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Jan 25, 2020 16:50:49   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
rando wrote:
Perhaps you should also deal with aging issues that affect photo quality like vision issues and diopters, stabilizing tripods, remote control for shutters, best cameras for travel, etc.


That has already come up. And will continue be part of it.

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Jan 25, 2020 16:55:47   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
BuckeyeBilly wrote:
Try this. It's a fun and creative way to learn about photography that your older students will be talking about for years. They'll be so proud of their efforts and it will also spur them on to learn more about photography.

https://www.ephotozine.com/article/kickstart-your-creativity-with-an-a---z-photo-project-17103


I have seen this before and will add it to my list (handout) of on line places to get help and ideas.

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Jan 25, 2020 16:56:23   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
ncribble wrote:
I'm impressed with this discussion. Robert and you too Eric, my complements for this community service. In my opinion there are more photographs taken today than at any point in history as everybody has a cell phone and thus a camera. What a powerful resource to begin with, and the logical next step is to a real camera. I love great ideas and you are making one happen. You are walking the talk. Norm


Thanks

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Jan 25, 2020 16:57:47   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
minniev wrote:
Great that you're doing this! You've had many good suggestions already. I teach photography basics and editing to individuals and small groups so it may be a little different from yours but my students are all in the over 55 crowd. I use a lot of the same strategies you and the respondents have noted, and have picked up some ideas here to incorporate into what I'm doing, so thank you for the thread.

The first thing I do with any new person or group is a survey to find out what they already know and what they want to do that they don't know how to do. I also ask them to share a few of their favorite pictures and why they like them, and/or images they've seen that they admire. I repeat some kind of survey ever so often to guide what I'm doing with them. I also do shoots and editing sessions with them. Some have high end camera equipment, computers/software and some have phones and nothing else, so I make it where they can all participate.
Great that you're doing this! You've had many good... (show quote)


My goal exactly. Good luck to you with your groups.

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Jan 25, 2020 17:10:49   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
CLF wrote:
Jerry, first off, thank for taking the time to do this for us older folk. I am going to be 72 this July and have RA along with othr mobility concerns. One topic I did not read in this fantastic thread is how best to get around. Camera straps, video screens that tilt, etc. What kind of walking aid, cane, chair, crutches, etc. How to get low, ground shots and high shots which should be OK.

Greg


Hello youngster - I am 74. The problems older photographers or disabled photographers have will have to be part of it.
I and my wife both have knee, ankle and leg problems on occasion and she got real enthusiastic on a sight called "letgo" and we got two used HoverRound power chairs for $200 dollars each. The one with a 250 lb limit works great. The one with a 450 lb limit worked a couple months and then stopped taking a charge. I plan to get it serviced and new batteries if necessary and rig a large basket (off a shopping cart maybe) to carry camera bags and gear - maybe a monopod bolted on the bracket to carry a cane or crutches with a gimbal head on it and make it a pavement and firm ground park/trail portable photography transporter. She also got a power lift/transport rack that will handle the weight of the large chair for my SUV.

The lady with the unopened T6i didn't even know it had a screen - let alone a tilt screen. I did a quick demo of a news photographer using the screen with camera held over head and the couple with the fixed screen T6 promptly said "Next camera has one of those." I also have one those camera carrying vests to show, monopods, tripods etc.

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Jan 25, 2020 17:10:56   #
Selene03
 
As both a teacher and someone who has taken photography classes recently, I would recommend actually getting them to take pictures--hands on activity--as you are teaching concepts and things like how to use the camera. Maybe do short walking tours with them on the days you can't meet in classsrooms. You could even demonstrate simple post processing using their photographs. Students of all ages have very short attention spans. I would say this about myself too. I took one class that was so bad, I basically walked out on it a couple of times (which being a teacher myself, I would normally never do). What drove me nuts was the lack of organization and poor presentation of things with no hands on experience.

In general, my sense is that people learn things best when they are actually doing them. It's easier to understand the significance of lighting when you are confronting it directly. And yes, some older people have limitations that need to be considered.

Congratulations to you for taking this on. It is wonderful for people to develop hobbies when they have the time to pursue them, so you are performing a very useful service. Your ideas for topics to investigate are solid, but again, I would encourage you to actually get them taking photos or those cameras will probably remain in the boxes. All the best to you!!!

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Jan 25, 2020 17:11:36   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
So maybe “curmudgeon” would apply instead. 😜🤪


fight nice children

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Jan 25, 2020 17:14:54   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
pila wrote:
Great word!
I submit:
Is there a female word for curmudgeon? Exclude the “b” word.

Pila


curmudgete ??? I invented that one. I looked it up, no direct version - but a lot of almosts - but they are usually not really compliments or even humor

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Jan 25, 2020 17:15:06   #
rangel28
 
wishaw wrote:
Over 55, senior citizens, old timers. WTF. Get with the program. 70 is the new 50. Drag yourself into the 20th century. I for one do not like being categoeised in terms that were dropped along time ago by most of the 75 years young crowd


While it is now against the rules to say anything negative about any one group, it seems "senior citizens" are still fair game in our society. I am 58 and feel the same way now than I did when I was 20. And when I played in a co-ed softball team a few years ago, I was one of the fastest runners (played center field) on a team of folks mostly in their 30s and 40. Age is only a number.

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Jan 25, 2020 17:17:22   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Tinkwmobile wrote:
Teach exposure triangle and basics first. I have taught teenagers and unless your student knows how to take a picture, composition etal is useless. Student should learn camera controls as part of basics and exposure triangle.


thank you, Incorporated already, question is how much and order of presentation

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Jan 25, 2020 17:22:23   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
pila wrote:
Also, compliments on your class.
I am an old teacher.
The common trait of your class is experience.
So, I would ask your students, in their mind’s eye, describe a photo that they would like to have taken. Use your imagination.

Be visual.
Do not be real technical.

Also, think of examples of disappearing things. Phone booth. Wrist watch. Take a photo capturing anachronistic things. I want to do this myself.


good suggestions - one of the ladies glanced over one of the lists of suggested photo subjects and latched on to "portraits/essays/history of old people" - seems she has some relatives in their 90s and announced a project to do photos about them and their lives for the younger members of the family, present and future.

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Jan 25, 2020 17:23:37   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
nikon123 wrote:
Your comments are ‘bang on’. Given the age of the people in the group, there are limitations. When we go on outdoor and especially indoor shoots we talk about the many ways to get a sharp image. In camera selection, image stabilization cameras or lenses, tripod or monopod, how to hold the camera, higher ISO and faster shutter speeds, with an understanding that the latter two will impact image quality. The course that I give is quite comprehensive as photography to the beginner is akin to learning a new language.
Your comments are ‘bang on’. Given the age of the ... (show quote)



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Jan 25, 2020 17:25:14   #
tommystrat Loc: Bigfork, Montana
 
wishaw wrote:
Over 55, senior citizens, old timers. WTF. Get with the program. 70 is the new 50. Drag yourself into the 20th century. I for one do not like being categoeised in terms that were dropped along time ago by most of the 75 years young crowd


So very harsh for an innocent use of a much-used phrase. Kindness will always do more than snarkiness.

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Jan 25, 2020 17:49:25   #
ugly Dan
 
Great teacher taught that every student should buy a really good photography book on "whatever" they are most interested in. They are all pretty much the same. So some would buy a book for photographing dogs if is that is their hobby. Others may buy a good book on photographing landscapes or portraits. Don't think you have to supply everything. That way they not only have a basic photography book but something that they can use in their hobby.
Also, critique their pix but most of all teach them how to critique and let them explain in class how they would improve pictures.

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Jan 25, 2020 18:04:21   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
a6k wrote:
I have been there and done that as the old saying goes. You have received many good ideas, some excellent. So I will only put out some ideas that haven't been covered.

1. While it should not be a computer course, digital photography sans computers is impossible. There are some basic concepts and issues that need to be touched upon. The extent to which you spend time on them must depend upon the level of the students. For me, first and foremost must be how to copy image files from the camera/card to the computer and how to organize them on the computer. Of course, how to see them once they are on the computer is also needed.

2. I tried to make the case in my class that the definition of "composition" in digital photography is to a great extent inclusive of such things as depth of field, shutter speed and dynamic range, protecting highlights, etc. In my view, the composition is not merely the classical understanding but the photo characteristics that usually don't apply to, for example, a painting. Since my class was designed to emphasize the controls on the camera and their effect on the resulting image, I drew a figurative circle around controls, results and composition. It's not a common approach in my experience but I think that it worked Well. All my students already had digital cameras and computers.

just a note: I shamelessly used stuff from the internet to give examples of some of my points and since the class was free I didn't concern myself overly much with copyright issues. Fair use, right?

3. I tried to make the case for post-processing (raw or jpg) with some simple examples of cropping, exposure and red-eye and other easy but very impressive differences in the the final image. I think that succeeded.

I wish you the best. You can PM me if you want to ask more or bounce ideas, but you have a lot of really good stuff above this note already.
I have been there and done that as the old saying ... (show quote)


Thanks, some of that I am already working on and others I will work on.
My local camera store is one of those that has Canon and other reps putting on exhibits and classes from time to time, I will go there for help and there is a local Professional Photo and Video group a friend belongs to that teaches classes, gives demos etc. Maybe I can get help from them. I have seen a few of their demos/classes and a couple of their guys do an outstanding macro show.

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