rmalarz wrote:
I would have banned you, as well.
It is considered rude to alter another’s work. That is without prior permission of the OP.
Arguing about your transgression and the posting this reply, as you did, is reprehensible.
—Bob
You understand the situation incorrectly. Perhaps you and others consider it rude to place illustrative lines, but it is not so from where I come from, copyright, the professions of Art, publishing, and education. Such illustrative lines aid learning, as anyone who has attended an art appreciation course knows.
In fact, I was COMPLIMENTING the OP's composition, which he had derided. I also used lines to show perspective problems, and asked him, as someone with obvious respect on UHH how he might explain it.
Here are the relevant posts (May also be viewed at
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-618133-1.html):
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artBob (a regular here) (online) Joined: May 5, 2012 Posts: 4612 Loc: Near Chicago
Graham Smith wrote:
The framing isn't the best, the boy's feet are on the bottom, but it was shot with a Leica with framing lines in the viewfinder and they are not easy in a fast moving shot
I post:
"Actually, the composition seems fine, a radial, as shown with the structural lines in the illustration.. I do wonder, however, what caused the strange perspective distortion of what should be slightly converging lines, as in the illustration."
[Here I posted his photo with overlying compositional lines]
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Nov 7, 2019 15:39:00 #
Graham Smith Joined: Jun 12, 2013 Posts: 6951 Loc: Cambridgeshire UK
artBob wrote:
Actually, the composition seems fine, a radial, as shown with the structural lines in the illustration.. I do wonder, however, what caused the strange perspective distortion of what should be slightly converging lines, as in the illustration.
Graham Smith posts:
"Here we go again. Let's call it lens distortion and be done with it.
I will add that if you edit, draw your lines on or in any way mark my pictures I will cease posting in here.
It is against the section rules.
Photography is the simultaneous recognition, in a fraction of a second, of the significance of an event. Henri Cartier-Bresson."
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Nov 7, 2019 16:15:21 #
artBob (a regular here) (online) Joined: May 5, 2012 Posts: 4612 Loc: Near Chicago
Graham Smith wrote:
Here we go again. Let's call it lens distortion and be done with it.
I will add that if you edit, draw your lines on or in any way mark my pictures I will cease posting in here.
It is against the section rules.
I wrote:
"So sorry you feel that way. Threatening others over what you perceive as my indiscretions seems unfair. I will not respond anymore to your photos. I mistakenly thought that you, like me, were a teacher, and would like to pass on knowledge, ascribing to Fair Use, understanding the difference between it and editing. Too bad you cannot answer the questions, as I would think others would find them helpful, you being so respected."
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I have used such explanatory overlays in my classes, it is permitted by copyright law, and I did not consider it "editing," as no one in the professional field of visual work does. His reply was venomous, and the moderator insisted I say again what I had already said in previous posts. Such actions can be interpreted as fearful and impotent bulling.
There was no intention to be rude. My mistake was not seeing the small print personal info at the bottom of Smith's post, where he demanded no "editing or marking." My mistake, which I admitted:
"So there we have it. I did not edit, so what I did was not, as I understood it, against the section rules. However, Graham had added "marks" to editing his photos, and I missed that--my fault."
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-618133-3.html Somehow that got spun up into my purposely not following UHH rules. No one can produce one sentence where I write that. Continually, even as I argue for UHH to follow the rules of the bigger world when it comes to copyright and helpfulness, I recognized the need to follow the rules.
You and others have gotten very riled up over nothing, turning an intended compliment into a major infraction, and making up some story that I "wouldn't follow UHH rules."
I would think anyone with a sense of justice and lack of prejudice would see this. As I tallied up the pro and cons on the thread, however, it came up about 50/50.I would be very interested in the reasons for such a skewed view.
I read "reprehensible," "rude," "let it go"--all from just one side. What those people have done is wrong. It can affect each one in UHH. Is justice and truth less important than personal prejudice? Tell me just why that should be let go?