   #
Robert1 Loc: Davie, FL
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I wonder if Nikon does well with this camera. I don't see posts saying someone on the UHH bought one.


I have the D750. The D780 while being a very capable camera did not move me going forward as a D750 replacement. To me it was like????? No need, or compelling reason that would have driven me to do it.

For someone new to Nikon, or going from a APS-C to FF then it makes sense. And that if mirrorless is not in the agenda.

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Mar 13, 2021 12:55:46   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Another camera with a mirror, in 2021?


Yes Paul. Many of us, including me, are waiting to test the Z9 for sports work. If that works out, you might see more of us switch. At the moment, I much prefer my DSLRs. And of course, to get the full effects, there's the cost of a completely new set of lenses. Hold your horses my man. And no, I won't be considering any brand other than Nikon. My choice. Best of luck

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Mar 13, 2021 13:23:59   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
TriX wrote:
I have both (DSLR and MILC), and I honestly don’t notice any difference in performance or ease of use. I use the native lenses and the mechanical shutter, so other than not having to cal the lenses on the MILC (advantage) and the small EVF lag and shorter battery life (disadvantages), I really don’t notice any difference, certainly not enough for me to replace my entire kit, and if you’re not going with the new (expensive) lenses designed for the mirrorless body, a big piece of the advantage is gone - any small weight savings in the body (if at all) is obviated by the weight and inconvenience of an adapter. If I were starting from scratch, sure, but for those heavily entrenched in a DSLR system, pretty hard to justify changing over. My cameras have higher performance now than my skills as a photographer (so not the limiting factor to my photography), and pretty sure they will outlast me.

Just my personal opinion.
I have both (DSLR and MILC), and I honestly don’t ... (show quote)


Replacing everything would be disposing of four DSLRs and a dozen lenses to go completely mirrorless and z mount. Seems overkill just for questionable IQ improvement. Of course can’t really say or sure since not owning or shooting an MILC.

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Mar 13, 2021 13:40:32   #
bengbeng Loc: Houston, Texas
 
Started with D610, got the Z6 on release. Almost always use speedlights or strobes. The DSLR form factor does have some advantages (IR focus assist beam and ability to use my screw focus F mount lenses) so I upgraded my D610 to the D780. Love it and using the D780 more than the Z6 now even though the Z lenses are fantastic. I do miss the vertical grip though.

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Mar 13, 2021 13:57:32   #
Country Boy Loc: Beckley, WV
 
When I bought my D780 I considered the D850 and money was not a factor. I could have purchased either but the size of the D850 was more than I wanted and since the D780 was more than I really needed that is what I purchased.

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