Romney's Energy Plan- Big Oil, Big Coal, and more lies- Bye, Bye America's Wildlands
Sep 2, 2012 11:44:30 #
Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
It's kind of like a special education teacher friend of mine explained to me about trying to teach certain mentally challenged children . Sometimes , you just can't.
greymule wrote:
Your insight is truly underwhelming.
gmcase wrote:
Another truck load of manure. Getting more than a little predictable. Yawn....
Your insight is truly underwhelming.
It's kind of like a special education teacher friend of mine explained to me about trying to teach certain mentally challenged children . Sometimes , you just can't.
Yawn.......
Sep 2, 2012 11:54:29 #
ted45 wrote:
Again Greymule pops up a totally undocumented lect... (show quote)
If you can't live in the environment , then what ? Big oil will not find clean energy until it's forced to , which might be a day past the tipping point.
Sep 2, 2012 12:26:56 #
It bothers me a great deal to see all the negative posts on the movement for opening more energy & mineral production - the environmentalists way over play the destruction card - when in truth the regulations on what it takes when a permit is given is monumental and has been working quite well. Go out in the feild of your choice and personal look at it - then make your decision.
I have had 3 areas close to my life - mining, logging & exploration core drilling and have seen massive improvement in those fields.
Just one thing - on logging - water sheds are protected by regulations & inspection - replanting & selective cutting are saving the forest - the only renewable resource there is.
Clean air programs are working and better filters & emission control equipment is being invented every year.
I have had 3 areas close to my life - mining, logging & exploration core drilling and have seen massive improvement in those fields.
Just one thing - on logging - water sheds are protected by regulations & inspection - replanting & selective cutting are saving the forest - the only renewable resource there is.
Clean air programs are working and better filters & emission control equipment is being invented every year.
Sep 2, 2012 13:29:35 #
Drigby1
Loc: American Fork, UT
I keep hearing one side say this release of oil and gas would damage parks. How much of those are actually in National Parks? The much quoted former President was not talking about energy, just that everyone should enjoy parks. Do you actually think the creator of this world would short us of needed energy? Not very smart or not a lot of faith. Tar sands, and shale oil alone could replace all of overseas oil. The old argument against them was that it was too expensive until oil reached $50.00 a barrel. Those days are long gone. I refute the idea that Romney would allow gas and oil to ruin national parks. Why do we want to stay under the power of the mid east? I wonder if some out there, besides those that just have a differing viewpoint are paid progressives(i.e. modern term for Communists). I have posted this site before on other topics but both sides need to see it. It comes from a representative of Congress from Idaho (Bowers). He went in undercover to a communist meeting in Berkley. Watch and then please think. See that the EPA was their own hope to destroy America through "science." At that time all other science was untouchable. Global warming political scams had not reared their ugly non scientific proof approach head. Don't forget to read the destructive goals at the bottom of the article.
http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/011/rae/revolution-2.htm
http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/011/rae/revolution-2.htm
Sep 2, 2012 13:36:18 #
Drigby1
Loc: American Fork, UT
Here is part one also.
http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/011/rae/revolution-1.htm
http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/011/rae/revolution-1.htm
Sep 2, 2012 17:22:45 #
Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
quote=ted45 Again Greymule pops up a totally undo... (show quote)
If you study history you will find that there have been times when living in the enviornment was almost impossible. Turn of the century London was so polluted that breathing was a major problem. City life in the US got a bad reputation due to the foul air generated by horses and horseless carriages. At one time the Chesapeake Bay was almost devoid of marine life. Take a ride through the coal producing areas of Kentucky and Pennsylvania and look at what has been done by the coal companies to clean up their act. Look at the true safety record of the Nuclear industry. We as a people have demanded a cleaner enviornment and American business being what it is has delivered. I know if you study what is going on in China or South America right now, you will not find an improving enviornment. Do you really believe the global winds will allow China to keep its' pollution at home?
The money being spent on these "new" methods of energy may some day pay off, but it won't be tomorrow. We have tried and proven energy sources that are continuly being improved that we can use now. The fact that someone drills for oil doesn't automattically mean a snail darter is going to be killed. Our energy producers have been very inventive in finding ways to satisfy our enviornmental concerns.
Do you know how many people world wide are starving because of the shift of corn production into bio fuel? Ethenol has proven to be a "green energy" source that has been deadly to many.
Sep 2, 2012 18:48:39 #
actually Greymule, WE would all benefit from oil exploration and production. as for coal. I am a miner here in our beautiful state. yes the same one you reside in! for all the coal taken out there is 3/4ths more we cant take!!!!!!! it is mind boggling. if you are truly interested in learning the TRUTH, please come over to the Western Slope and ask for a tour. the mines would enjoy taking you on one!!!! natural gas isn't the answer either. solar, wind, etc. has been with us for over 75 years! do you not think it would have been developed farther along than it is, if it really was viable?
Sep 2, 2012 21:16:53 #
greymule wrote:
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Sep 3, 2012 07:35:04 #
Sep 3, 2012 19:24:08 #
BboH wrote:
To carry the enviormentalist concept forward - peddal as if you are riding bicycle, flail your arms as if you are swimming to generate air to relieve the heat. Do the same in the winter to generate bodily heat to keep warm. Take shelter in the tall grass but don't break a stem or tread on an insect.
Do you have proof that negates the "environmentalist('s) concept" claims?
Instead of insults or jibes, try to enlighten to win others to your view.
And just for logic's sake: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF_anaVcCXg&feature=relmfu
Sep 4, 2012 10:03:07 #
rayford2
Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
I'm all for new gas and oil exploration as long as the product stays in the U.S and not exported.
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