Please cite your source for this assertion: "But for the utmost quality and detail, most pros still rely on the good old film!"
From what this photographer understands of the recent history of photography, digital means surpassed film means about a decade ago. In turn, most all pros have turned to digital means of photography. Technological advance in doing photography has meant improvement in image quality as well as far more control over the captured image. Both my reading of magazines, books, and online presentations tells me so.
Hence, the medium of film has become obsolescent. It now fills a niche in photography not unlike earlier means of this human activity. So we can expect film photography to continue in the hands of individuals who prefer it for their own good reasons.
speters wrote:
They have been around for years and years, also 200mp and 400mp cameras. They pretty much eliminate the limits that are given by lower resolution cameras and the following postprocessing. But for the utmost quality and detail, most pros still rely on the good old film!
karno
Loc: Chico ,California
A cellphone costs 1000 dollars these days!! They have more computing power then lunar landings had who needs it right?
You could say no one, but millions own them!
Some people like tech and it is being brought to us and many want to push those limits.
Those who compare a 800 horse power car to a high mp camera is way off base, a camera is much less dangerous and much less expensive.
12 mp ? Come on really that’s so yesterday
rmalarz wrote:
They're fantastic and fantastically expensive. I'm experimenting with a 200+ MP image system, but it has limitations. However,, a lot less expensive than what's out there now. The other downside is that I've produced an image too large for PS to handle.
--Bob
You do realize that 1GB and larger files should / must be saved as 16-bit PSB files and not 16-bit PSD or TIFF. Unless you want to work with compositing 8-bit JPEGs. I've made huge composite stitched panoramas and grids. I'm not sure how large programs other than Ps can go. With my Win 10, Ps CS6 and 32GB RAM PC I can go mighty huge! For use I usually "trim" those monsters down in resolution.
GeorgeL wrote:
Any thoughts on the Fujifilm gfx100 or phase one 100 plus mp Camaras? Why and when is such a high mp needed ?
Big cameras have been used throughout the ages (of photography that is) The larger the film, or sensor in this case, the larger and more detailed the photo can be. Just sayin'. Fujifilm isn't the first medium format DSLR and it won't be the last. If it weren't so darned expensive and if it shot more than just 5fps and if they had more than just 2 lenses available for this camera I would buy one. Sorry, that's a lot of ands in one sentence.
rmalarz wrote:
If I recall correctly, the SR-71 camera system could resolve 6" from an altitude of 80,000ft, doing that while traveling at 2000 some MPH.
--Bob
That is probably correct. When comparing film to digital one has to specify the format or size of the film or sensor. Comparing APS-C digital to 11x14" film like Edward Weston used makes no sense. Aerial cameras were typically 70mm or 90mm roll (sprocketed) film I believe. So yes, likely have more resolution than most digital cameras.
Doesn’t it get down to the density of photosites per sq mm of sensor? Isn’t a 100mp sensor going to have a larger area such as a medium format? What if one was simply to put together an array of say 20mp FF sensors...
PGHphoto wrote:
My biggest thought is how long it would take for me to master it. When looking for a Canon 5DIV a year ago, I came upon a ridiculously inexpensive - used - 5DS (50mp). It has taken me almost a year to get to the same level of proficiency that I have with my 5DII. The additional mp's show even the slightest movement and higher shutter speeds than 'normal' are required to get a sharp photo. I often shoot the long end my 150-500 Sigma handheld at 1/400th and get super sharp results with my 5DII. The the 5DS, requires at least 1/800 to get marginally acceptable handheld. Which usually means higher ISO is needed also.
The noise from the high ISO tends also to be more pronounced at low light levels but this can be managed. I had to micro calibrate all my lenses to the body because even a slight back focus issue caused noticeable lack of sharpness at what should have been the focus point. This can be mitigated by figuring hyperfocal distance and shooting accordingly in some cases but for detail it was hard to get focus right.
PP also is slightly different and a larger/denser monitor comes in really handy along with more memory and more/faster cores. Then there is some limits to what Lightroom can do when making panoramas - tried to do an 11 panel panorama recently and after 2 hours of trying, Lightroom just gave up and shut itself down.
I know there are others who probably did not experience these issues but for me, its been an adventure. I see light at the end of the tunnel now for my 5DS struggles but couldn't imagine how much more involved it would be to 'learn to shoot' a 100mp camera.
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But the typical car is maybe 150-200 horsepower today...that my very well relate to a 10 or 12mp camera...
karno wrote:
A cellphone costs 1000 dollars these days!! They have more computing power then lunar landings had who needs it right?
You could say no one, but millions own them!
Some people like tech and it is being brought to us and many want to push those limits.
Those who compare a 800 horse power car to a high mp camera is way off base, a camera is much less dangerous and much less expensive.
12 mp ? Come on really that’s so yesterday
lamiaceae wrote:
You do realize that 1GB and larger files should / must be saved as 16-bit PSB files and not 16-bit PSD or TIFF. Unless you want to work with compositing 8-bit JPEGs. I've made huge composite stitched panoramas and grids. I'm not sure how large programs other than Ps can go. With my Win 10, Ps CS6 and 32GB RAM PC I can go mighty huge! For use I usually "trim" those monsters down in resolution.
Now I have something to look into on a (another) rainy day. What in the world is a PSB file. Thanks
olemikey
Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
camerapapi wrote:
Anybody can be happy with a 12 Mp. camera. Ask owners of D3 and D700 bodies.
My 12.3MP D90 doesn't have the newer bells and whistles, but still takes a very fine photo, my 10MP Sony still takes fine photos. The newer 20-24MP cameras I have see a bit more action, but my older rigs still do quite well. No complaints here.....
GeorgeL wrote:
Any thoughts on the Fujifilm gfx100 or phase one 100 plus mp Camaras? Why and when is such a high mp needed ?
Look around you.most people on this web site are pixel chasers! 12 was awesome then 16 then 20 then 24 now what 35-47! 90 percent of people don’t need over 16-20 mega pixels. Good photographers will continue to make wonderful photos with 16-20 pixels. The rest? Just continue to chase them pixels
Gene51 wrote:
Commercial product and fashion photography mostly. Hard to justify the expense otherwise.
Even then, so much advertising is now in the digital format that 100 MP is probably overkill. Some want to print LARGE and may be able to use all the field of view without enlarging, but I just do not see 100 MP in my future.
$10,000 body only is a little out of my price range.
Also, if you are blowing up to huge sizes, it's necessary. I used to produce photos for those huge posters in the airports with a Hasselblad, and even that wasn't really big enough. A 100MP digital would be great for that.
think scientific applications, extreme macro, architecture, geo-mapping, high fashion, product detail, and others.
speters wrote:
...But for the utmost quality and detail, most pros still rely on the good old film!
Any support for that surprising claim?
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