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Dec 29, 2012 14:47:51   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
I shot the pic of Hanna over the summer and if you look where her face is close to the wood there is carry over color from her face onto the wood and vice versa. This was shot in the shade with the sun off to my left at about 10:00. The 2nd shot was of my great granddaughter with her mothers hand and if you look along the top of mom's hand the same thing happened. This was shot W/O flash and natural lighting. Any idea what may be causing this?? I'm going back down to shoot some more of my GGD as she wasn't feeling the best on the day I was there so hopefully I can find a way to eliminate this carry over---any help is appreciated...........

Hanna
Hanna...

Baby J
Baby J...

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Dec 29, 2012 19:32:25   #
Lens Cap Loc: The Cold North Coast
 
coco1964, #1 is a beutiful shot....I don't see the carryover you speak of....One question...did you PP her face to soften the look of the skin or is that natural of the younger skin?

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Dec 29, 2012 23:42:55   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
Lens Cap wrote:
coco1964, #1 is a beutiful shot....I don't see the carryover you speak of....One question...did you PP her face to soften the look of the skin or is that natural of the younger skin?
If you look at the wood next to her forehead it has a flesh tone to it. Although I did some softening of sharp lines that is her skin. She is a beautiful young lady and only 13 years old. I would like to get out and shoot some winter shots of her but it's around 20 for the high and predicted to get colder. She is also very active in sports so schedule conflicts don't help. Next summer I have her and another 16 year old sweetheart who's agreed to let me shoot her. Ahhhhh yes the beauty of youth.......

Hanna 040
Hanna 040...

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Dec 30, 2012 01:46:17   #
jdubu Loc: San Jose, CA
 
I see a bit of what concerns you, but seems to be just light reflected color. By moving her forward of the wood, you would eliminate a lot of that color reflection.

What is more obvious and requiring attention is the green contamination you are getting on the faces, hand and neck in the posted portraits. I am not sure if it is light reflecting off grass or is it post processing?

The green to me should be your first concern. In the first post, it also seems to be in her hairline, which is darker than the other portrait.

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Dec 30, 2012 07:21:17   #
GHK Loc: The Vale of Eden
 
coco1964 wrote:
I shot the pic of Hanna over the summer and if you look where her face is close to the wood there is carry over color from her face onto the wood and vice versa. This was shot in the shade with the sun off to my left at about 10:00. The 2nd shot was of my great granddaughter with her mothers hand and if you look along the top of mom's hand the same thing happened. This was shot W/O flash and natural lighting. Any idea what may be causing this?? I'm going back down to shoot some more of my GGD as she wasn't feeling the best on the day I was there so hopefully I can find a way to eliminate this carry over---any help is appreciated...........
I shot the pic of Hanna over the summer and if you... (show quote)


You are very perceptive; many people would not even notice these effects, let alone worry about them.
What is happening is perfectly natural; we view things by the light they reflect, and what we see is affected by the colour of the light striking the subject. This is normally just the ambient light, but, when there is a highly coloured object nearby, it can throw a second colour onto the subject, which will also be reflected and affect what you see.
If you feel that the small effects shown damage your image, and there is no reason why you shouldn't (some people are far too casual about what they are willing to accept) the best way out is to be very careful about the presence of objects which might act a secondary light sources.

GHK

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Dec 30, 2012 07:51:40   #
Kinopless Loc: Mandurah, Western Australia
 
Great images, I'd be proud to have taken them, well done.
ps, Forget any small color cast, unnoticeable to 99% of the population..

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Dec 30, 2012 10:31:04   #
clicktime Loc: Yucca Valley Ca.
 
If you use a little off camera fill flash it will get rid of the color cast on her skin. This can be corrected in PP by selecting the area on the skin and making a adjustment layer and reducing the color green/ yellow till it is gone.

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Dec 30, 2012 10:59:27   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
coco1964 wrote:
I shot the pic of Hanna over the summer and if you look where her face is close to the wood there is carry over color from her face onto the wood and vice versa. This was shot in the shade with the sun off to my left at about 10:00. The 2nd shot was of my great granddaughter with her mothers hand and if you look along the top of mom's hand the same thing happened. This was shot W/O flash and natural lighting. Any idea what may be causing this?? I'm going back down to shoot some more of my GGD as she wasn't feeling the best on the day I was there so hopefully I can find a way to eliminate this carry over---any help is appreciated...........
I shot the pic of Hanna over the summer and if you... (show quote)


Beautiful shots Coco. I don't see carry over. What I do see is shadow that the camera sees as redish probably because of her skin down through the shadow. I'd say the same for the shadow above the hand.

Again, lovely posses... I really like them. Besides a beautiful subject.

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Dec 30, 2012 11:18:56   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
I'm not sure I see what you see...can you circle the area in photoshop and post it?

Honestly, I don't see anything amiss. One part where her cheek is against the wood the line is slightly blurred sort of ...color wise...the separation isn't great but that's all I see.

On the hand shot it looks like it's light contamination...that there is a tungsten light at the top of her hand that's not anywhere else...could it be? Was there a tungsten light anywhere?

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Dec 30, 2012 11:42:32   #
ggttc Loc: TN
 
Its color reflection off the barn...I have an old red barn and shot a picture of my wifes snow white horse...well parts of his mane turn out a very faint pink...everything reflects light...and I agree with a previous poster...the green is far more distracting...when your shooting in front of a red barn there is a lot of reflective space at play. That being said...stunning shots!

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Dec 30, 2012 11:49:43   #
Wendy2 Loc: California
 
I see a lot of yellow/green hue on her arm and fingers and around her hair line. I don't see the color cast you are referring to though. What I see is the area you are referring to looks like it is shadowed more.

In the second photo of her you see the same color cast on her neck and jaw.

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Dec 30, 2012 12:03:28   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
In the second shot, you seem to have two light sources, one tungsten (yellower) and one fluorescent (bluer). The skin tones facing towards the right on them mother's hand and the baby's hand have a slightly bluer tone. Some of that reflects back onto the mother's hand.

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Dec 30, 2012 13:30:46   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
rpavich wrote:
I'm not sure I see what you see...can you circle the area in photoshop and post it?

Honestly, I don't see anything amiss. One part where her cheek is against the wood the line is slightly blurred sort of ...color wise...the separation isn't great but that's all I see.

On the hand shot it looks like it's light contamination...that there is a tungsten light at the top of her hand that's not anywhere else...could it be? Was there a tungsten light anywhere?
Good eye on the tungsten---I contacted my daughter and she stated there is a tungsten light in the living room ceiling where we took the shot WITH a dark yellow shade on it. She stated that she may have turned it on but wasn't sure, but I think that is what happened. I will have more opportunities to take that shot over...........

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Dec 30, 2012 13:37:46   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
Good catch on the green/yellow cast on Hanna. I was so concentrated on the barn that I totally missed it but as I look at my calibrated monitor it is quite obvious. The 1st shot I presented was in B&W so neither cast was an issue and I have no idea where it may have come from. I'm always hesitant to use fill but I'm going to have to at least use it in all shots where this may happen---nothing to lose in shooting a couple extra shots. Good catch everyone and thanks again for looking........

Hanna B&W
Hanna B&W...

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Dec 30, 2012 13:54:53   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
Just looked at the original shot of Hanna and it has the green cast in it so it didn't happen in PP. There was grass in front of her and trees all around the yard so do you think that is possibly the cause for the green tint?? If so would you recommend that I use fill flash on all of the shots like this since there will always be something that will cast a tint?? Would you suggest I use the on camera flash for the fill or use an off the camera flash??

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