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Dec 14, 2019 16:30:33   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
Silverrails wrote:
Although if I want to use my Nikon D3300 at ISO 100, would that not produce a much better 5x7 Print, since it is a 24.2 Megapixel Camera, than my Pixel XL can produce, ( not sure how many Pixels XL actually has in it.
So, just guessing, and I really hate to think a Smartphone can produce better be images than a D3300 DSLR Camera.


You seem to be mixing things up here. Your ISO has nothing to do with picture size. You can make any size picture with a file shot at any ISO. Even that 24.2 megapixels number isn't about picture size. My 20mg. camera makes better files than my older 24mg. camera. The ultimate size you print is all in the quality of the shot. If the file is sharp and the exposure is right, there is almost no limit on the size of your final print. You also don't need to get to wrapped up dpi and ppi and all the other printing numbers that show up. Your program will take care of all that.
I mostly print from LR. I set my ppi to 320 years ago and never touch it, yet I print from 5x7 (note cards) to 17x25 (Epson P800) and would go larger if I had a bigger printer. The prints all look exactly the same. Lightroom does all the work behind the scenes so I don't have to think about all those confusing numbers.
When software was not so advanced and printers not as good you had to figure things out more. Really smart people at HP and Epson and Canon and Adobe have taken care of all this so we don't need to worry.
Whats the PPI of the 17x25 inch photo I am looking at right now? I don't have a clue and don't care. It looks great. Thats what counts.
...Cam

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Dec 14, 2019 17:42:07   #
BebuLamar
 
Silverrails wrote:
My intention is to Use my personalized 5x7 Prints in pre-designed "Greeting Cards" frames, hopefully to supplement my Retirement. I am not confident that a Smartphone Camera can produce a Quality 5x7 Print,...Am I wrong?


A smartphone can indeed produce a very high quality 5x7 print. The short coming of the smartphone isn't so much how large you can print but rather in many other ways.
Off the top of my head
1. You can't do fill flash with it.
2. Many smartphones have only one fixed focal length lens. Some have up to 3 lenses but no where compared to a typical camera.
3. You have little controls over aperture and shutter speed.
There are other aspects I can't think of right now but large print isn't one of them.

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Dec 14, 2019 20:48:07   #
canon Lee
 
Actually the mode you are shooting is very important. Shooting Aperture priority will correct exposure. Iso is more important in LOW light environments. I would also suggest bracketing. F settings determine depth of field. So generally start with Aperture priority- ISO 100% - F8 and bracket. If you want to use HDR use a tripod.

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Dec 14, 2019 21:30:38   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Silverrails wrote:
Just curious, I bought a Nikon Lens with a 4.5 - 5.6 Aperture range. ( not received yet.)
With Landscape Photography, in average to Good Daylight, how High or Low might I be required to set my ISO to capture a acceptable & decent Photo that I could make 5x7 Prints??
Would this just be Trial & Error continued Effort?


It's always a good idea to do ISO tests with your camera to see for yourself how much noise you get at various ISOs. Nobody else can tell you how high you can go on ISO and keep the image quality you like. higher ISOs are usually needed when shooting without a tripod.

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Dec 14, 2019 23:05:49   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Silverrails wrote:
Although if I want to use my Nikon D3300 at ISO 100, would that not produce a much better 5x7 Print, since it is a 24.2 Megapixel Camera, than my Pixel XL can produce, ( not sure how many Pixels XL actually has in it.
So, just guessing, and I really hate to think a Smartphone can produce better be images than a D3300 DSLR Camera.


Not necessarily at that print size. Even if you’re printing at 300 dpi you’re barely over 3 megapixels. There would be no visible difference in a 5x7 print.

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Dec 15, 2019 04:05:30   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Regarding the apertures on your new lens, what you wrote is merely the largest opening the aperture can go at a given focal length. You can select smaller: f/8, f/11 and so forth.

Your aperture choice should be based on how much depth of field you desire. Your shutter speed should be based on motion considerations (hand-holding? Windy?). ISO should be your least "worry" for the reasons mentioned by others.


It took ten replies before Linda really explained what the f/4.5-f/5.6 indicated. (The maximum aperture possible). Seems like other posters thought, like the OP, that they were the ONLY apertures one could use...ie...NO facility to stop-down to f/8..f/11..f/16 etc. Well done Linda.

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Dec 15, 2019 05:49:49   #
w00dy4012 Loc: Thalia, East Virginia
 
Gene51 wrote:
Trial and learning, not error. Remain positive - you can either take a photo, or take a better one. For landscape, it is more about depth of field control than ISO. You make no mention of what camera you have.

This image was taken with a point and shoot - a Canon Powershot S400 - in 2004. The ISO was 9586. You either use autoISO or set it to give you the aperture and shutter speed you need.


Looks like Grafton Street.

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Dec 15, 2019 06:28:10   #
Collhar Loc: New York City.
 
Gene51 wrote:
Trial and learning, not error. Remain positive - you can either take a photo, or take a better one. For landscape, it is more about depth of field control than ISO. You make no mention of what camera you have.

This image was taken with a point and shoot - a Canon Powershot S400 - in 2004. The ISO was 9586. You either use autoISO or set it to give you the aperture and shutter speed you need.


I hope that car is parked there and is not attempting to drive through the pedestrian traffic.

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Dec 15, 2019 06:49:21   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Silverrails wrote:
Just curious, I bought a Nikon Lens with a 4.5 - 5.6 Aperture range. ( not received yet.)
With Landscape Photography, in average to Good Daylight, how High or Low might I be required to set my ISO to capture a acceptable & decent Photo that I could make 5x7 Prints??
Would this just be Trial & Error continued Effort?


I get wonderful detail on 20X30 prints at ISO 1600 with my Nikon D5. I believe you are going to be fine (depending on the camera) up to ISO 1000 and you will be able to get great 5X7 images.

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Dec 15, 2019 06:51:42   #
A.J.R. Loc: Devon, UK
 
w00dy4012 wrote:
Looks like Grafton Street.


Sorry Silverrails to change the subject somewhat but I was interested in where it was. Thought probably somewhere in the UK?

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Dec 15, 2019 07:04:36   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
"With Landscape Photography, in average to Good Daylight, how High or Low might I be required to set my ISO to capture a acceptable & decent Photo that I could make 5x7 Prints??"

When shooting landscapes it is preferable to use the smallest lens aperture that will offer a good depth of field. I am talking about apertures like f11, f16 or f22. Landscapes photographers in general prefer to use a tripod which in addition to being a great camera support it also helps with the composition. I do not know what "average" light is and to me good light means that there is plenty of sunshine except for sunrises or sunsets.

Whenever possible use the camera base ISO, which varies with the type of camera in use although it is usually ISO 100 or 200.

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Dec 15, 2019 07:23:41   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Silverrails wrote:
Just curious, I bought a Nikon Lens with a 4.5 - 5.6 Aperture range. ( not received yet.)
With Landscape Photography, in average to Good Daylight, how High or Low might I be required to set my ISO to capture a acceptable & decent Photo that I could make 5x7 Prints??
Would this just be Trial & Error continued Effort?


ISO 100 works great.

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Dec 15, 2019 08:16:58   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
I would say f/8 and ISO 200. Depending on your camera you may or may not need to use a tripod.

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Dec 15, 2019 09:09:12   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
If I was only gonna print 5x7 landscapes I’d use my iPhone.


I am wondering what exposure used has to do with the size of the print. Won't any print be the same from 4X3 to 16X20? I doubt anything at all. Perhaps you weren't thinking about exposure but only the print size when you commented.

Dennis

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Dec 15, 2019 09:37:33   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Silverrails wrote:
Just curious, I bought a Nikon Lens with a 4.5 - 5.6 Aperture range. ( not received yet.)
With Landscape Photography, in average to Good Daylight, how High or Low might I be required to set my ISO to capture a acceptable & decent Photo that I could make 5x7 Prints??
Would this just be Trial & Error continued Effort?


[Understanding Exposure[/b] by Bryan Peterson is a book you need to read.

1/ISO at f/16 is the base exposure in midday full sunlight. Example: at ISO 200, we can use (roughly):

1/200 at f/16
1/400 at f/11
1/800 at f/8
1/1600 at f/5.6
1/2400 at f/4.5

You balance the available quantity of light with sensitivity (as ISO), time (shutter speed) and photon flow (controlled by aperture). Proper use of your camera’s built-in meter is highly desired...

Other factors involved in the choice:

Action stopping ability/desired effect
Depth of field
Magnification (focal length in reference to “normal” for your size sensor)
Subject position relative to the sun
Sweet spot aperture of your lens
Diffraction avoidance

Get that stuff right, and any camera on the market will yield images that make great 5x7 prints!

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