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Jan 3, 2020 16:31:08   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
Magaliaman wrote:
You're 100% correct. I Wondered about Sidecar files as well. Like you, I Doubt they're considered photos. For now I'm just happy to dump all my raw copies offsite. It would be nice to have my entire Lightroom catalog with raw files and sidecar files, but for free, I can live with the limitations. I Guess if I lost everything again, I'd have to start processing raw images again. That might be okay too as I've gotten a bit better at that over the years.

-Gary


Here is what they allow.....Hopefully they will add CR3 shortly and consider XMP. Allthough you get 5 GB of free space as well as unlimited for photos.... 5 GB can hold a lot of xmp files ;)


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Jan 3, 2020 16:32:54   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
I posted this as a a new topic last week. A lady responded that it was not appropriate about photography.

I was surprised when I saw this article. Just think --photos we have on the internet can
be data mined to create information for marketing or whatever it can be used for.
Facebook, photo websites, stored photos etc. I have 70 videos on Vimeo.
I have become very annoyed that information on us is being distributed for money.
Recently medical information. A family photo now can be detected for information.
Where you are. Ages of people. Where you go or vacation. We all know that
if you go online look at camera or anything you get emails and pop ups etc.

https://www.consumerreports.org/privacy/what-can-you-tell-from-photo-exif-data/
Tomcat5133

If we store a lot of imagery or videos online they can be revealing personal information.
I have my work and family on my Mac photos desktop. My wife posts on facebook often.
On my beautiful granddaughters 12th bday I created a video for her. A comment from a foreign
country raved about my granddaughters looks.
Your buying a house and the financial mortgager gets information about your family where they go
how they dress what you house looks like. A picture of a daughter can be IDed for location.
Before you think I am paranoid. I was in FL for 3 years just back in PA. Shot video and stills for high end
ballet academy. I was getting hits from all over the world by voyeurs. My client ran a stretching class video young girl students . She got thousand of hits. She seemed naive to what was happening.

If any of the members feel this post is not relevant let me know. I shall kill it.

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Jan 3, 2020 16:36:33   #
Magaliaman Loc: Magalia, CA
 
Dngallagher wrote:
Here is what they allow.....Hopefully they will add CR3 shortly and consider XMP. Allthough you get 5 GB of free space as well as unlimited for photos.... 5 GB can hold a lot of xmp files ;)


True... Adding XMP files would be great, but I don't expect that to happen. It just amazes me how deep you have to dig to find this info out. Heck, I'm still shocked I never even heard about Amazon Photos till the other day. I guess I had my head in the sand. Even the question someone posted about "How much does Prime Cost" doesn't really jump off the page at you. Thanks for the update on the file types

-Gary

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Jan 3, 2020 16:45:26   #
Magaliaman Loc: Magalia, CA
 
Tomcat5133 wrote:
I posted this as a a new topic last week. A lady responded that it was not appropriate about photography.

I was surprised when I saw this article. Just think --photos we have on the internet can
be data mined to create information for marketing or whatever it can be used for.
Facebook, photo websites, stored photos etc. I have 70 videos on Vimeo.
I have become very annoyed that information on us is being distributed for money.
Recently medical information. A family photo now can be detected for information.
Where you are. Ages of people. Where you go or vacation. We all know that
if you go online look at camera or anything you get emails and pop ups etc.

https://www.consumerreports.org/privacy/what-can-you-tell-from-photo-exif-data/
Tomcat5133

If we store a lot of imagery or videos online they can be revealing personal information.
I have my work and family on my Mac photos desktop. My wife posts on facebook often.
On my beautiful granddaughters 12th bday I created a video for her. A comment from a foreign
country raved about my granddaughters looks.
Your buying a house and the financial mortgager gets information about your family where they go
how they dress what you house looks like. A picture of a daughter can be IDed for location.
Before you think I am paranoid. I was in FL for 3 years just back in PA. Shot video and stills for high end
ballet academy. I was getting hits from all over the world by voyeurs. My client ran a stretching class video young girl students . She got thousand of hits. She seemed naive to what was happening.

If any of the members feel this post is revenant let me know. I shall kill it. 30 thousand photos online.
I posted this as a a new topic last week. A lady r... (show quote)


I Don't want to sound negative about your post, there are many valid concerns you raise. But its nearly impossible to not leave a digital footprint somewhere. I mean your credit history and social security administrations have been hacked and have left users vulnerable to fraud and identity theft. This is NOT a photo sharing site, its not intended to allow others to view your images. Could Amazon Have a security Breech? Sure.... but so can Equifax, and your local bank, and the DMV, and The Social Security Admin. The list goes on and on.

Valid concern, but you cant totally protect yourself from criminals all the time. Use of common Sense is definitely in order when doing ANYTHING on the internet.

-Gary

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Jan 3, 2020 16:58:16   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Yes, it looks like a good "extra" backup to my external drive - BUT - I don't trust them not to rip off photos as far as I could throw an Amazon warehouse with one hand or even their oh so honest and impartial CEO/Owner/Founder or what ever he is called this week. On the other hand I have never sold or made any money off my photography so it wouldn't take any money out of my pocket - potential money yes, but if it happened and I found out about it I could go straight to their customers and offer photographer to client with the middle man cut out, even custom edits from the RAW files.
I have Prime for the first time in my life starting just last fall. Now that my wife and I both get problems walking around stores from time to time to shop we do even more on Amazon - at least what we can't do at a supermarket, Sam's, Costco or Walmart. I can buy the cat and dog food by the case and have it delivered in a day or sometimes even less if I order early in the morning - a few Amazon centers here in the LA Metro area that stock almost everything because the local customer base is so large - same goes for Walmart.

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Jan 3, 2020 17:08:17   #
Magaliaman Loc: Magalia, CA
 
robertjerl wrote:
Yes, it looks like a good "extra" backup to my external drive - BUT - I don't trust them not to rip off photos as far as I could throw an Amazon warehouse with one hand or even their oh so honest and impartial CEO/Owner/Founder or what ever he is called this week. On the other hand I have never sold or made any money off my photography so it wouldn't take any money out of my pocket - potential money yes, but if it happened and I found out about it I could go straight to their customers and offer photographer to client with the middle man cut out, even custom edits from the RAW files.
I have Prime for the first time in my life starting just last fall. Now that my wife and I both get problems walking around stores from time to time to shop we do even more on Amazon - at least what we can't do at a supermarket, Sam's, Costco or Walmart. I can buy the cat and dog food by the case and have it delivered in a day or sometimes even less if I order early in the morning - a few Amazon centers here in the LA Metro area that stock almost everything because the local customer base is so large - same goes for Walmart.
Yes, it looks like a good "extra" backup... (show quote)


There are probably easier ways for a criminal to compromise your digital integrity, then hack an Amazon server and download your images to scour out the exif data. If that's all I had to worry about for internet security, I'd be happy. Its not like its "not" a concern, its just something that's low priority for security reasons. At least in my opinion.

-Gary

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Jan 3, 2020 18:31:40   #
Chico 1948 Loc: Cincinnati
 
Dngallagher wrote:
When Crashplan raised their rates I did look at Carbonite and Backblaze. $6.00 a month is not a bad price. I was using Crashplan for a complete backup as well. It worked out great, except for the costs going up ;)

I use Crashplan and love it. Just $7.50 a month for two computers, me and wife. Full backups, easy retrieval, and great service.

What are our photos worth? I have learned photography is quite expensive, my photos are precious.

Pete

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Jan 3, 2020 19:16:25   #
Bret Perry
 
Ednsb wrote:
...I would have to limit the uploads so as not to exceed the cap. It might take me 6 months to complete the backup...


Most paid backup services allow you to send an external hard drive to them, they will "upload" for you and send it back or in the case of Amazon's paid "glacier" service, they sent us a BIG hard drive, I copied my files to it and sent it back. That will by-pass the ISP's cap and can be faster, though it did take them weeks to complete the 20TB "upload".

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Jan 3, 2020 19:22:16   #
frjeff Loc: Mid-Michigan
 
I have been a Prime member forever but just found this out a week ago. Uploaded all of my 6000+ images. Why not?
I keep two external drives on my desk and another that is stored off site in a safe. Maybe the Amazon cloud is overkill, but why not when it’s free.

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Jan 3, 2020 19:37:04   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Tomcat5133 wrote:
I posted this as a a new topic last week. A lady responded that it was not appropriate about photography.

I was surprised when I saw this article. Just think --photos we have on the internet can
be data mined to create information for marketing or whatever it can be used for.
Facebook, photo websites, stored photos etc. I have 70 videos on Vimeo.
I have become very annoyed that information on us is being distributed for money.
Recently medical information. A family photo now can be detected for information.
Where you are. Ages of people. Where you go or vacation. We all know that
if you go online look at camera or anything you get emails and pop ups etc.

https://www.consumerreports.org/privacy/what-can-you-tell-from-photo-exif-data/
Tomcat5133

If we store a lot of imagery or videos online they can be revealing personal information.
I have my work and family on my Mac photos desktop. My wife posts on facebook often.
On my beautiful granddaughters 12th bday I created a video for her. A comment from a foreign
country raved about my granddaughters looks.
Your buying a house and the financial mortgager gets information about your family where they go
how they dress what you house looks like. A picture of a daughter can be IDed for location.
Before you think I am paranoid. I was in FL for 3 years just back in PA. Shot video and stills for high end
ballet academy. I was getting hits from all over the world by voyeurs. My client ran a stretching class video young girl students . She got thousand of hits. She seemed naive to what was happening.

If any of the members feel this post is not relevant let me know. I shall kill it.
I posted this as a a new topic last week. A lady r... (show quote)


This has nothing at all to do with the subject. Using cloud storage has nothing to do with making photos or information available online.

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Jan 3, 2020 19:43:07   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
Magaliaman wrote:
Okay, if you know about this, I'm sorry, I don't mean to be redundant, BUT...………

Did you know that if you're an Amazon Prime Member, Amazon provides UNLIMITED Cloud Full Res Photo Storage. I Just dumped over 2,000 NEF files to their cloud. You have limitations on Videos (and probably regular Data Files) But unlimited Photos. I Cant believe it. I Wish I knew about this before the California Wildfires that destroyed my NAS system and every photo I ever took in my life.

Anyhow, I've been a prime member for nearly a year now and never knew of this. Check it out if you're a Prime member.

-Gary
Okay, if you know about this, I'm sorry, I don't m... (show quote)


Carbonite provides unlimited backup for any kind of file.

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Jan 3, 2020 19:45:22   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
Chico 1948 wrote:
I use Crashplan and love it. Just $7.50 a month for two computers, me and wife. Full backups, easy retrieval, and great service.

What are our photos worth? I have learned photography is quite expensive, my photos are precious.

Pete


Last price I had with Crashplan was $10.00 a month per computer. In fact, their web site currently shows $10.00 per month for 1 computer


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Jan 3, 2020 22:28:38   #
oldnomad
 
If you are looking for cloud storage, reasonably priced, and encrypted, take a look at Wasabi for the storage and cloudberry aka msp360 for the encryption. Another alternative to Amazon, carbonite, crashplan, etc. I have it automatically backup portions of my document folder every night.

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Jan 3, 2020 23:54:36   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Magaliaman wrote:
There are probably easier ways for a criminal to compromise your digital integrity, then hack an Amazon server and download your images to scour out the exif data. If that's all I had to worry about for internet security, I'd be happy. Its not like its "not" a concern, its just something that's low priority for security reasons. At least in my opinion.

-Gary


Not if the hacker is Amazon.

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Jan 3, 2020 23:56:59   #
Magaliaman Loc: Magalia, CA
 
robertjerl wrote:
Not if the hacker is Amazon.


True, but I'd hope mining exif data from images just to enhance any supposed marketing advantage is a little more work than its worth. Now if the server was on an NSA Site, Id think differently lol

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