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Mar 11, 2021 11:48:25   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
StanMac wrote:
This is another example of the strange idioms of the English language and its spelling. Ysarex is actually correct, but the archaic form is not a fixture in our language today. Somewhere, sometime an English scholar decided that the past participle of the simple word "payed" had to be different for some reason. From a Google search on the forms of the word "pay" at wordhippo.com:

"The past tense of pay is paid or payed (archaic). The third-person singular simple present indicative form of pay is pays. The present participle of pay is paying. The past participle of pay is paid or payed (archaic)."

Some of you UHHers who are English scholars may chime in if you like.

Stan
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Oh, I completely missed that earlier. I didn't realize the grammar and spelling police were after me. Too bad that's such a worthless endeavour that it doesn't pay.

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Mar 11, 2021 11:59:58   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I also use Capture One but only one aspect of it. They are the only ones that have a Lens Color Correction function, which I find critical in the shift/stitch work I occasionally do.

However, Adobe isn't counting on a user rewriting some of their code to work differently than they intended. That's where a lot of effort would go down the drain if I switched to another application.
--Bob
selmslie wrote:
That's what Adobe is counting on.

I moved to Capture One as soon as Adobe said they would no longer support Windows XP about seven years ago, long before they switched to the subscription mode.

It was also apparent to me that Adobe did not know how or did not want to bother supporting the perpetual license mode on more than one platform of Windows. In my experience that could only mean that they did not have the talent or the commitment to do so.

I use CO with a perpetual license and only upgrade when they come out with a feature I really need. My projected future expense for Capture One will be $0 until that happens.
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Mar 11, 2021 12:41:49   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
Ysarex wrote:
Oh, I completely missed that earlier. I didn't realize the grammar and spelling police were after me. Too bad that's such a worthless endeavour that it doesn't pay.


Oh, I wasn't policing your spelling - I didn't even think about it until Naptown Gaijin mentioned it. My curiosity got me to thinking about it as I have a faint memory of seeing the spelling you used in my past sometime ago (although I don't think I'm old enough to be termed "archaic"). My findings were, I thought, worthy of posting in your defense for the comment by Mr. Naptown Gaijin.

Stan

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Mar 11, 2021 12:54:25   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
StanMac wrote:
Oh, I wasn't policing your spelling - I didn't even think about it until Naptown Gaijin mentioned it. My curiosity got me to thinking about it as I have a faint memory of seeing the spelling you used in my past sometime ago (although I don't think I'm old enough to be termed "archaic"). My findings were, I thought, worthy of posting in your defense for the comment by Mr. Naptown Gaijin.

Stan


Yes I understand -- grammar police referred back to the original comment. Thanks.

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Mar 11, 2021 12:56:33   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Delderby wrote:
You can now move up to Affinity


I saw the smiley at the end of your comment, but decided to give my own assessment of Affinity anyway. I own and occasionally use Affinity. Unfortunately while it is a generally great product at a very low cost, for dedicated raw shooters the Develop persona is a real let down. Develop is simply not in the same league as Ysarex's preferred software Capture One, or Lightroom, PhotoLab and the other top tier raw processors. I do my raw processing in PhotoLab 4 Elite and export the edits to 16 bit TIFF files if they need further work in Affinity's Photo persona. More often than not I can accomplish all I want to do in PhotoLab alone.

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Mar 11, 2021 14:29:34   #
buckbrush Loc: Texas then Southwest Oregon
 
[quote=Naptown Gaijin]
Ysarex wrote:
I started teaching it in 1992. I've rarely had to pay for it as my employer picked up that tab. The CC account and apps I just deleted were payed for by the college where I teach/taught.

"Payed"? Glad you taught photography and not English. :-)


One of these days you're going to get bit by 'spell check' and then who will look foolish then?

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Mar 11, 2021 15:05:06   #
bonjac Loc: Santa Ynez, CA 93460
 
StanMac wrote:
This is another example of the strange idioms of the English language and its spelling. Ysarex is actually correct, but the archaic form is not a fixture in our language today. Somewhere, sometime an English scholar decided that the past participle of the simple word "payed" had to be different for some reason. From a Google search on the forms of the word "pay" at wordhippo.com:

"The past tense of pay is paid or payed (archaic). The third-person singular simple present indicative form of pay is pays. The present participle of pay is paying. The past participle of pay is paid or payed (archaic)."

Some of you UHHers who are English scholars may chime in if you like.

Stan
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I am no scholar but in my youth (long, long, ago) we were taught to use payed when we wer giving money to someone for a product or service. On the other hand, the recipient of our money would say he had been paid. At least that is what I think I remember.

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Mar 11, 2021 15:47:48   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Back in the good old days of the analog /chemical darkroom, advanced amateurs and professionals spent large sums of money, over the years, for darkroom gear- enlargers, processing tanks and trays, temperature control devices, lenses, easels. dodging and burning tools, texture screens, dryers and racks, and endless supplies- chemistry, toners, fixers, replenishers, and lots more. A colour lab= $$$$$$!

Storage- if you were into regular or archival storage, remember all those supplies, sleeves, envelopes, print boxes, fire insurance (y'all should see my storeroom)!?

So, I can't see why so many photographers complain about software and storage subscriptions. You could just keep purchasing additional hard drives and store everything in-house.

There is no "free lunch"- you got to invest in the gear, space, and supplies. Nowadays, in digital, it's relatively inexpensive. With some decent software and a few plugins, you're getting away cheap!

Obviously, if any service no longer addresses your purposes, it is wise to remove it as long as it doesn't put your images at risk of loss!

Perhaps I can't relate to retirement. At 77 I still work in photography full-time- my lovely wife thinks I am insane, nonetheless, she still runs the office!

I always refer to General McArthur's "retirement" speech about "old soldiers", I just plagiarized and altered it slightly. Old photographers never retire (die) they just fade away, that is of course if they are not are archivally processed.

Even when I can't work anymore, I will still shoot, process and store my images. The camera goes in the box with me- if it won't fit, at least, they can squeeze in the smartphone!

Congrats on the retirement but somehow I believe you will continue shooting and teaching!

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Mar 11, 2021 17:21:00   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Congrats on the retirement but somehow I believe you will continue shooting and teaching!


I'll definitely keep shooting. As for Adobe I'm not saying bye because of the expensive. It's just no longer personally useful if I don't have to teach it. I wasn't paying for it in the first place.

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Mar 11, 2021 17:55:28   #
hrblaine
 
Ysarex wrote:


But that's the rub. I stopped teaching because of the pandemic.


I wanted to retire at age 56 but I didn't think that the amount I'd get would support my lifestyle so I worked two more years and got a fair sized bump, passing the 25 year mark. In my retirement system, life in retirement averages 13 years. I'll be 90 next month so 32 years. Ouch! A few guys are going to last 10 years or less to make up for me. Harry

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Mar 11, 2021 19:47:01   #
teammt
 
LR and PS only cost 10 bucks a month. Drink less coffee.

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Mar 11, 2021 19:51:22   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
teammt wrote:
LR and PS only cost 10 bucks a month. Drink less coffee.


For me LR and PS cost nothing. I'm not saying bye because of price. I use more expensive software.

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Mar 11, 2021 20:35:31   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
bonjac wrote:
I am no scholar but in my youth (long, long, ago) we were taught to use payed when we wer giving money to someone for a product or service. On the other hand, the recipient of our money would say he had been paid. At least that is what I think I remember.


That makes sense.

Stan

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Mar 11, 2021 21:22:32   #
rlynes Loc: Wisconsin
 
My old CS6 Photoshop works just fine (using DNG converter for the new RAW imaging files), along with my LR 6.14 (that can send PSD files to PS). Don't have the latest and greatest bleeding edge camera system formats so it all works just fine.

No cash outlay for several years. May have to do something if the mirror-less GAS Attaaaack finely catches up to me, though.

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Mar 12, 2021 09:02:56   #
rhudston Loc: Nova Scotia
 
A question, if I could. I am just starting with Capture One. There are times I want to remove something from a photo - e.g. a sticker on a window behind the subject - and I find the clone stamp in PhotoShop easier to use and more accurate than the healing clone in Capture One. Like you, I would like to declutter, but I'm reluctant to let go of the clone stamp. Any suggestions?

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