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Apr 27, 2020 18:20:11   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
rck281 wrote:
I agree with you. The only difference is that a backup program can create backups on what ever schedule you set and they are retained at what ever interval you choose. But yes, every backup of a defective drive or virus infected drive will duplicate that condition.


Your "difference" is exactly what I said. Give up the argument, please.

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Apr 27, 2020 18:22:35   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
nadelewitz wrote:
So what's the difference? Short-time backup, long-term backup (archiving), it's still a backup.


The difference is in the last line:
"It's probably OK to back things up on media that may not be safe for long term storage. However, safety requires multiple copies in either case."

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Apr 27, 2020 18:24:08   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
The difference is in the last line:
"It's probably OK to back things up on media that may not be safe for long term storage. However, safety requires multiple copies in either case."


That's not MY line. You're talking to someone else.

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Apr 27, 2020 18:27:42   #
CameraLady56
 
You might want to check your flash drives closely. Many of them are spoofed and won't save all of your info.
see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kix3JKn08OU&feature=youtu.be

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Apr 27, 2020 18:29:13   #
rck281 Loc: Overland Park, KS
 
I give up.

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Apr 27, 2020 18:32:39   #
rck281 Loc: Overland Park, KS
 
nadelewitz wrote:
Your "difference" is exactly what I said. Give up the argument, please.


I give up. You have outlasted me and, I suspect everyone else. I don't have any more time to waste today.

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Apr 27, 2020 18:50:45   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
rck281 wrote:
I give up. You have outlasted me and, I suspect everyone else. I don't have any more time to waste today.


I guess knowledge and common sense win out. Bye.

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Apr 27, 2020 19:03:02   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
nadelewitz wrote:
A sync program is just a way of automating doing a backup. Any of those backup programs will backup a defective drive as nicely as a good drive.


I use a program called freefilesync and have for several years. Great for backups of only files that have changed.

Dik

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Apr 27, 2020 19:06:16   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
Dikdik wrote:
I use a program called freefilesync and have for several years. Great for backups of only files that have changed.

Dik


So do I. Sync programs MAINTAIN a backup by adding new files, updating changed files and deleting files on the backup.

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Apr 27, 2020 19:21:19   #
CameraLady56
 
I use BackBlaze. About $5 a month. Recommended by Scott Kelby and I few pros I know.

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Apr 27, 2020 20:44:22   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
nadelewitz wrote:
At the risk of opening a can of worms again on UHH.....

RAID is not backup. Mirror drives are not the same as making copies of a drive.

Reasons:
1. A RAID drive is most commonly NOT readable outside its RAID array. The RAID controller typically creates proprietary-format drives that are only readable in the RAID array they were
created by. There ARE exceptions to this, but you cannot know unless you take a drive from your RAID array and connect it via USB to a computer and (try to) read it. Please don't argue with ME. A little cursory research on the Web will find many discussions of this. I thought RAID mirroring was the way to go with my NAS, until I had to read one of the mirrors separately and could not, in Windows, Linux, Mac operating systems. The drive was NOT a recognizable format.

2. If there is a drive error (it's starting to fail for example), accidental/mistaken deletion, a virus or other data-related issue, the effects/problems are instantly replicated to the second (third, fourth...) drive instantly. So you have defective mirrors. Not exactly what you want, is it?

BACKING UP means making a copy of a drive's contents onto another drive with a sync program, or manually. This way, you decide when to do the backing-up, knowing FIRST that the data drive is good.

What you are doing is NOT protecting your critical data.
At the risk of opening a can of worms again on UHH... (show quote)


In my opinion you are only partially correct. if the RAID controller is in the raid, then that raid can be moved from computer to computer. If the raid is set up as redundant or backup then the drive can be moved to another computer and read. This would be a raid 1. Each disc is a mirror of the first one in a raid 1.this is done but writing to all disk at the same time with the same data.

In a RAID 0 the data is split up between all the disks and is used for faster reads and wrights, no mirroring is done. If one drive fails you lose some of your data. but if you have a raid array of four drives that equals say one terabyte you can back that raid up to another drive with software, then you haven't read for fast read write and a backup.

As far as backing up goes you're correct. When you backup or copy a disc to another one you copy the viruses and everything, thus the need for continuous virus protection on the system.

At least that's the way I understand it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels#RAID_1

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Apr 27, 2020 22:23:04   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
SCAM

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Apr 27, 2020 22:39:56   #
Silverrails
 
pmorin wrote:
I had looked into that option at one time and decided to do some checking. You may want to take a look at this video.
https://youtu.be/Kix3JKn08OU


Thanks for your RESEARCH.

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Apr 27, 2020 23:02:11   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Bridges wrote:
Did anyone else see the ad and purchase the 2 TB thumb drive that was advertised recently? I bought these -- these were advertised buy one, get one free. I couldn't believe a 2 TB thumb drive! So they came in the mail yesterday -- two of them for 39.95. I plugged one in to see if it even booted up, and to my surprise it did. Now with almost 4 TB of storage space I can back up virtually all my photos on a drive that doesn't have a spinning disc and won't be apt to crash. If they are still available I may order two more!
Did anyone else see the ad and purchase the 2 TB t... (show quote)

I would suspect it is a hacked 16, 32 or maybe a 64GB flash drive. It is physically impossible to get 2 TB on a flash drive with today's tech for the price mentioned!

bwa

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Apr 27, 2020 23:14:10   #
bigd7200
 
If you want small and portable, but not cheap consider the Indiegogo Bullett. 1TB $119, 2 TB $198.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/bullet-ssd-tiny-high-speed-drive?utm_content=campaigns_one_column1_hero_image&utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=bck-03032020news&gs_variant=control#/

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