The Sound of Violence (Page 5): "Attorney Al Watkins said his client Jacob Chansley, 33, was acting on Trump’s invitation when he and others forced their way into the Capitol on Jan.

BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky

slocumeddie wrote:

Why do you lie.....???

"Attorney Al Watkins said his client Jacob Chansley, 33, was acting on Trump’s invitation when he and others forced their way into the Capitol on Jan. 6, as Congress began formally counting the Electoral College votes to certify President-elect Joe Biden’s win.

"The words and invitation of a president are supposed to mean something," Watkins said in a statement to the Kansas City Star."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/qanon-shaman-capitol-rioter-wants-pardon-from-president-trump

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

BigWahoo wrote:

You don't seem to have a problem with who Trump ha acquitted that gets them off scott-free! some real scum bags.

It seems you have some double standards working here.

Pay attention my friend. Those double standards as you call them are quite evident on the Left just as you say they are on the Right.

Were you happy when your esteemed leader, Barack Obama pardoned 1000 drug dealers from prison? This, in a time when 65,000 Americans died of drug abuse. Imagine, 65,000 people dead of drugs and Obama sets free 1000 drug dealers. Now there is a couple of cute numbers for you. Did you approve of him doing that? I think you and millions of your Left Wing brothers and sisters must have approved because I saw nothing negative from you here in The Attic. Do you think Conservatives approved of the release of many Muslim terrorists from Guantanamo Bay. I sure as hell did not nor did anybody in my Conservative circle. Yet you on the Left did. Ever wonder why there were so many Muslim terrorists in America killing Americans while Obama was President? There were no Muslim terrorist attacks in America under President Trump. There was also no ISIS terrorizing the Middle East under President Trump either. Fancy that, huh?

Take a look at the numbers:

As he enters the home stretch of his White House tenure, Donald Trump has used his clemency power less often than any president in modern history, according to data from the U.S. Department of Justice. Trump’s sparse use of pardons, commutations and other forms of official leniency stands in sharp contrast to his predecessor, Barack Obama, who used the clemency power more frequently than any chief executive since Harry Truman.

As of Nov. 23, Trump had granted clemency 44 times, including 28 pardons and 16 commutations. That’s the lowest total of any president since at least William McKinley, who served at the turn of the 20th century. Obama, by comparison, granted clemency 1,927 times during his eight-year tenure, including 212 pardons and 1,715 commutations. The only modern president who granted clemency almost as infrequently as Trump is George H.W. Bush, who granted 77 pardons and commutations in his single term.

I will try to post the exact link if I can. I am somewhat computer illiterate when it comes to posting links, some work and some do not. But I copied and pasted the above. I don't think there is any question of who gave. the most pardons and it sure was not Trump.

https://www.pewresearch.org/donald-trumpalice-johnson/

Dennis

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

slocumeddie wrote:

Why do you lie.....???

He keeps telling Big Wahoos. It is all in his name.

slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again

Kraken wrote:

So I guess you want to go the same way as LWW eh?

Good, keep it up.

Why do you troll.....???

National Park

dennis2146 wrote:

Pay attention my friend. Those double standards as you call them are quite evident on the Left just as you say they are on the Right.

Were you happy when your esteemed leader, Barack Obama pardoned 1000 drug dealers from prison? This, in a time when 65,000 Americans died of drug abuse. Imagine, 65,000 people dead of drugs and Obama sets free 1000 drug dealers. Now there is a couple of cute numbers for you. Did you approve of him doing that? I think you and millions of your Left Wing brothers and sisters must have approved because I saw nothing negative from you here in The Attic. Do you think Conservatives approved of the release of many Muslim terrorists from Guantanamo Bay. I sure as hell did not nor did anybody in my Conservative circle. Yet you on the Left did. Ever wonder why there were so many Muslim terrorists in America killing Americans while Obama was President? There were no Muslim terrorist attacks in America under President Trump. There was also no ISIS terrorizing the Middle East under President Trump either. Fancy that, huh?

Take a look at the numbers:

As he enters the home stretch of his White House tenure, Donald Trump has used his clemency power less often than any president in modern history, according to data from the U.S. Department of Justice. Trump’s sparse use of pardons, commutations and other forms of official leniency stands in sharp contrast to his predecessor, Barack Obama, who used the clemency power more frequently than any chief executive since Harry Truman.

As of Nov. 23, Trump had granted clemency 44 times, including 28 pardons and 16 commutations. That’s the lowest total of any president since at least William McKinley, who served at the turn of the 20th century. Obama, by comparison, granted clemency 1,927 times during his eight-year tenure, including 212 pardons and 1,715 commutations. The only modern president who granted clemency almost as infrequently as Trump is George H.W. Bush, who granted 77 pardons and commutations in his single term.

I will try to post the exact link if I can. I am somewhat computer illiterate when it comes to posting links, some work and some do not. But I copied and pasted the above. I don't think there is any question of who gave. the most pardons and it sure was not Trump.

https://www.pewresearch.org/donald-trumpalice-johnson/

Dennis

Pay attention my friend. Those double standards a... (show quote)

Always want to change the subject away from the crazies who took over the Capitol building in a mob bent on insurrection. How sad.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

National Park wrote:

Always want to change the subject away from the crazies who took over the Capitol building in a mob bent on insurrection. How sad.

Change the subject??? I am already on here several times saying those people should be tried and if guilty be put in jail or prison, which ever is the most appropriate depending upon if the crime is a felony or misdemeanor. Why can't you pay attention? Is it too much for your brain to register? Are you to the point of even failing to listen just because it is other than a corrupt Left Winger speaking? Seems like it.

But my question to you is where were you when those protestors all through 2020 were being arrested and then released without bail or their bail was contributed to by the likes of Hollywood stars and Kamala Harris. Imagine supposedly law and order people on the Left (honestly I doubt there are any, not even one) contributing bail money to people who have attempted to burn down Seattle, Portland and many other big cities across America. Imagine bail money for people who have murdered police officers. Yet there it is...

So where was your disdain THEN. Where was your whining and bitching about THOSE protestors? Fact is you are only interested in law and order for Conservatives and don't give a damn about what happens on your side of the aisle.

One more thing you completely screwed up on. It was Big Wahoo who offered the subject of Double Standards, not me. My post was completely on track with his post. Seems as if you would do better watching reruns of Sesame Street. You don't seem able to pay attention to the real world. You and Big Wahoo or Big Bird as he is probably called need to keep up with the adult conversations here.

Dennis

InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA

berchman wrote:

Speaking only for myself I don't want to bring America together. I would like all the red states to secede. They get a lot more money from the federal government than they contribute.

There are many ways to look at this claim and these numbers are switching rapidly as people and jobs escape the high tax states of the Northeast and West Coast.

Many of the bluest states are financially insolvent.

https://www.alec.org/app/uploads/2019/03/Unaccountable-and-Unaffordable-WEB.pdf

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/502321-no-blue-states-do-not-bailout-red-states

National Park

dennis2146 wrote:

Change the subject??? I am already on here severa... (show quote)

Changing the subject still again.

mwalsh Loc: Houston

Kraken wrote:

So I guess you want to go the same way as LWW eh?

Good, keep it up.

Prolly is LWW...always has been?

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

National Park wrote:

Changing the subject still again.

You are a fool my friend. You are like the old RCA Victor dog who sits listening but who can't ever do anything about it.

OK I will bite. Explain to us how I am changing the subject again. You said that the last time and are still licking your wounds OR you did not read my reply. You lost that one big time and you are losing this one too. But seriously, tell us in detail how I am changing he subject.

Oh wait...I know. You don't want to waste time blah blah blah.

Dennis

mwalsh Loc: Houston

slocumeddie wrote:

Why do you troll.....???

LoL

Such irony! It's almost velvety it drips so from you!

Keep posting!