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Apr 11, 2019 12:57:27   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
Tim, the first image of Starena would be more appealing to me if "Yoni" were not glaring back at me so prominently, although in this shot I can almost look at the rest of image and say, "Not bad."

The pose is clearly an erotic display of "Here I am; do me; I am ready...", etc, and it really is all about Yoni and not Starena.

Obviously, a particular pout on a mere headshot can also convey that invitation, but the image gets more spicy, hot, inviting, sexy, erotic as more body parts are displayed (as in implied nude shots) and revealed (partly hidden or fully exposed breasts, buttocks, etc).

I am all for erotic imagery, right up to the point that Yoni jumps out at me and says, "Forget everything else in this image... look at me... just me."

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Apr 11, 2019 13:11:48   #
ghill42 Loc: Colorado
 
Great, now that's the kind of writing that comes with credibility. Thanks for sending it.

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Apr 11, 2019 13:20:33   #
Rich2236 Loc: E. Hampstead, New Hampshire
 
Timmers wrote:
5 each.


The first image would be extremely more beautiful if not for one aspect of the picture, ie: the cigarette!!! As one of my art professors told us: "one of the most beautiful things in nature, if not the most, is the female figure." So what if a woman's minor labia extend/protrude out from the major. It is part of a woman's body and in my opinion, one of the most beautiful parts, especially when it extends outward. I look forward to viewing more images like the first one of this series. (Not saying the rest of the series is bad...all the pictures in this series is excellent !!! BUT:

Cigarettes are an insidiously dangerous habit. And to me, showing them in a picture, makes me feel like it is an invitation to partake. So there, now you have another viewpoint. LOL. Take it for what it is.
Rich...

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Apr 11, 2019 14:01:54   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
ghill42 wrote:
Great, now that's the kind of writing that comes with credibility. Thanks for sending it.


If you don’t quote the post to which you are replying, the rest of us don’t know to whom you are responding.

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Apr 11, 2019 14:49:52   #
Pilot
 
dpullum wrote:
John, the cigarette is there for white balance calibration or to give you an excuse not to see the suggestion of flowering labia. You're suggesting that henceforth nude shots should have the inner labia [minora] tucked in the labia [majora] external. Personally, I think that flowering labia are most beautiful and the source of great pleasure to both man and woman.

Indeed a wonderful series....


Labia [majora]? Aw shucks, I thought that was foreskin [prepuce].

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Apr 11, 2019 15:08:46   #
nikonwaddy
 
Is the term "yoni" very familiar to everybody here. I have seen it written maybe once before but never spoken. It may be from different parts of the country and is certainly not how we reference that wonderful part of feminine anatomy down here in Texas.

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Apr 11, 2019 17:07:40   #
InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA
 
JohnFrim wrote:
Tim, the first image of Starena would be more appealing to me if "Yoni" were not glaring back at me so prominently, although in this shot I can almost look at the rest of image and say, "Not bad."

The pose is clearly an erotic display of "Here I am; do me; I am ready...", etc, and it really is all about Yoni and not Starena.

Obviously, a particular pout on a mere headshot can also convey that invitation, but the image gets more spicy, hot, inviting, sexy, erotic as more body parts are displayed (as in implied nude shots) and revealed (partly hidden or fully exposed breasts, buttocks, etc).

I am all for erotic imagery, right up to the point that Yoni jumps out at me and says, "Forget everything else in this image... look at me... just me."
Tim, the first image of Starena would be more appe... (show quote)


John,

You absolutely take the cake. I showed my wife the photo in question and let her read your comment and she stated it might be time for another sign-bearing snapshot. Her responses are as follows (paraphrased and edited for language)

1. Let me get this straight, posing with your lips visible is an open invitation for sex?
2. If a photographer has a problem with "outies", how does he screen his models, ask for a close-up shot of her bits before he books her?
3. Asking anyone to tuck in anything when they are posing nude is over the line.
4. I almost need a magnifying glass to see those, if he thinks they're the focus of the photo, he has a problem.
5. Just how old is this guy, is he still married?
6. If this guy is hung up on seeing lips, why is he telling every one?

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Apr 11, 2019 18:10:19   #
nikonwaddy
 
JohnFrim Please tell your wonderful bride how absolutely astute and correct she is. What an insight she, and you, have. I can imagine her real words....

Thanks to the both of you for a connection to reality, a commodity that seems to be getting rarer all the time..

Well done folks...never give up on the real un-spun world......

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Apr 11, 2019 20:50:26   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
... it might be time for another sign-bearing snapshot
OMG... NO! I’d hate to imagine what it might show!!!
InfiniteISO wrote:
1. Let me get this straight, posing with your lips visible is an open invitation for sex?
No, you have misinterpreted my opinion. Try reading it again.
InfiniteISO wrote:
2. If a photographer has a problem with "outies", how does he screen his models, ask for a close-up shot of her bits before he books her?
The “outies” are only an issue if they are going to be visible. There ARE options for posing... As a photographer, would you shoot a portrait of someone with a large and crooked nose with a wide angle lens? Would you shoot them in profile? With a bit of planning a good photographer would back away, use a moderate tele lens, and choose an angle that minimizes the proboscis’ prominence, or use an accessory prop that could hide it a bit.
InfiniteISO wrote:
3. Asking anyone to tuck in anything when they are posing nude is over the line.
Not required; see answer above.
InfiniteISO wrote:
4. I almost need a magnifying glass to see those, if he thinks they're the focus of the photo, he has a problem.
I kinda gave Tim a pass on his photo because they are a minor distraction. For LAShooter and his fishnet photo the labia were the only focal point.
InfiniteISO wrote:
5. Just how old is this guy, is he still married?
Old enough to know what I like, happily married, and not sexually deprived or depraved to have to get my jollies on UHH.
InfiniteISO wrote:
6. If this guy is hung up on seeing lips, why is he telling every one?
I am expressing my opinion on photography and some of the elements of the image that are within the photographer’s control.

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Apr 11, 2019 22:58:12   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
Rich2236 wrote:
The first image would be extremely more beautiful if not for one aspect of the picture, ie: the cigarette!!! As one of my art professors told us: "one of the most beautiful things in nature, if not the most, is the female figure." So what if a woman's minor labia extend/protrude out from the major. It is part of a woman's body and in my opinion, one of the most beautiful parts, especially when it extends outward. I look forward to viewing more images like the first one of this series. (Not saying the rest of the series is bad...all the pictures in this series is excellent !!! BUT:

Cigarettes are an insidiously dangerous habit. And to me, showing them in a picture, makes me feel like it is an invitation to partake. So there, now you have another viewpoint. LOL. Take it for what it is.
Rich...
The first image would be extremely more beautiful ... (show quote)


Rich2236 well yes it is a great truth. It is difficult to get people to understand this because we can't go about showing what the effects are. Working in the Pathology Dept at MD Anderson I got to photography a display in a plex box of a smokers lungs. But you can't show such things to the public, they get bent out of shape.

The Cigarette in her hand is a prop echoing back to an old illustration. Starena would never smoke the things people smoke. It was funny, she asked if it was to be lit and I explained what the purpose of the image was and she was ok with it.

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Apr 11, 2019 23:07:10   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
JohnFrim wrote:
I am expressing my opinion on photography and some of the elements of the image that are within the photographer’s control.


Lets not be harsh with the Frim. His posts can be a strange form of critique some times but I am beginning to understand that he does not have a mean agenda, he just has a casual disregard for what seems poor taste.

Often the images I do fall outside the more conservative view of the world. I simply have no interest in taste, good or bad, it holds no merits sense about pre WW I times.

So just lighten up on the Frim, he is in a world that is not mine or some of the others on here. It's why I visit the Hog, it is like the old photo forums.

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Apr 11, 2019 23:13:01   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
nikonwaddy wrote:
Is the term "yoni" very familiar to everybody here. I have seen it written maybe once before but never spoken. It may be from different parts of the country and is certainly not how we reference that wonderful part of feminine anatomy down here in Texas.


I learned the phrase yoni and decided to use it. Serena introduced the use of the term to me and explained that it represented the totality of the female sexual organ. Sort of a generic phrase rather than some part of a woman's genitals. It is also some what 'neutral' while other phrases carry other connotations. Plus, it has a feminine sound to it and does not appear crude, nor condescending.

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Apr 11, 2019 23:23:43   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
Google is your friend...

Yoni is a Sanskrit word that has been interpreted to literally mean the womb, and the female organs of generation. It also connotes the female sexual organs such as "vagina", "vulva", and "uterus", or alternatively to "origin, abode, or source" of anything in other contexts.
Yoni - Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoni

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Apr 12, 2019 09:53:30   #
nikonwaddy
 
Thanks to all explaining "Yoni". That term and "Flowering Labia" have sure been an education....;~)

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Apr 12, 2019 14:44:19   #
twr25 Loc: New Jersey
 
Very nice setup and poses, great model and excellent backlighting. I like the body stocking on the model; labia and all! But I agree its a bit too underexposed for my taste. This debate over protrusion is why women are going to labiaplasty procedures … labia shaming LOL I can understand if they "hang" or cause problems or pain; otherwise, they are natural and beautiful. (mostly)

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