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Jan 23, 2020 06:39:30   #
hammond
 
I've had good experience with e-infin.com out of Hong Kong. D850 is listed at $2200

Bought a Nikkor 105mm f1.4G and saved over $600. Works great.

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Jan 23, 2020 06:57:20   #
geneg12 Loc: Virginia
 
I bought a Nikon D5 3 years ago form I think 47th Street in NYC and saved $1500. I took the chance and knew what I was doing. They are sleazy and try dirty tricks to get you to buy insurance and extras. I refused them and told them to cancel my order. Fifteen minutes later my D5 was shipping and it has been great ever since. I know if it breaks I am stuck but it is very rugged and has been around the world.

My advice is research and know what you are doing, but a good quality camera and take care of it. I have never had to have a camera repaired (D300s, D700, D810, D850 and D5).

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Jan 23, 2020 07:27:52   #
jbk224 Loc: Long Island, NY
 
joer wrote:
There is no difference between Gray Market and USA market cameras. They are undistinguishable on the manufacturing assembly line. This is a marketing strategy to maximize profits for the companies. Its a game they all participate in knowingly.

Much fear mongering is put out to confuse the public.


Sometimes you may be correct; however, there may be differences. For instance, some Nikon bodies purchased from abroad will not have the option for an English menu. If you bring it into Nikon USA, you will be out of luck. They will not change the software-- for any price. I guess this will make body unusable, unless you are fluent in one of the language options.
And there has been much discussion here regarding the policies of USA importers (Nikon, Canon, etc...USA) and the reasons for differentiating grey market from USA authorized purchases. I do not agree with any of your conclusions.

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Jan 23, 2020 07:54:03   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Gray market cameras are said to be bought from other countries where prices are less expensive. I am wondering in which countries do camera prices are less than that in the USA?


You would have to check with that country. Nikon gray market camera's are exported from the following countries, but there my be more. And it depends how each country's currency holds up against the dollar, so this is a fluid process.
Japan
Europe, including UK
Canada
Australia, New Zealand
Asia
South America

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Jan 23, 2020 08:13:23   #
brooklyn-camera I Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
Which is correct GREY or gray?
"Gray" or "grey"? One spelling is British, and one is American. Have you ever wondered why you see "gray" spelled two different ways? "Grey" is the preferred spelling in British English, but "gray" is more common in American English.Aug 27, 2018

Who knew?

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Jan 23, 2020 08:14:55   #
ltj123 Loc: NW Wisconsin
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Grey market products are products that are imported by a company other than the authorized importer for that country. Canon USA is the authorized importer of Canon products in the USA. Canon USA also supplies the local warranty for products imported by Canon USA, at an additional cost. If a company in the USA purchased Canon products from a company in Hong Kong, or even Japan, there is no fee paid to Canon USA making these grey market items. Canon's factory warranty will be honored in the country the products were imported from but the warranty will not be honored in the USA because Canon USA'S fee was not paid.
The cost of the product isn't necessarily less expensive, there's just no local warranty fee.
Grey market products are products that are importe... (show quote)


Wrong sorta as no local photo shop return ability, BUT I registered and received Canon warranties for both 6D2 and 24-105mmL Mk2. Plus saved hundreds of dollars on each. Just need to be careful purchasing

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Jan 23, 2020 08:52:30   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I'm just guessing here, but ... When a dealer wants to buy gray market cameras, he doesn't send someone to a foreign country and have him buy a camera (hoping for a lower price) from a retail store and fly home with it. He will arrange with a foreign seller to buy a dozen or more cameras at a wholesale price. I could not go to China and save significant money on a new Nikon DSLR.

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Jan 23, 2020 09:11:57   #
Keen
 
Reliable, legit, dealers do not handle grey market goods. If they get caught handling them, they cease being legit dealers. Grey items can be great bargains...IF they come with all pertinent accessories, and all is in good condition, and nothing need servicing any time soon. If your luck is bad, and you need to buy the accessories as extras, or something breaks down, it all becomes less of a bargain. The cost of shipping stuff back to China, or wherever, to fix it, and then paying to ship it back here once fixed, adds up. It is a gamble...like a slot machine.

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Jan 23, 2020 10:24:55   #
ecurb Loc: Metro Chicago Area
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I'm just guessing here, but ... When a dealer wants to buy gray market cameras, he doesn't send someone to a foreign country and have him buy a camera (hoping for a lower price) from a retail store and fly home with it. He will arrange with a foreign seller to buy a dozen or more cameras at a wholesale price. I could not go to China and save significant money on a new Nikon DSLR.


Years ago I worked for the old Helix Photo in Chicago. The owner would buy equipment, mostly out of Hong Kong, in $ 9,999.00 lots to avoid having to report expenditures over $ 10,000.00 to the government.

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Jan 23, 2020 10:57:26   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
BebuLamar wrote:
But how to reduce the cost? I have been to Hong Kong and Japan and the prices there aren't any less expensive than in the USA. Among Nikon DSLR's I found that in Japan only the D5 and Df are less expensive.


How about the price for 50 in one purchase? 500? The economics of scale change every products price.

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Jan 23, 2020 11:04:13   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
brooklyn-camera I wrote:
Which is correct GREY or gray?
"Gray" or "grey"? One spelling is British, and one is American. Have you ever wondered why you see "gray" spelled two different ways? "Grey" is the preferred spelling in British English, but "gray" is more common in American English.Aug 27, 2018

Who knew?

It’s like changing a tyre.

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Jan 23, 2020 11:10:21   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
jbk224 wrote:
Sometimes you may be correct; however, there may be differences. For instance, some Nikon bodies purchased from abroad will not have the option for an English menu. If you bring it into Nikon USA, you will be out of luck. They will not change the software-- for any price. I guess this will make body unusable, unless you are fluent in one of the language options.
And there has been much discussion here regarding the policies of USA importers (Nikon, Canon, etc...USA) and the reasons for differentiating grey market from USA authorized purchases. I do not agree with any of your conclusions.
Sometimes you may be correct; however, there may b... (show quote)

I’ve heard a lot of the gray vs non arguments but never that one. I had to choose the language from the menus. There were many choices on my Canons.

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Jan 23, 2020 11:10:22   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
Thank you B&H for info.

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Jan 23, 2020 11:24:35   #
Bob Werre
 
At one time Customs did some enforcement in regards to brandnames. For instance a Nikkormat in the US was called Nikomat elsewhere. In photo school and during the Vietnam war (PX'a) students would buy anything if it was a bit cheaper. One fellow bought the RB 67, when they were the greatest thing, but to get by the Customs people the seller used a Dymo Label Maker to relabel the camera, so instead of saying Mamiya RB, it had his name over the label. We all thought it was pretty neat. Another student's dad was a pilot who would bring back an extra suitcase. When this kid arrived one night with this suitcase, he opened it up with items ordered by the guys. It was like Christmas morning...a Nikon for Steve, a Canon for Bill, and Ralph gets a new wide angle!

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Jan 23, 2020 11:49:47   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
Bob Werre wrote:
At one time Customs did some enforcement in regards to brandnames. For instance a Nikkormat in the US was called Nikomat elsewhere. In photo school and during the Vietnam war (PX'a) students would buy anything if it was a bit cheaper. One fellow bought the RB 67, when they were the greatest thing, but to get by the Customs people the seller used a Dymo Label Maker to relabel the camera, so instead of saying Mamiya RB, it had his name over the label. We all thought it was pretty neat. Another student's dad was a pilot who would bring back an extra suitcase. When this kid arrived one night with this suitcase, he opened it up with items ordered by the guys. It was like Christmas morning...a Nikon for Steve, a Canon for Bill, and Ralph gets a new wide angle!
At one time Customs did some enforcement in regard... (show quote)

A friend attended University of Montana in the photography program. His dad owned a drugstore that also had a high end photo equipment and Kodak stock house with all the stuff. He was a very popular guy as you may imagine.

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