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Apr 27, 2020 15:58:21   #
rochephoto
 
They are indeed the same thing. They are both have flash memory and they both are about the size of a thumb. There is no real compression in either case.

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Apr 27, 2020 15:59:30   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
coolhanduke wrote:
But then who am I?


You're correct...

Dik

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Apr 27, 2020 16:05:52   #
GEngel-usmc Loc: Spencerport NY - I miss Lakeland, FL
 
SanDisk Go usb-c 512gb, runs at $79.99 at Western Digital site.

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Apr 27, 2020 16:08:09   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
The ASUS M.2 enclosure I mentioned is likely more reliable and also faster... but likely pricier. A 2TB M.2 drive is expensive.

Dik

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Apr 27, 2020 17:05:35   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Bridges wrote:
Did anyone else see the ad and purchase the 2 TB thumb drive that was advertised recently? I bought these -- these were advertised buy one, get one free. I couldn't believe a 2 TB thumb drive! So they came in the mail yesterday -- two of them for 39.95. I plugged one in to see if it even booted up, and to my surprise it did. Now with almost 4 TB of storage space I can back up virtually all my photos on a drive that doesn't have a spinning disc and won't be apt to crash. If they are still available I may order two more!
Did anyone else see the ad and purchase the 2 TB t... (show quote)


A thumb drive is not for back-up, that's a bad idea!

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Apr 27, 2020 17:14:14   #
Myne
 
Thanks for sharing..very interesting...Not sure I would have tried one...I just go to Best Buy & buy another external hard drive...I’ve found even the external ones..don’t do well if filled to full..not sure why since I’m not a tech person. But it seems they need space left unused.

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Apr 27, 2020 17:25:55   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
hj wrote:
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I have always understood that the terms flash drive and thumb drives are the same. Are you confusing terms or am I confused? Perhaps someone else will comment. If a flash drive is the same as a thumb drive per the definition shown, then 2 TB and up are NOT common. Most seem to be in the 16 gb to 64 gb range.


Flash drive and thumb drive are two names for the same thing. There are others.....USB stick is one.

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Apr 27, 2020 17:32:39   #
rck281 Loc: Overland Park, KS
 
Peterfiore wrote:
2TB flash and up are common, the original post was talking about thumb drives.


Flash drives and thumb drives are the same thing and they don't yet come in 2 TB size. Solid State Drives can be purchased in that size and are becoming more affordable.
Also, drives are not "bootable" unless they contain an operating. Maybe you mean the aren't "recognized".

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Apr 27, 2020 17:43:49   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
rochephoto wrote:
PS - I have all my critical data backed up on mirrored on duplicate LaCie Raid5 network storage devices. One is at my studio/business and 1 is at my house. I figure I can't more secure than that. I'd use the cloud but my files are too numerous and too large.


At the risk of opening a can of worms again on UHH.....

RAID is not backup. Mirror drives are not the same as making copies of a drive.

Reasons:
1. A RAID drive is most commonly NOT readable outside its RAID array. The RAID controller typically creates proprietary-format drives that are only readable in the RAID array they were
created by. There ARE exceptions to this, but you cannot know unless you take a drive from your RAID array and connect it via USB to a computer and (try to) read it. Please don't argue with ME. A little cursory research on the Web will find many discussions of this. I thought RAID mirroring was the way to go with my NAS, until I had to read one of the mirrors separately and could not, in Windows, Linux, Mac operating systems. The drive was NOT a recognizable format.

2. If there is a drive error (it's starting to fail for example), accidental/mistaken deletion, a virus or other data-related issue, the effects/problems are instantly replicated to the second (third, fourth...) drive instantly. So you have defective mirrors. Not exactly what you want, is it?

BACKING UP means making a copy of a drive's contents onto another drive with a sync program, or manually. This way, you decide when to do the backing-up, knowing FIRST that the data drive is good.

What you are doing is NOT protecting your critical data.

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Apr 27, 2020 17:48:29   #
FRENCHY Loc: Stone Mountain , Ga
 
Bridges wrote:
Ok, testing done, I'm out of here with these things. Earlier I had tried to download 811gb. to see if it would hold it. The needle was hardly moving and said it was downloading 5.26 mb per sec. At that rate it would have taken 9+ days to move the materials! I usually back up a full TB hard drive in less than 24 hours. I cancelled that download and wanted to see what it would do with a single file in which I had around 54 gb. of photos. I would have expected around 30 min. but it said it would take over 4 hours! I don't care how much capacity these sticks have, they are s_l_o_w! I hope I paid by Pay Pal because I'm going to try to get a refund on these.
Ok, testing done, I'm out of here with these thing... (show quote)


I had a gift for my nephew coming from China cost me 54$ it was a POS , trying to get a refund true PayPal, the seller told me they give me 20$ or to send it back to China, well UPS ask me 275$ to do it. guess what? when I get a new BB gun for the kid we will have fun destroying that POS from China. I guess Corona Virus is the only thing that last more then the other crap made in China

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Apr 27, 2020 17:53:48   #
rck281 Loc: Overland Park, KS
 
BACKING UP means making a copy of a drive's contents onto another drive with a sync program, ....[/quote]
I agreed with everything you said until recommending a sync program for backup. A sync program will replicate a virus, accidental erasure, etc to the targeted drive. A proper backup is done with a backup program such as the Windows 7 built into Windows 10, Acronis, EaseUS To Do Backup, etc. These allow you to keep multiple backups and an image of a drive.

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Apr 27, 2020 18:04:13   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
rck281 wrote:
BACKING UP means making a copy of a drive's contents onto another drive with a sync program, ....

I agreed with everything you said until recommending a sync program for backup. A sync program will replicate a virus, accidental erasure, etc to the targeted drive. A proper backup is done with a backup program such as the Windows 7 built into Windows 10, Acronis, EaseUS To Do Backup, etc. These allow you to keep multiple backups and an image of a drive.[/quote]

A sync program is just a way of automating doing a backup. Any of those backup programs will backup a defective drive as nicely as a good drive.

Making an image of a drive that is defective will produce a defective new drive.

By "the Windows 7 built into Windows 10", I presume you mean using "Backup & Restore (Windows 7)" utility to create a system image. Same idea as using EaseUS, Acronis, Ghost, AOMEI Backup or others to create a restorable image.

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Apr 27, 2020 18:14:24   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
rck281 wrote:
BACKING UP means making a copy of a drive's contents onto another drive with a sync program, ....


IMHO there's a difference between backing up and archiving.

Backing up is making copies of files that you will be using again sometime soon.

Archiving is making copies of files that you don't think you will be using in the immediate future, but may well want to reuse them a little later than soon.

Backing up is for the short term. Archiving is for the long term.

It's probably OK to back things up on media that may not be safe for long term storage. However, safety requires multiple copies in either case.

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Apr 27, 2020 18:17:45   #
rck281 Loc: Overland Park, KS
 
nadelewitz wrote:
A sync program is just a way of automating doing a backup. Any of those backup programs will backup a defective drive as nicely as a good drive.

Making an image of a drive that is defective will produce a defective new drive.

By "the Windows 7 built into Windows 10", I presume you mean using "Backup & Restore (Windows 7)" utility to create a system image. Same idea as using EaseUS, Acronis, Ghost, AOMEI Backup or others to create a restorable image.


I agree with you. The only difference is that a backup program can create backups on what ever schedule you set and they are retained at what ever interval you choose. But yes, every backup of a defective drive or virus infected drive will duplicate that condition.

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Apr 27, 2020 18:18:45   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
IMHO there's a difference between backing up and archiving.

Backing up is making copies of files that you will be using again sometime soon.

Archiving is making copies of files that you don't think you will be using in the immediate future, but may well want to reuse them a little later than soon.

Backing up is for the short term. Archiving is for the long term.

It's probably OK to back things up on media that may not be safe for long term storage. However, safety requires multiple copies in either case.
IMHO there's a difference between backing up and a... (show quote)


So what's the difference? Short-time backup, long-term backup (archiving), it's still a backup.

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