Texas Lt. Gov says Old People Should Be Willing to Die for the Economy (Page 4): An "opinion" is just that. Not true, not false, just an opinion or belief.

sb Loc: Florida's East Coast

dennis2146 wrote:

You posted your opinion and it was a lie. You may not admit that but it is right there. The only reason you made the post was to cast a negative shadow on the Lt. Governor of Texas where there should be none. That is why I call you a LIAR. Perhaps calling you what you are, a Left Winger would have been more to the point and covered all bases.

Dennis

An "opinion" is just that. Not true, not false, just an opinion or belief.

wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma

Bazbo wrote:

We was NOT just speaking for himself. We was using... (show quote)

typical lying SPAZBO!!!!!

Rose42

mwalsh wrote:

All I did was raise some questions. I offered no ... (show quote)

And those questions should be asked. That doesn't mean anyone wants people to die - except for the depraved like RixPix. People don't think about what could happen down the road. Loss of food and basic services including sanitation which would mean more disease.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

dennis2146 wrote:

You are correct Amy with respect to your last sentence. The Left is full of ignorance of all types. Trust me-it shows every day.

Dennis

There are many really smart liberals and there are very smart conservatives, then there is you "I've never heard that".

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Drbobcameraguy wrote:

You are exactly correct. And I agree with him. There are a few people I would rather myself die than them. One because I love them and two because I've had a life they are just beginning. They deserve a shoot also. I think most sane and caring people feel the same.

How would what the lt. governor is suggesting do that?

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

btbg wrote:

You guys on the left are incredible. On the one ha... (show quote)

We could all go back to work, and by doing so cause the death of those you wish to save. We need a much smaller population, but that isn't the way.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

LWW wrote:

Leftists have a hard time understanding a selfless act.

A really stupid "selfless act" could hurt a lot more than it helped, if it helped at all.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

mwalsh wrote:

Patrick definitely did not say he would rather die... (show quote)

"What he said was that he is willing to take his chances with mortality rather than destroy the economy for his kids/grandkids.

However, it is a stretch to present that he said the elderly "should die" for the economy. He does seem to propose that the elderly should just accept the increased risk of death for the sake of the economy."

I think they are just different ways of saying the same thing, but it may be subject to interpretation.
I hope like hell we are over reacting, but I fear we are not. I'm not really qualified to judge that. I don't know your background, but I suspect you aren't qualified either.

Since you are from Texas, what are your feelings regards Patrick? I've never paid any attention to him so I have only this statement to go by.

John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN

His idea to thin out the elderly herd would reduce the drain on the Social Security Trust Fund. No.

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

John_F wrote:

His idea to thin out the elderly herd would reduce the drain on the Social Security Trust Fund. No.

I’m honesty surprised that took so long.

Wrangler Loc: North Texas

I can understand what he said. When I was younger, I was sent to combat. It was not a fun place.

Later in life I had a grandson. I thought back on my life and did not want my grandson to go to war. I hated my time in combat but would rather go myself than to send my grandson.

Fortunately, he never had to serve. That would have been more painful than my going. That is exactly what God had to do. He sent his only son to suffer and die for my sins.

Tex-s

Bazbo wrote:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/texas-dan-patrick-reaction-twitter-grandparents-coronavirus-die

Remember when Republicans were howling over the non-existent death panels in Obamacare?

Well, here we are. Rationalize this MAGA worshipers.

The quotes attributed to Dan Patrick on this one are inaccurate at best. Don't get me wrong, I consider Dan Patrick to be an idiot, and he deserves all the scorn available to give, but let's at least make it for things he's actually said and done. In this case, he managed to illustrate his lack of eloquence while making a valid point.

I have, on this site and others, made the observation that had we (the nation) been given more accurate information from China in the first place, we could have enacted a better plan. The plan I've espoused would have been only doing hard core sheltering those over age X and those with complicating health issues. That plan, along with only social distancing efforts could have allowed the economy to function WAY better than it is now, would have alleviated or prevented all the food and paper shortages, and would have likely helped with the medical shortages too.

All Dan Patrick was TRYING to say is that, at some point, unless we as a nation WANT a depression worse than the 30's, the nation will have to re-establish the work force beginning with the younger and healthier worker, while doing what we can to protect the older, less healthy population. He then rambled on about grandparents and grandchildren with an astonishing lack eloquence. He did suggest that he, and others he knows, would be willing to risk illness and potential death if it meant the grandchildren would not be left with a horribly broken economy.

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

Wrangler wrote:

I can understand what he said. When I was younger, I was sent to combat. It was not a fun place.

Later in life I had a grandson. I thought back on my life and did not want my grandson to go to war. I hated my time in combat but would rather go myself than to send my grandson.

Fortunately, he never had to serve. That would have been more painful than my going. That is exactly what God had to do. He sent his only son to suffer and die for my sins.

I can so relate to that.

The older I get, the more dovish I become.

It’s a much easier decision to step forward and say “I’ll go if needed” than to push someone else and make them go.

sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri

dennis2146 wrote:

You are a LIAR. I watched that interview and that is not what he said. He basically said he would prefer his grandchildren live than himself. Do you have grandchildren? Would you prefer that your life be taken instead of one of your grandchildren if you had that choice? I have three grandchildren. If given the choice of me living or my grandchildren living I would choose them all to live over me.

You have stooped to the LOWS represented by Krackhead.

Dennis

Dennis, that is not true. Krackhead is at the bottom and as such, nothing can be as low. As a man of science I have learned that no two forms of matter can occupy the same space at the same time, hence Krackhead is THE bottom. The good news however is that at least it may be the only thing in his life that he gets recognition for.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Wrangler wrote:

I can understand what he said. When I was younger, I was sent to combat. It was not a fun place.

Later in life I had a grandson. I thought back on my life and did not want my grandson to go to war. I hated my time in combat but would rather go myself than to send my grandson.

Fortunately, he never had to serve. That would have been more painful than my going. That is exactly what God had to do. He sent his only son to suffer and die for my sins.

Had you been able to do that, you would have been taking the risk instead of your grandson. You wouldn't have been putting thousands, or millions, of others at risk. I find that admirable. What the lt. governor suggested, not so much.