Idiot on Gun Control (Page 2): That's a good question.

OnTheFly Loc: Tennessee

That's a good question.

Bmac wrote:

Speaking of gun control what ever happened to that case down in Florida regarding the kid who was shot dead? Scratch that, should be a new thread I guess. Sorry. :|

handgunner Loc: Windsor Locks, Connecticut

The link worked fine. I just could not get the video to load. It is probably going viral and the site is overloaded.
Speaking of that? Did you ever notice some of the really controversial "Government/sesitive Political" videos seem to get "no longer availible" before you get to see them? Why is that? Maybe the Big Brother syndrome?

OnTheFly Loc: Tennessee

Hey Handgunner. I just tried it and it is working fine now. Maybe try it again. Or google Bob Costas and there'll be other links.

handgunner wrote:

The link worked fine. I just could not get the video to load. It is probably going viral and the site is overloaded.
Speaking of that? Did you ever notice some of the really controversial "Government/sesitive Political" videos seem to get "no longer availible" before you get to see them? Why is that? Maybe the Big Brother syndrome?

OnTheFly Loc: Tennessee

As mentioned. No one has tried to take away the right to be dumb from him..... or from you for that matter.
You evidently agree with the posting but you still have to say something negative. What's that all about?

wrr wrote:

what he said was dumb but he has the right to exercise that dumbness and to verbally express that dumbness. I see some on this very forum exercising the exact same rights...

handgunner Loc: Windsor Locks, Connecticut

Eugene wrote:

Hey Handgunner. I just tried it and it is working ... (show quote)

Eugene... I did manage to open it in another site. I am positive this issue is going to go viral if it hasn't already. Here on UHH, I can see this issue turning into a pissing contest all day if not longer. The last time I opened a can of worms like this on UHH was over the Kate Middleton privacy issue.

As for Bob Costas, he is a Grand Standing piece of work that will stop at nothing or stoop so low as long as he makes his point. As far as I am concerned he is down to the same level as Roseanne Barr when she made a mockery of the National Anthem.

Jovan Belcher murdered his wife/GF(?) and then took his own life. He took the cowards way out. He should not be immortalized. He has disgraced his family, his friends, his teammates and all the decent people that he ever knew.

John Evans

You folk both amaze and puzzle we Brits. You mention that States permitting the carrying of guns are the lowest in violent crime. Maybe so. But here in the UK the police are unarmed (and it is illegal to carry hand guns) gun crime is extremely rare - virtually none at all outside of London - violent crime is declining quite rapidly. Carrying guns does not, therefore, equate to low gun crime rates. How do you explain that ? Maybe it is something to do with the national psyche ?

I'd love to hear your views.

handgunner Loc: Windsor Locks, Connecticut

Explain??? Why Should we explain anything? Why do you drive on the wrong side of the road?
We have Rights here in the US. One is the Right to keep (or not to Keep) and bear arms. I choose to keep. If you choose not to keep an arm that is your Right. I respect that, but if you are being mugged, murdered, or your wife or daughter is being raped. Don't expect me to intervene. It is not my responsibility to protect you or your family. It is not the responsibility of the Police to protect you or your family. They are there to protect the community at large.
Rodney (NRA Refuse to be a Victim Instructor)* a non violent awareness course

OnTheFly Loc: Tennessee

Hey John. The fact is that if the United States placed a ban on guns, the only people who would have guns are the bad guys. If they passed a law that said you had to turn your guns in, do you really believe that the bad guys would go to the police station and hand their guns over.... Maybe your felons and thugs are different over the big pond but I assure you that on this side of the pond they would not. Then the only armed people would be the thugs who want to do harm.
Oh, one more thing...If an unarmed police officer were to try to arrest one of these people I'm talking about, the bad guy would be laughing as he was shooting the officer.
I can't imagine a drug dealer just letting an unarmed officer put a set of cuffs on him.

John Evans wrote:

You folk both amaze and puzzle we Brits. You me... (show quote)

Kit Lens

Facts can be twisted and once again they are. Sure there is less violent crime in Montana, Alaska and a bunch of other states that have lots of guns because they don't have the population density that other states like New York have.
I'm not for taking everyone's guns away but I think us Americans have gone over the deep end on this issue. We now have 300 million people in this Country and 320 Million guns.
In the end Louisiana, the undisputed leader of murder in the country has a permit to carry but other than that, no restrictions on buying or possessing.

OnTheFly Loc: Tennessee

Now, now, handgunner...relax....just breath...in through the nose......out through the mouth. LOL.

handgunner wrote:

Explain??? Why Should we explain anything? Why do ... (show quote)

OnTheFly Loc: Tennessee

Everyone knows where you would stand on this KitLens. But no one cares. Why don't you just crawl back under your communist rock and smoke another joint. I'm glad that the constitution protects us from people like you.

Kit Lens wrote:

Facts can be twisted and once again they are. Sur... (show quote)

SteveR Loc: Michigan

I understand what Bob Costas was trying to say. I don't think he was necessarily advocating laws eliminating hand guns. However, perhaps more people should consider whether a loaded handgun in the house is really necessary. The right to bear arms comes with the obverse right..the right not to bear arms. Choosing to have guns in the house should be done seriously and the guns themselves should be treated as the serious things that they are.

OnTheFly Loc: Tennessee

Hey Steve. It really isn't necessary if you know for a fact that you and your family won't be targeted by a break-in. Do you think that it always happens to someone else? I have a level of comfort that if I am awaken by the sound of my front door being kicked in at 2:00 am I have a peace maker within reach.
Frankly, I would be ashamed if something happened to my family and I could have protected them but chose not to.

SteveR wrote:

I understand what Bob Costas was trying to say. I don't think he was necessarily advocating laws eliminating hand guns. However, perhaps more people should consider whether a loaded handgun in the house is really necessary. The right to bear arms comes with the obverse right..the right not to bear arms. Choosing to have guns in the house should be done seriously and the guns themselves should be treated as the serious things that they are.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

Eugene wrote:

Hey Steve. It really isn't necessary if you know f... (show quote)

Eugene....We know somebody who was murdered by her own gun. I'm sure she thought it kept her safe. Her husband left home at 6:30 every morning. An intruder was aware of this and crawled in through the doggie door. She was in the shower at the time. When she heard him, she grabbed the gun, but he grabbed her arm as she fired. The bullet went into the ceiling. He took the gun away from her and shot her in the forehead.

As far as burglary. Most burglars are careful to break in when nobody is at home. The best deterrent is a good dog. If you want to be safe, get a dog that barks at the slightest noise.

OnTheFly Loc: Tennessee

Also, I have heard of rare incendents where the air bag in car were the cause of death. However, I feel safer with an air bag. If you don't think people's homes are broken into (occationally)while they are in bed asleep you have lost your mind. It hits the news every once in a while in Nashville. I think the burglars thought they were gone. Then again I think that sometimes they are just mean. Just a couple of weeks ago a home was broken into and the husband was pistol whipped. And not with his pistol. He had none.
Another incident that happen a few months ago was an 86 year old in Nashville. Two thugs kicked her door in. She had a taurus Judge with 410 shotgun shell in it. One thug put his hand in front of his face. The police found his thumb in the driveway and his right eye was knocked out of the socket. His partner was also pepered with shot.
Good thing she was ready instead of thinking it always happens to the other person.

SteveR wrote:

quote=Eugene Hey Steve. It really isn't necessary... (show quote)