ted45 wrote:
Again Greymule pops up a totally undocumented lecture based on his liberal bias.
According to a report issued by the US Senate on August 1, 2012 the global warming alarmist movement has collapsed under the weight of actual science.
http://ossfoundation.us/projects/environment/global-warming/summary-docs/leading-edge/2012/aug-the-leading-edgeThe problem with the green energy movement is that they want us to give up proven energy systems and use unproven, mostly experimental systems. Where does the energy come from to manufacture those wonderful wind turbines?
Quote: The American Wind Energy Association, the industry's main lobby group, suggests that as many as 37,000 jobs could be lost if the tax credit is not renewed. How is that possible when you look at the facts: GE Energy is the largest domestic wind turbine manufacturer. In 2010, the wind power industry in the US received 42% ($4.986 billion) of all federal subsidies for electricity generation. GE is the only US manufacturer in the top ten list. Who runs GE?
Top 10 wind turbine manufacturers by annual market share (installed capacity) in 2011 by IHS Inc.
1. Vestas 12.7% - Denmark
2. Sinovel 9.0% - China
3. Goldwind 8.7% - China
4. Gamesa 8.0% - Spain
5. Enercon 7.8% - Germany
6. GE Wind Energy 7.7% - United States
7. Suzlon Group 7.6% (inc Suzlon Energy (India) and REpower (Germany))
8. Guodian United Power 7.4% - China
9. Siemens Wind Power 6.3% - Germany and Denmark
10. Ming Yang 3.6% - China
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wind_turbine_manufacturersWhere is your concern for the American jobs lost in the coal and oil industry? Are those workers unimportant to you? What about the hardship of increased energy costs on the poor or the 99% that you liberals are so concerned about?
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/06/08/coal-regs-would-kill-jobs-boost-energy-billsMaybe we can give them all Chevy Volts that can be driven up to 40 miles on electric power unless they want to fill up the gas tank with the dreaded fossil fuel. Are Volts manufactured using only wind power?
We will use new energy sources when they become available, affordable and practical.
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Are you stupid, or what? My post was about the lack of any new ideas for Mitty, the rich boy in big coal and oil's pocket.
This Neanderthal thinking. The world uses ~ 1,100,000,000 gallons of oil each and every day. It is a finite resource.
Why all the tax breaks for big oil?
Oil and Gas Tax Breaks: $2.4 billion a year
Like the percentage depletion allowance just described, the oil depletion allowance lets certain companies deduct 15% of the gross income they derive from oil and gas wells from their taxable incomes, and continue to do that for as long as those wells are still producing. Some smaller companies get to increase the deduction by 1% for every dollar the price of oil falls below $20 a barrel.
This tax break, on which we lose about $1 billion a year, can add up to many times the cost of the original exploration and drilling. In fact, it formerly could amount to 100% of the company's profits-in which case the company paid no taxes, no matter how much money it made. Presently this is capped at 65% of profits.
The rationale for this loophole is that it encourages exploration for new oil-presumably something no oil company would otherwise do. Oil industry executives argue that other businesses are allowed to depreciate the costs of their manufacturing investments. That's true, but they're only allowed to take off the actual cost of those assets, not deduct 15% of their gross income virtually forever.
Introduced in 1926, the oil depletion allowance was restricted in 1975 to independent oil companies that don't refine or import oil. To make up for this, the larger, integrated companies were given the intangible drilling cost deduction, which in some ways is even better.
It lets them deduct 70% of the cost of setting up a drilling operation in the year those expenses occur, rather than having to depreciate them over the expected life of the well. The other 30% they can take off over the next five years. This boondoggle costs us about $500 million a year.
A third tax break is the enhanced oil recovery credit. It encourages oil companies to go after reserves that are more expensive to extract-like those that have nearly been depleted, or that contain especially thick crude oil. The net effect of this credit, which costs us $500 million a year, is that we pay almost twice as much for gasoline made from domestic oil as we do for gas made from foreign oil.
Together, these three loopholes sometimes exceed 100% of the value of the energy produced by that oil. In other words, it would be cheaper in some cases for the government to just buy gasoline from the companies and give it to taxpayers free of charge.
(Of course, without the tax breaks, the oil companies would charge more for gasoline, bringing our prices closer to other countries'. This would undoubtedly lower our per capita consumption of gasoline, which is currently the highest in the world.)
There's a fourth tax break we can't count because we can't estimate its size; for details on it, see the section on "master limited partnerships" in the chapter called What we've left out. But miscellaneous smaller tax breaks and subsidies add an additional $400 million a year to the oil industry's wealthfare, which brings the total to $2.4 billion.
Instead of throwing $2.4 billion a year at the oil companies, we could encourage them to cut down on waste during production and transport. Each year, the equivalent of a thousand Exxon Valdez spills is lost due to inefficient refining, leaking wells and storage tanks, spills at oil fields and from tankers and pipelines, evaporative losses, un-recycled motor oil and the like.
The current oil and gas tax breaks encourage the use of fossil fuels at the expense of cleaner alternatives, reward drilling in environmentally sensitive areas like wetlands and estuaries, and artificially attract to the oil industry investment money that could be used more productively in other areas of the economy.
Take the Rich Off Welfare
The BLM is selling our coal at $.25 per ton.
I don't believe the post was about jobs, but about a progressive energy policy- A policy that rich boy doesn't have.
I don't believe the post was about global warming, either. At least not directly.
Here is your report preamble- Sounds scientific to me, and not partisan.
I must say it feels like we're back to the good old days. It may be hard to believe, but it was in February of 2009, during the height of the global warming alarmist movement, that this committee last held a hearing on global warming science. Back then we heard promises from the Obama administration of a clean energy revolution with green jobs propped up by billions in taxpayer dollars to companies like Solyndra.
What came of all those promises? The global warming movement has completely collapsed and cap-and-trade is dead and gone.
I suspect a look back over the past three years will be a little painful for my friends on the other side. In 2009 with a Democratic President, and overwhelming Democratic majorities in the House and the Senate, global warming alarmists were on top of the world - they thought they would finally reach their goal of an international agreement that would eliminate fossil fuels. Yet the Waxman-Markey cap-and-trade bill didn't happen.
Of course, what drove the collapse of the global warming movement was that the science of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) was finally exposed. For years I had warned that the United Nations was a political body, not a scientific body - and finally the mainstream media took notice:
New York Times editorial: "Given the stakes, the IPCC cannot allow more missteps and, at the very least, must tighten procedures and make its deliberations more transparent. The panel's chairman...is under fire for taking consulting fees from business interests..." (February 17, 2010)
The Washington Post: "Recent revelations about flaws in that seminal IPCC report, ranging from typos in key dates to sloppy sourcing, are undermining confidence not only in the panel's work but also in projections about climate change.
Newsweek: "Some of the IPCC's most-quoted data and recommendations were taken straight out of unchecked activist brochures, newspaper articles..."
UK Daily Telegraph on Climategate: "The worst scientific scandal of our generation."
Just how unpopular is the global warming movement now? The Washington Post recently published a poll revealing that Americans no longer worry about global warming and one of the reasons is because they don't trust the scientists' motivations.
The IPCC has even lost the trust of the left. Andrew Revkin of the New York Times recently called for IPCC chair Pachauri to make a choice between global warming activism and leading the IPCC. They are also saying similar things about global warming alarmist James Hansen. As David Roberts of Grist acknowledged, Hansen has "become so politicized that people tend to dismiss him."
Just one look at this committee and we can see how bad things have gotten for the alarmists: today there are no federal witnesses here to testify about the grave dangers of global warming. President Obama himself never dares to mention global warming and some on the left have noticed: Bill McKibben recently criticized the President for not attending the Rio + 20 sustainability conference noting that, "Unlike George H.W. Bush, who flew in for the first conclave, Barack Obama didn't even attend."
It must be very hard for my friends on the left to watch the President who promised he would slow the rise of the oceans posing in front of pipelines in my home state of Oklahoma pretending to support oil and gas.
I imagine they are trying to keep quiet because they know President Obama is still moving forward with his global warming agenda - he just doesn't want the American people to know about it.
Now what the American people don't know: President Obama is doing through his bureaucracy what he couldn't do legislatively. He is spending billions of taxpayer dollars on his global warming agenda. We've already identified $68 billion.
Today we should have a fascinating debate. I want to thank climatologist Dr. John Christy for appearing before the Committee to provide his insights. I am also looking forward to the testimony of Dr. Margo Thorning, a noted economist who will discuss the economic pain of the Obama EPA's current regulations.
We've been through this now for the past 3 ½ years and the results are clear: President Obama's green energy agenda has been a disaster. The time has come to put these tired, failed policies to rest and embrace the US energy boom so that we can put Americans back to work, turn this economy around, become totally energy independent from the Middle East, and ensure energy security for years to come.
Does this sound like the GOP misinformation machine to you??
It does to me.
You morons will get exactly what you deserve. I hope you enjoy it.