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Nov 1, 2019 11:31:37   #
Spiney Loc: Reading, PA
 
I have both the Pro-100 and the Pro-10. I have also followed the Inkjet Printing forum by Jose Rodriguez on YouTube & Facebook for 2 years.

If you want truly archival buy the Canon Pro-10, not the 100. The 100 is dye inks, the 10 is Pigment 10 carts.

From following the forum unless you’re going to be printing constantly avoid the Epsons over the Canon. The Canon printers have much less issues with clogged heads

Precision Inks makes third party ink replacement for the Canon’s & Epson printers with excellent quality control and provides profiles for them free of charge.

Though if you’re selling prints and want the longest Archival life then you want to use OEM Canon inks.

I’d suggest you check into Jose Rodriguez’s group either before or after you purchase a printer.

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Nov 1, 2019 11:56:13   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
Spiney wrote:
I have both the Pro-100 and the Pro-10. I have also followed the Inkjet Printing forum by Jose Rodriguez on YouTube & Facebook for 2 years.

If you want truly archival buy the Canon Pro-10, not the 100. The 100 is dye inks, the 10 is Pigment 10 carts.

From following the forum unless you’re going to be printing constantly avoid the Epsons over the Canon. The Canon printers have much less issues with clogged heads

Precision Inks makes third party ink replacement for the Canon’s & Epson printers with excellent quality control and provides profiles for them free of charge.

Though if you’re selling prints and want the longest Archival life then you want to use OEM Canon inks.

I’d suggest you check into Jose Rodriguez’s group either before or after you purchase a printer.
I have both the Pro-100 and the Pro-10. I have als... (show quote)


Proper use of any printer avoids clogged heads, improper use guarantees it.
While 3rd party inks can work out for some users most often they are the root cause of clogged heads. If you want to take the chance to save a few dollars, be sure to do extensive research to find the most consistently reliable ink supplier.

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Nov 1, 2019 13:35:52   #
josquin1 Loc: Massachusetts
 
Been using the Canon Pixma Pro-10 for the last 6 years and it's been great. It uses pigment inks and I get beautiful prints.

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Nov 1, 2019 13:55:16   #
rcarol
 
speters wrote:
If you want to print only tiny prints like 11x14, you do not need to purchase a large format printer!


What printer did you have in mind that will print 11" X 14" images that is not at least a 13" X 19" printer?

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Nov 1, 2019 15:02:26   #
jblazar Loc: Sunnyvale, CA
 
Another vote for Jose Rodriguez's forum/videos. And by his tests, Precision Color Canon inks for the Pro-100 do not have clogging problems. They just are not going to be as archival as the Canon inks.

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Nov 1, 2019 15:09:05   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
bsprague wrote:
A little bigger than 11x14 are the Canon Pro-100 with "100 year" dye inks and the more expensive Pro-10 with pigment inks that last a longer "really long time".


I have printed many great 11 by 14's with my Canon Pro 100 MarkII.

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Nov 1, 2019 15:42:10   #
Joe 88
 
RED RIVER is the place to buy paper. Ebay is for larger format printers and ink. I been doing this for over 10 years NO HEAD AICHS, my business is a photo booth.

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Nov 1, 2019 15:43:04   #
Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx
 
Canon makes great products, but so does Epson. You might want to look at the XP-15000 13" x 19" 6 color dye based ink printer. I've had mine for a couple of years now and am very happy with it. The Epson claims 98 year life in a frame and up to 200 years in a photo album with Claria inks. If you want pigment based inks, take a look at the P400 13" wide 8 color printer, which goes up to 13"x19" sheet fed, but can be roll fed as well.

Epson has the papers you expect, but look at Red River ( RedRiverCatalog.com ) no matter what printer you buy.

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Nov 1, 2019 15:58:34   #
rcarol
 
cambriaman wrote:
I have printed many great 11 by 14's with my Canon Pro 100 MarkII.


Mark II? Didn't know there was a Mark II version of this printer. Since when?

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Nov 1, 2019 16:28:55   #
rebride
 
Photographer Jim wrote:
“Archival” qualities have more to do with the inks you use as opposed to the papers.


Media Matters.
Check out - https://www.aardenburg-imaging.com/spread-the-newsmedia-matter/

Spiney wrote:


Precision Inks makes third party ink replacement for the Canon’s & Epson printers with excellent quality control and provides profiles for them free of charge.
Though if you’re selling prints and want the longest Archival life then you want to use OEM Canon inks.


Precision Inks did very poor at Aardenbgurg testing. Is not Precision just one guy selling ink? Not sure he makes the inks.

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Nov 1, 2019 20:42:58   #
Igbar
 
I love my Canon Pro 10. good for up to 13X19

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Nov 1, 2019 23:30:02   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
rebride wrote:
Precision Inks did very poor at Aardenbgurg testing. Is not Precision just one guy selling ink? Not sure he makes the inks.


It is always hard to see clearly through the marketing information. But, if I get it right, Canon magically makes ink and paper that when combined with each other, are more long lasting. Another ink may be a good color match, but won't have that magic.

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Nov 2, 2019 10:04:02   #
one_eyed_pete Loc: Colonie NY
 
jabe750 wrote:
I am looking for information about buying a larger format printer. I want to print my own 11 x 14 prints. Also, I'd like to know if there is "archival" printing paper for home printing.


Another consideration might be available space or printer footprint. I wanted to be able to print 11"X14" prints but my most convenient space was limited to about 19" wide. My first choice for a printer was the Canon Pixma Pro-10 but it was too wide (27") for my space. I found an Epson "Small in One" photo printer that printed up to 11"X17" but was the same width as the 8"X10" printer I was replacing. I opted for the Epson XP-950 (currently XP-960) and I have been very happy with the 11"X14" prints it produces.

Regarding paper, you have a lot of choices but I vote for Red River.

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Nov 2, 2019 11:17:27   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
bsprague wrote:
It is always hard to see clearly through the marketing information. But, if I get it right, Canon magically makes ink and paper that when combined with each other, are more long lasting. Another ink may be a good color match, but won't have that magic.


It is the same with Epson. They know the technology behind the coatings on their papers, and what sorts of binders and preservatives must be used to optimize both color and life, while minimizing "bleed" or dot gain.

If you use third party papers, it's still a good idea to use OEM ink. It runs best in the print heads.

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Nov 2, 2019 13:36:53   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
rcarol wrote:
What printer did you have in mind that will print 11" X 14" images that is not at least a 13" X 19" printer?


A 13x19 printer is not a large format printer! ( I print with an Epson 3880 Pro, which is a 17x22 and it is a small format printer)!

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