Nikon to end camera production in Japan
Dec 20, 2020 17:14:04 #
Dec 20, 2020 17:33:59 #
Longshadow wrote:
Evidently...
Can't shoot Nikon.
(Probably going to be made in China.)
Can't shoot Nikon.
(Probably going to be made in China.)
Or an unpublcized joint venture with Olympus in Vietnam. In sink-or-swim situations the ”buddy system” rules.
They can lean on each other, so they don’t both fall down. Otherwise “The Abyss” looms for each separately.
Dec 20, 2020 17:48:36 #
Gene51 wrote:
Nikon's been making bodies in Thailand for years. ... (show quote)
I agree with Gene. As long as specs are the same it make no difference where they are made. Not a one of my Nikon products that I own were made in Japan but perform as advertised.
Dec 20, 2020 18:39:24 #
DavidPine
Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
CHG_CANON wrote:
And so it begins, the beginning of the end ...
When Nikon makes a mirrorless as good as or better than the D850 and D6 they will probably flood the market. The Z series is doing well and I wouldn't count them out. Canon users love to gig Nikon users. I have two Canon cameras gathering dust.
Dec 20, 2020 18:49:20 #
DavidPine wrote:
When Nikon makes a mirrorless as good as or better than the D850 and D6 they will probably flood the market. The Z series is doing well and I wouldn't count them out. Canon users love to gig Nikon users. I have two Canon cameras gathering dust.
How does that yarn go about "ifs and buts"?
Dec 20, 2020 19:02:41 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
How does that yarn go about "ifs and buts"?
Confirmation, though none is needed based on your content, of my original remark. It is also called Crepe Hanging.
Dec 20, 2020 19:05:26 #
Dec 20, 2020 19:11:20 #
No emnity, not worth it. I will say, you do an excellent job at deterring purchases of Canon Cameras, even though I had several that were very good till they failed. BTW, even my oldest film Nikon still works.
Dec 20, 2020 19:12:57 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you want to make enemies, say something true about Nikon.
I hate Canon and love Nikon but I don't think you're the enemy. I guess I won't be buying any new Nikon.
Dec 20, 2020 19:14:01 #
wdross
Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
DavidPine wrote:
When Nikon makes a mirrorless as good as or better than the D850 and D6 they will probably flood the market. The Z series is doing well and I wouldn't count them out. Canon users love to gig Nikon users. I have two Canon cameras gathering dust.
Unfortunately, there will be no "flooding the market" by anyone, not even Sony. Smartphones, and the people not willing to buy a camera better than what is in their smartphones, will make sure of that.
Dec 20, 2020 19:14:18 #
Gene said it's just a normal course of business and nothing to worry about.
Dec 20, 2020 19:19:41 #
wdross wrote:
Unfortunately, there will be no "flooding the market" by anyone, not even Sony. Smartphones, and the people not willing to buy a camera better than what is in their smartphones, will make sure of that.
This is the key point. Interchangeable-lens cameras are a luxury item, in no way necessary for 'serious' photography. If you have a choice between only a $1000 smartphone and $1000 camera (no lens), what's the obvious and only choice to be made?
There will remain a place for high-end equipment, especially for specialized needs like sports, red carpets, and similar. How many vendors will be needed? Probably less than exist in December 2020.
Dec 20, 2020 20:03:12 #
When I start out in photography, as a kid, there were many dozens of camera companies manufacturing in the United States. Japanese made equipment was considered "junk"! German stuff was tops! Notice any changes?
I even remember when Leitz opened a plant In Mainland, Ontario Canada. They chose that town because it had similar weather conditions to Wetzlar. They sent a nice bunch of German folks to staff the factory- Nowadays Leica gear marked Leitz-Midland are collector's items- They made good stuff but that factory is gone.
I'm certain that many time-honoured camera and lens makers are outsourcing much of all of their manufacturing to China and other countries in Asia.
I am no expert in camera and lens manufacturing technology, but I suspect that the "old school" craftsmanship that went into mechanical film cameras is quickly becoming a thing of the past and electronic circuitry can be assembled as to specifications anywhere with modern mass-production and assembly techniques.
I don't think folks buy a camera and expect to hand it down to their grandchildren anymore. Last week I looked at the latest Leica digital at my dealer's shop. It's nice and bloody expensive but in terms of mechanical integrity and what I perceive as fine machining- it doesn't hold a candle to my old M-3. and probably will not last as long.
Geopolitically speaking, I would rather buy into a system that is made in a FRIENDLY country, but practically speaking, if I were well invested in the Nikon system, I would not change brands now. I don't believe that the quality of Nikon gear will suddenly deteriorate as a result of their decision- if it is true and not a rumour, but only time will tell. If there's a decline in the quality of their product or their quality control, they will lose out in the end.
Many years ago, when I transitioned to digital, I went with Canon for a number of reasons but I had used Nikon gear in the past and found it extremely fine. If for some reason I had to switch or change things up, I'm sure I could adapt easily. I don't really "HATE" any brand- to me it's strictly a matter of finding the right modes for the work at hand.
Photographic gear aside, just go into any retail store- appliances, clothing, electronics, kitchen gadgets, and tell me what ain't made in China! I would love to buy some of the stuff made in Europe and Japan and domestically, but I can't afford it!
I even remember when Leitz opened a plant In Mainland, Ontario Canada. They chose that town because it had similar weather conditions to Wetzlar. They sent a nice bunch of German folks to staff the factory- Nowadays Leica gear marked Leitz-Midland are collector's items- They made good stuff but that factory is gone.
I'm certain that many time-honoured camera and lens makers are outsourcing much of all of their manufacturing to China and other countries in Asia.
I am no expert in camera and lens manufacturing technology, but I suspect that the "old school" craftsmanship that went into mechanical film cameras is quickly becoming a thing of the past and electronic circuitry can be assembled as to specifications anywhere with modern mass-production and assembly techniques.
I don't think folks buy a camera and expect to hand it down to their grandchildren anymore. Last week I looked at the latest Leica digital at my dealer's shop. It's nice and bloody expensive but in terms of mechanical integrity and what I perceive as fine machining- it doesn't hold a candle to my old M-3. and probably will not last as long.
Geopolitically speaking, I would rather buy into a system that is made in a FRIENDLY country, but practically speaking, if I were well invested in the Nikon system, I would not change brands now. I don't believe that the quality of Nikon gear will suddenly deteriorate as a result of their decision- if it is true and not a rumour, but only time will tell. If there's a decline in the quality of their product or their quality control, they will lose out in the end.
Many years ago, when I transitioned to digital, I went with Canon for a number of reasons but I had used Nikon gear in the past and found it extremely fine. If for some reason I had to switch or change things up, I'm sure I could adapt easily. I don't really "HATE" any brand- to me it's strictly a matter of finding the right modes for the work at hand.
Photographic gear aside, just go into any retail store- appliances, clothing, electronics, kitchen gadgets, and tell me what ain't made in China! I would love to buy some of the stuff made in Europe and Japan and domestically, but I can't afford it!
Dec 20, 2020 20:09:19 #
Dec 20, 2020 20:13:05 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
And so it begins, the beginning of the end ...
Olympus, Nikon...who is next.
Suspect only two will remain in the coming years.
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