Trump’s Overt Racism Is Uniting Democrats and Unnerving Some Republicans (Page 12): No one is against the "Free Press". We are against a "Freely Lying Press". They have been caught...

Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa

Lemon Drop Kid wrote:

You are, of course, using "Trump Facts".... (show quote)

No one is against the "Free Press". We are against a "Freely Lying Press". They have been caught lying and misrepresenting the truth literally thousands of times just since Trump took office. They continually do not report the facts. They put the liberal lying spin on every topic, spoon feed it to the lemming democrats and they are content. Truth doesn't matter to them. Just like the press showing the detained illegals at the border and screaming in outrage, until it came out that the photo was on obummers watch.

You sir, are a closed minded democrat. Mueller clearly said NO COLLUSION, but you won't accept that, it is not the truth you want to hear.

I am sickened by what the muslim obummer did to this country and will NEVER give any democrat my vote.

Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa

Lemon Drop Kid wrote:

You are, of course, using "Trump Facts".... (show quote)

Care to share exactly what you think Trump has "done" that is bad for Americans?

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

Angmo wrote:

Think about it:

Mo this is advanced conspiracy theory stuff

pendennis

dennis2146 wrote:

Not true and his indicting several others proves m... (show quote)

Mueller was a prosecutor. As such, he's bound by DOJ regulations. He knew exactly what he was writing, and knew it would be inflammatory, as well as unethical. I stand by my post. If an indictment is not in order, the person in the investigation must remain unnamed. Nothing in Mueller's report indicated that the President was a co-conspirator, unindicted, or not.

I never stated, nor implied, that Mueller couldn't make up his mind. He was very calculating, and as with most lawyers, he didn't put anything to paper without intention or purpose.

While DOJ regulations also prevent a sitting President from being indicted by the DOJ, Mueller used inference to bolster his lack of legal foundation. So, if you want to argue, call Andy McCarthy or Joe Digenova. They've mentioned this "gotcha" by Mueller numbers of times.

Further, Mueller completely ignored the misconduct by Comey, and it bore directly on his investigation. That Mueller had the gall to mention the President's dismissal of Comey, is a non-starter. The President doesn't have to give any reason at all for firing an Executive Branch officer.

Mueller used his report as a vehicle to spur the Dems in the House. By citing that he didn't have enough evidence to indict the President, he set things up so the House could pursue an impeachment, since "High Crimes and Misdemeanors is so nebulous.

I've read the entire report, and it's so poorly written, that if it had been a undergraduate senior-level thesis, it would have gotten an "F".

phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO

Bill P wrote:

How about telling brown skinned American citizens that they need to "Go back where they came from" because they look different and have unusual names.

Their skin color or manner of dress has nothing to do with the president's comment. That distinction comes only from the left talking points and your inability to determine the difference says much about your ability to actually understand the English language, but English may not be your first language.

btbg

Designdweeb wrote:

Three of the four are native-born, one arrived as a child fleeing from a much more worse situation. They want to make the U. S. a better place, not drag it down to the lowest common denominator of the world's most troubled regions.
He is a product of a privileged upbringing, isolated from reality, and playing the media and uninformed for the short-term benefit of corporations and the 1%.

How do you think that they want to make the U.S. a better place. Have you bothered to read Ocasio Cortez's Green New Deal. It would bankrupt the country while doing nothing to help the environment.

They all want Medcaide for all, who is going to pay for that? They want free college and all student loans paid off. Who is going to pay for that? They don't want to make the country better. They want to take your money and my money and give it to the groups of their choice.

If you can't see that then we have a problem. Trump should have kept his mouth shut but to say that they want to make our country better is way off the mark.

Two of the four are openly anti Jewish and racist in what they say. All four want democratic socialism. Look up the historical definition of what that is. That is the NAZI party in Germany. That is the current regime in Venezuela. They don't want what is in Sweden or Denmark, they want extremist policies that will radically redistribute wealth. How can you possibly listen to what they say and believe that they want to make America better?

Also, where they were born has very little to do with Trump's remarks. All of them come from immigrant families. All have ties to the countries that their families came from. Where they were born has nothing to do with Trump's point. His point is that if you don't love this country then there are alternatives. Their families all immigrated here for a better life.

Ocasio-Cortez is a perfect example of a family that moved here for the American Dream and they built it until her dad became ill. Even then they had enough funds to buy a house, send her to college and better themselves. That should have made her love our system because where else is there where you can enter a country with nothing and become something. So why are they trying to take down a system that has allowed them to become successful? It makes no sense. Trump was foolish to tweet about them, but listen to what they say. They are dangerous if people like you are willing to follow them.

phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO

btbg wrote:

How do you think that they want to make the U.S. a better place. Have you bothered to read Ocasio Cortez's Green New Deal. It would bankrupt the country while doing nothing to help the environment.

They all want Medcaide for all, who is going to pay for that? They want free college and all student loans paid off. Who is going to pay for that? They don't want to make the country better. They want to take your money and my money and give it to the groups of their choice.

If you can't see that then we have a problem. Trump should have kept his mouth shut but to say that they want to make our country better is way off the mark.

Two of the four are openly anti Jewish and racist in what they say. All four want democratic socialism. Look up the historical definition of what that is. That is the NAZI party in Germany. That is the current regime in Venezuela. They don't want what is in Sweden or Denmark, they want extremist policies that will radically redistribute wealth. How can you possibly listen to what they say and believe that they want to make America better?

Also, where they were born has very little to do with Trump's remarks. All of them come from immigrant families. All have ties to the countries that their families came from. Where they were born has nothing to do with Trump's point. His point is that if you don't love this country then there are alternatives. Their families all immigrated here for a better life.

Ocasio-Cortez is a perfect example of a family that moved here for the American Dream and they built it until her dad became ill. Even then they had enough funds to buy a house, send her to college and better themselves. That should have made her love our system because where else is there where you can enter a country with nothing and become something. So why are they trying to take down a system that has allowed them to become successful? It makes no sense. Trump was foolish to tweet about them, but listen to what they say. They are dangerous if people like you are willing to follow them.

How do you think that they want to make the U.S. a... (show quote)

Well stated, thank you

btbg

retap wrote:

Again, many of the above do not cite facts but cit... (show quote)

You may well be right about the split, but it can only be healed if the left backs off and agrees to follow the constitution rather than continuing to attempt to either ignore it or rewrite it through the courts.

when one group wants limited government and the other group wants medcaide for all, free college, forgiveness of student loans, the green new deal, etc.... there is no middle ground to stand on.

I want government out of my life, not controlling all of it. So do the rest of the conservatives on this site. There is no place to compromise anymore. If the left wins in 2020 our nation is doomed. Redistribution of wealth has never worked and it won't work now.

btbg

Designdweeb wrote:

Excuse me Mr. Designdweeb, exactly how does the sq... (show quote)

What are your sources?[/quote]

Lets start by addressing your absurd ideals about taxes.
Here are the stats.

The top 1 percent paid a greater share of individual income taxes (37.3 percent) than the bottom 90 percent combined (30.5 percent).
The top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97 percent of total individual income taxes.

How much more of the tax burden do you want a small group to pay? Flat taxes are fair. Sticking it to the rich is not.

I know you are saying to tax corporations. You do understand that the taxes that corporations pay come from one of two places. They either come from the company charging higher prices to consumers or from them lessening the dividends they pay to stock holders or both.

Either way the people you end up hurting when you increase taxes on corporations are the very people that you naively believe that you are helping. The poor who end up having to pay more for the goods and services that the corporations provide.

Now lets address social security, medicare and medicaide. If you had the money that social security stole from you and invested it in mutual funds you would be a multimillionaire by the time you are 55, 60 if you started working late because of college. Instead social security gives you back part of your money, but without the interest. In addition the 6 percent taken from your employer keeps wages from going up. Social security is a ponzi scheme. If you or I did something as dishonest as it is we would be in jail, but it's the government, and they have done such a good job of selling it that people won't even listen to what a huge scam it is.

As for the other things, medicare and medicaid are huge portions of the federal budget and what do we get for our money? not much really. Shoot once you are on medicare you still have to pay for supplemental insurance. Had the federal government stayed out of the health care business I could afford to pay for my full insurance plan. However, the AOC forced me to be covered for such things as pregnancy, and other ailments that as a male I could never get, thus raising my cost of insurance to cover something that I have no risk for so that it can supplement others. You may see no problem with that, but presumably you paid your own way throughout life. Now we are being asked to pay for other people who aren't responsible enough to take care of themselves, because that's exactly what medicaid does.

Fair wages for teachers? what are you talking about. Where else can you make as much as a teacher while working only nine months a year. Not to mention that school teachers at least in most cases have much better retirement plans than people in the private sector. Teachers made about $10,000 a year when I got my teaching certificate. Since then their pay has gone up much faster than the private sector.

In fact where I live teaching and government salaries have gone up and up, while the average worker makes no more than in the late 1980s. I made $20 an hour in a sawmill in the late 1980s, I make $14 an hour now. Yet you want to raise teachers salaries, taking even more tax dollars from my pocket.

As Reagan said big government is not the answer, it is the problem.

Angmo

Seem to me lefties are busy lying, name calling and doing stupid stuff and attacking republicans. Lefties do not want to make America Great Again.

Vote em all out.

btbg

Wuligal wrote:

Excuse me Mr. Designdweeb, exactly how does the sq... (show quote)

Good post. In his response designdweeb says that the rich don't build things like libraries, taxes do. He doesn't seem to understand that the top three percent of wage earners pay more than 37 percent of federal taxes and the top 50 percent pay 97 percent of taxes.

Obviously it is the rich who are building things like libraries. The poor not only don't pay taxes, they get refunds on taxes that they don't even pay, such as child tax credits.

For whatever reason we have a lot of people in our society who want a handout and far too many willing to give it to them, of course out of other peoples money.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Lemon Drop Kid wrote:

You are, of course, using "Trump Facts".... (show quote)

Trumps collusion is still under investigation? Hell even though the Mueller report completely exonerated Trump of collusion we all know there will be Liberal Democratic investigations about that topic well into the next century. Just as Hillary asked Trump if he would accept the results if he lost the election, it is really Hillary and the entire Leftist groups in the world who are STILL whining and bitching about Trump's win. Some on your side actually tell us Trump is not the real President and should not be occupying the White House. Hell, he seems to be doing the job of a real President, much better than Obama did for America.

Take a minute please and tell us where the crime of collusion is delineated, in what law book can I look up the crime of collusion and come up with the exact elements of the crime and how it relates to anything President Trump did to violate that well known codified law. I think we would all like to see it in print if you can show us.

In fact this whole Collusion horse shit was/is nothing but a Democratic ploy to keep Trump busy for years right up to the next election, trying to defend himself against something he did not do and for a crime which is non existent. How funny for Conservatives and absolutely hysterical for you Wingers that Trump was found completely innocent of...Oh yeah, Collusion and has become one America's most successful Presidents. Sucks to be a Leftist these days doesn't it. Trump's only crime is beating you unethical corrupt Democratic Socialists at your own game and doing it quite handily too. Go Trump. If you hurry you might be able to trade in your well used vagina cap and pacifier for a MAGA cap.

Dennis

Angmo

dennis2146 wrote:

Trumps collusion is still under investigation? He... (show quote)

Lemon Drop Kid Loc: Greeley, CO

Elaine2025 wrote:

Care to share exactly what you think Trump has "done" that is bad for Americans?

Now why would I do that? Everything I would list you would label as Fake News or the hallucinations of a closed-minded Democrat. I would make a correction however -- I am a registered Independent. Actually, voted for both Bushes, Ronald Reagan and many other Republicans, beginning with Thomas Dewey in 1948. (Yeah, I'm pretty old.)

No Elaine, there is no point of our continuing to trade tirades You believe what you do, and I believe what I do. Let's both just relax and see how things turn out.

Angmo

Lemon Drop Kid wrote:

Now why would I do that? Everything I would list y... (show quote)

So nothing then.