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Jan 20, 2020 08:30:52   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
And be sure your focus mode is set to "C" for Continuous. That way you can track moving subjects and make the shot while tracking, or focus and then release the button to lock focus on a static subject.

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Jan 20, 2020 08:44:57   #
David Kay Loc: Arlington Heights IL
 
gailj wrote:
Hi after submitting a photo with focus trouble someone suggested i may not have BBF set up correctly and think they are right. I thought i was doing all the steps but when i check back to controls it reverts back to Fn1 instead of AE-L/AF-L, any help would appreciated. Gail


Gail, watch this you tube video and it might help you to make sure you are setting it up correctly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxPMpk6-TjM

I have been using BBF for years, shooting all kinds of photography, and would not go back to the 1/2 shutter push. Shooting events and portraits and landscapes. etc.

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Jan 20, 2020 08:51:33   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
"What am i missing with BBF" Since this requires the shooter to be in Continuous (C) mode you will indeed be denied the "Conformation" Beep as the camera locks focus... (for Nikon)

Also you will be denied AF FOCUS ASSIST ILLUMINATION... That my friend is a MAJOR down side of BBF especially for shooting in a dark studio... (again for Nikon) This will likely result in out of focus captures (sound familiar gailj)

So yes BBF works well for shooting sports & wildlife in stellar illumination scenarios however it can virtually suck in a dark venue...

"...… Look out kid
They keep it all hid
Better jump down a manhole
Light yourself a candle…"

Bobby Dylan Subterranean Homesick Blues

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Jan 20, 2020 09:55:44   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
If you are not using BBF you are missing out. Steve Perry of Back Country Gallery has an excellent video explaining BBF and several excellent books as well.

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Jan 20, 2020 10:08:07   #
bweber Loc: Newton, MA
 
Focus assist may not work with BBF on a Nikon. I works on all of my Canons.

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Jan 20, 2020 11:04:08   #
Bullfrog Bill Loc: CT
 
You also need to set the AF button on the front of the body to continuous so the camera focuses continually while the AF-on button is pressed but focus locks when you release the AF-ON button.

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Jan 20, 2020 12:35:51   #
tkeller2242
 
Yes. That was my first thought. With BBF, the shutter button is only there to activate the shutter and not to focus.

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Jan 20, 2020 13:31:58   #
gailj Loc: Fulton IL
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Edit — Sorry I used Canon terms here because that is what I shoot. But the teams may be slightly different but the concepts are very similar...

Are you using One Shot or AI Servo mode? I use BBF and AI Servo, continuous focus, 99.9 percent of the time. Mostly use single focus point too. Normally just hold down the BBF assigned button and keep your focus point on the subject where you want to focus.

If you want to lock focus you just release pressing the BBF assigned button. Then you can recompose the shot with focus locked. This would be more for stationary subjects. Make sure that you have turned off focus start on the shutter button, otherwise you might be restarting focus with a half press of the shutter button.

If you shoot a few times a week give yourself 3-4 weeks using BBF and it will become second nature. And you will probably never go back to half shutter press focus.
Edit — Sorry I used Canon terms here because that ... (show quote)


Thank you 😊

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Jan 20, 2020 13:36:56   #
gailj Loc: Fulton IL
 
Thomas902 wrote:
"What am i missing with BBF" Since this requires the shooter to be in Continuous (C) mode you will indeed be denied the "Conformation" Beep as the camera locks focus... (for Nikon)

Also you will be denied AF FOCUS ASSIST ILLUMINATION... That my friend is a MAJOR down side of BBF especially for shooting in a dark studio... (again for Nikon) This will likely result in out of focus captures (sound familiar gailj)

So yes BBF works well for shooting sports & wildlife in stellar illumination scenarios however it can virtually suck in a dark venue...

"...… Look out kid
They keep it all hid
Better jump down a manhole
Light yourself a candle…"

Bobby Dylan Subterranean Homesick Blues
"What am i missing with BBF" Since this ... (show quote)


Thanks Thomas I have 2 D series cameras so I will take one off BBF for indoor shots and see if that helps

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Jan 20, 2020 15:41:31   #
dwmoar Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley
 
bweber wrote:
Focus assist may not work with BBF on a Nikon. I works on all of my Canons.


and so does the focus lock beep

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Jan 20, 2020 15:52:35   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
dwmoar wrote:
and so does the focus lock beep


Some cameras, yes.
Others, no.

All cameras should have the beep turned off, about the same time you finish inserting a charged battery into the body for the first time.

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Jan 20, 2020 16:18:23   #
Photocraig
 
The often missed step is to turn off the shutter button AF. Otherwise this re-focuses the image at shutter actuation--negating the BBF lock on the point the photographer chooses. I'm not familiar with Nikon menu speak, but it look to me as if you have af-Locck assigned but ALSO have shutter button AF assigned also.

Steve Perry does have the best 'splanation and proper steps. Great videos on the subject.

I'm an old manual SLR and RF guy from the film DAZE. I like separating the focus function from the shutter function while still using AF. It works for multi point AF as well as focus-recompose which was, in the day, our only option.

Good luck, and enjoy the control of where to focus vs letting the camera choose.

C

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Jan 20, 2020 19:36:23   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
gailj wrote:
Ok that makes sense I am having trouble holding focus when I release the AE-L button so I thought maybe it wasn’t set up correctly but I think the reason is I’m moving the camera causing it to lose focus :( Thanks Bill


You have to also, deactivate the shutter button focus.

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Jan 20, 2020 22:17:14   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
Photocraig wrote:
The often missed step is to turn off the shutter button AF. Otherwise this re-focuses the image at shutter actuation--negating the BBF lock on the point the photographer chooses. I'm not familiar with Nikon menu speak, but it look to me as if you have af-Locck assigned but ALSO have shutter button AF assigned also.

Steve Perry does have the best 'splanation and proper steps. Great videos on the subject.

I'm an old manual SLR and RF guy from the film DAZE. I like separating the focus function from the shutter function while still using AF. It works for multi point AF as well as focus-recompose which was, in the day, our only option.

Good luck, and enjoy the control of where to focus vs letting the camera choose.

C
The often missed step is to turn off the shutter b... (show quote)


To me Steve’s videos are a Godsend.

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Jan 21, 2020 00:02:47   #
Homer60 Loc: Lyons, Illinois
 
Gail,
After looking at your supplied camera menu shots, I agree with frankenrev, have to turn off focus from shutter release.
As with others I have found Steve Perry's information very informative for Nikon products as that is what I shoot. This link may help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzqQskGoURE

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