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May 16, 2020 13:47:59   #
dick ranez
 
The camera business is going to move at a very rapid pace once this virus thing is resolved (or tamed). I wouldn't buy anything for at least several months. Whether you're a candidate for the rumored R5 or R6 remains to be seen, but the introduction of one or both of them will have a big impact on the used market.

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May 16, 2020 16:04:19   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
bejamin wrote:
Thanks to all of you for the replies, esp (CHG CANON.) You are correct the 70d is advanced. Maybe i will just keep my hands in my pockets! Thanks all of you..... Please stay safe!


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May 16, 2020 16:16:31   #
hj Loc: Florida
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Your 70D is a cutting-edge, professional-grade DSLR featuring a 20MP sensor. You can buy another camera to spend money, but there won't be any real difference, even in moving to a full frame camera.

What do you envision happening with a newer camera? Do you have series II (or III) EF lenses that sharply focus in image circle onto a still-higher megapixel sensor? Are you capturing your images in RAW and processing with professional-grade software? Do you have a speedlight flash? Do you have a quality tripod? My point is to try to redirect an urge for a new body onto areas that are more likely to yield improved results with your current body.

It's your money. It's your decision. It you let the UHH community spend your money, nothing you have will ever be good enough to their standards.
Your 70D is a cutting-edge, professional-grade DSL... (show quote)


CHG_CANON, I always admire your posts and advice to others. Most sensible on the forum.

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May 16, 2020 16:44:07   #
ltj123 Loc: NW Wisconsin
 
Love my 6d2, have had it over 2 years now. I went from a 7d2 which was a really good camera but the 6d2 does more of what I want easier for me. Landscape and portrait photography mainly...

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May 16, 2020 19:15:23   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
bejamin wrote:
May I have an opinion please. I have a Canon 70d and all of the lenses that I have for the camera are EF lenses. AS prices have been moving quite a bit, I have seen the 90d for the same as the 6D mkII. I am mainly a landscape and family amateur shooter. If I were to purchase an upgrade which would you suggest.


The 80D .....if budget is a concern and you just have GAS, .......otherwise, 6dII or RP. You do not need 10 fps or 30 MP really for landscape - but you do need good glass and technique ! Are you doing serious 20X24 or larger prints ? then full frame.
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May 16, 2020 19:24:38   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
PHRubin wrote:
I have the 80D and can say I have absolutely NO urge to upgrade.



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May 16, 2020 20:04:08   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Your 70D is a cutting-edge, professional-grade DSLR featuring a 20MP sensor. You can buy another camera to spend money, but there won't be any real difference, even in moving to a full frame camera.

What do you envision happening with a newer camera? Do you have series II (or III) EF lenses that sharply focus in image circle onto a still-higher megapixel sensor? Are you capturing your images in RAW and processing with professional-grade software? Do you have a speedlight flash? Do you have a quality tripod? My point is to try to redirect an urge for a new body onto areas that are more likely to yield improved results with your current body.

It's your money. It's your decision. It you let the UHH community spend your money, nothing you have will ever be good enough to their standards.
Your 70D is a cutting-edge, professional-grade DSL... (show quote)


But the grass will be greener with a mirrorless camera.

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May 16, 2020 23:20:27   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
The Canon 6D Mark II is a full frame camera. I own and use this camera with great results.
bejamin wrote:
May I have an opinion please. I have a Canon 70d and all of the lenses that I have for the camera are EF lenses. AS prices have been moving quite a bit, I have seen the 90d for the same as the 6D mkII. I am mainly a landscape and family amateur shooter. If I were to purchase an upgrade which would you suggest.

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May 17, 2020 09:05:35   #
hrblaine
 
PHRubin wrote:
I have the 80D and can say I have absolutely NO urge to upgrade.


LOL I have a 5Dc and I have no urge to upgrade. Different strokes for different folks! Harry

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May 17, 2020 12:42:37   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
bejamin wrote:
May I have an opinion please. I have a Canon 70d and all of the lenses that I have for the camera are EF lenses. AS prices have been moving quite a bit, I have seen the 90d for the same as the 6D mkII. I am mainly a landscape and family amateur shooter. If I were to purchase an upgrade which would you suggest.


There are a lot of reviews of the 90D that suggest it might be your best choice. With 32.5MP, the APS-C 90D has has got higher resolution than full frame 6D Mark II (26MP) or 5D Mark IV (30M)... as well as the mirrorless EOS RP (26MP) and EOS R (30MP). In fact, the only Canon DLSR or mirrorless with more resolution right now is the 5DS or 5DS-R (both 50MP). We don't yet know for certain because Canon hasn't officially released any info, but the up-coming EOS R5 is rumored or expected to be around 45MP.

Landscape shooters appreciate full frame cameras for two primary reasons: higher resolution with greater fine detail for really big enlargements and full frame lets wide angle lenses be truly wide. Full frame also can produce higher ISO images with less digital noise, though that's usually not a major concern for landscape photography.

If you make really big prints and/or ever feel "constrained" with your wide angle lens choices, now might be the time to jump to full frame. A 30MP 5DIV would probably be your best choice, as of right now. The "ultimate" Canon for landscape photography is the 5DS-R (50MP), but it's pricey at $3700. It also has limited high ISO (native range 100-6400, expands to 50 and 12800... compare to 5DIV and 6DII with native ranges 100-32000 and 100-40000, respectively, both of which expand to 50 and 102400).

But if you don't print big (larger than around 16x24") and you are happy with your current wide angle options, you could save a ton of money upgrading to the 90D instead of 5DIV. In fact, at $1200 it's less than half the price of the current cost of a 5DIV.

In fact, even if you aren't happy with your current wide angle options on 70D, with the $1300 saved buying a 90D instead of a 5DIV, you could add an excellent EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM (currently on sale for $549, plus $30 for the separately sold EW-83E lens hood.. $580). A cheaper, slower (smaller max apertures) and less well built... but compact, light weight, image stabilized and quite capable of making excellent images... EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM ($279 + $25 EW-73C lens hood: $305.)

You've probably been avoiding buying crop-only EF-S lenses, in anticipation of eventually "upgrading" to full frame. But that would be overkill for most family photo situations. And the image quality possible with APS-C cameras and EF-S lenses just keeps getting better and better.

Yes, as you've noted, 6DII (26MP) is currently on sale... In fact, it's heavily discounted to the same $1200 price as the 90D! That's 25% off the regular "street price". Makes me wonder if there's a replacement model coming soon and Canon is "clearing the shelves". Or maybe it's just that the $1000 EOS RP mirrorless, with the same 26MP sensor... and/or the 90D with more resolution... are undercutting 6DII sales. (There isn't a similar sale price on 5DIV.)

It's also possible to "leverage" an APS-C camera for more by taking multiple shots and combining them to make a panorama, if you plan a really large print of a landscape scene. Fine detail, resolution and overall image quality can rival that of a full frame camera.

The only place that full frame still has an advantage is low light shooting. The larger and less crowded sensors allow one to two stop higher ISO to be used before digital noise becomes a problem in images.

Any of the cameras mentioned would be solid upgrades from your 20MP 70D. They all have higher performance AF systems, too (which work best when combined with lenses that also feature a high performance AF system... such as Canon's USM).

EDIT: DSLR versus mirrorless... there are advantages and disadvantages to both. Before switching, I'd look into those very carefully. It's much the same a full frame versus APS-C.

"Good glass" will almost always make for greater image improvement than "upgrading" cameras will. You don't mention what specific lenses you have. Only that they are all EF (hence, no problem if you switch to full frame). Maybe you've already got great lenses to use on your current or future camera.... Or maybe you don't and would actually see more benefit with some lens upgrades.

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May 17, 2020 15:41:36   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
amfoto1 wrote:
...Landscape shooters appreciate full frame cameras for ... higher resolution with greater fine detail for really big enlargements ...


I've always questioned this. I believe the pixel count determines resolution until lens aberation messes it up. That would make the 90D better than the 5DIV.

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May 18, 2020 15:43:39   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
bejamin wrote:
May I have an opinion please. I have a Canon 70d and all of the lenses that I have for the camera are EF lenses. AS prices have been moving quite a bit, I have seen the 90d for the same as the 6D mkII. I am mainly a landscape and family amateur shooter. If I were to purchase an upgrade which would you suggest.


From the way you describe your photography, the need to upgrade to FF is questionable. There is never a shortage of members who are anxious to spend your money. I urge you to honestly consider what your current camera does not do that you need. If the answer is "nothing," save your money. >Alan

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