Starting to print
May 20, 2019 11:47:04 #
May 20, 2019 12:00:26 #
Thank you for your long description of printing for good results. It may sound daunting to others.
But as an experienced photographer who has set up his own printer operation and done quality printing (landscape and portraits) on custom papers from both Epson and third parties, I can attest that you have pretty much said it all in your text.
I can recommend that any person doing or proposing to do his own printing to copy and print out for reference your text here.
Thanks for taking the time to share your practical experience on this central subject in photography.
But as an experienced photographer who has set up his own printer operation and done quality printing (landscape and portraits) on custom papers from both Epson and third parties, I can attest that you have pretty much said it all in your text.
I can recommend that any person doing or proposing to do his own printing to copy and print out for reference your text here.
Thanks for taking the time to share your practical experience on this central subject in photography.
burkphoto wrote:
At a large commercial photo lab, 2000–2005, I mana... (show quote)
May 20, 2019 12:09:20 #
anotherview wrote:
Thank you for your long description of printing fo... (show quote)
You're welcome! I had input from some of the best digital imaging minds in the industry back in the late 1990s through 2010 or so. ICC color management practices are really what made high quality digital imaging possible. The work of countless engineers, photographers, developers, and suppliers made it happen.
I got to witness the digital revolution at DIMA conferences (Digital Imaging Marketing Association, once part of the now-defunct Photo Marketing Association International) and at Kodak Professional Imaging Conferences (before they went "belly up"). The key folks who made it happen were all there, and taught us how to make it work.
May 20, 2019 13:01:41 #
IF you're just starting out, I can recommend the Canon Pixma Pro 100- not only does it produce excellent prints up to 13x19, it is a frequent promo item with purchase of a Canon camera. I've got two of them and paid about $50 each after a annoying rebate procedure. Anyway - look at your local Craig's list for one that has been purchased with a camera and the buyer doesn't want/need the printer. Should be about $100-$150 in a sealed box (missing the UPC code for the rebate). Excellent color, expensive ink but reasonable capacity, can print on cd/dvd and good software support in photoshop, illustrator etc.
May 20, 2019 13:20:02 #
burkphoto wrote:
At a large commercial photo lab, 2000–2005, I mana... (show quote)
What a great post, Bill. Thank you for sharing all this information with us!
May 20, 2019 13:30:52 #
Your personal involvement in the digital printing method gives you the voice of experience. It's like history talking to us. I thank you again, and others should, too. We owe it to those individuals who went before us to bridge photography from film to the digital age, printing and display included.
burkphoto wrote:
You're welcome! I had input from some of the best ... (show quote)
May 20, 2019 13:37:44 #
will47 wrote:
I am considering starting to print. The research I have done so far leads me to believe I will use either Epsom or Canon. Specific models would be helpful, but I have another question about these printers. If I use either of these, and if I only use that manufacturers printing paper do I need to be concerned about printing profiles? I use PC CC and only shoot in RAW. Some black and white conversion photo's and all Canon equipment.
I have printed all of my photographs for several years now, many of which go into shows and win awards. I only go to an outside printer if I need a very large print. There is an art to printing your own work. I use Epson but I'm sure there are other printers that do an equally good job of laying down ink. I ALWAYS use the correct ICC profile for the paper I am using. I do use paper from other manufacturers, mostly Red River, and when I do that I download the correct ICC profile from the Red River website. One thing that might be good for you to do, especially in the beginning, is to load smaller paper, for example, 4 x 6 paper, and print on that as a proof copy. Then you can make corrections as needed. Additionally, you might consider using the print proofing option in whatever software you use; this allows you to determine out of gamut colors for specific papers and to see what each paper does to the image. Fewer surprises this way. Paper can make a huge difference in the end result. And, it's important to understand printing sizes and how the printed size will fit the mat of your choice. Just my thoughts on the subject.
May 20, 2019 13:38:54 #
will47 wrote:
I am considering starting to print. The research I have done so far leads me to believe I will use either Epsom or Canon. Specific models would be helpful, but I have another question about these printers. If I use either of these, and if I only use that manufacturers printing paper do I need to be concerned about printing profiles? I use PC CC and only shoot in RAW. Some black and white conversion photo's and all Canon equipment.
No, with uploading the printer driver to the computer, it's already in there! The printer will recognize the "in-house" profiles automatically!
Keeping up with current updates, this will be true for future papers as well!
May 20, 2019 18:17:32 #
will47 wrote:
I am considering starting to print. The research I have done so far leads me to believe I will use either Epsom or Canon. Specific models would be helpful, but I have another question about these printers. If I use either of these, and if I only use that manufacturers printing paper do I need to be concerned about printing profiles? I use PC CC and only shoot in RAW. Some black and white conversion photo's and all Canon equipment.
Epson P800, but beware that each of the nine carts costs $55.00.
May 20, 2019 19:41:07 #
Just remember, if you plan on selling your work, third party inks do not have the longevity of OEM. Fading may occur sooner with third party inks. Having said that, frame it under glass, and use a protective spray.
Get on Jose Rodriguez's website. He does testing with Precision Color inks that are made in the US. Probably the best third party inks for the Canon Pro-100. They just came out with a new formula. which Jose is testing this week. The owner of the company provides ICC profiles for numerous papers. stay tuned. You have to do your own refilling, and buy cheap $6 carts.
Get on Jose Rodriguez's website. He does testing with Precision Color inks that are made in the US. Probably the best third party inks for the Canon Pro-100. They just came out with a new formula. which Jose is testing this week. The owner of the company provides ICC profiles for numerous papers. stay tuned. You have to do your own refilling, and buy cheap $6 carts.
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