Data Backup - Something New: I watched a video last night about a new product. It's offered by Synology, and it's called BeeStation. Isn't that a perfect name for a computer device?

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

I watched a video last night about a new product. It's offered by Synology, and it's called BeeStation. Isn't that a perfect name for a computer device?

For $200, you get a 4TB HDD in a black case with several connection points. You can back up your data to it, let friends have their own private space, and access it from anywhere via the Internet. Although this sounds like a drive in a box, it can do what regular drives can't do. There's no indication what kind of drive is inside, and the drive isn't replaceable if it fails (although I'm sure it's possible to open the case).

More details at the link below. I see they also have a BeeDrive. I suspect someone in their organization is a beekeeper.

https://bee.synology.com/en-us/BeeStation

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Accessed via the internet.
The "drive" is made visible on the internet?
Nope.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Longshadow wrote:

Accessed via the internet.
The "drive" is made visible on the internet?
Nope.

That's your choice, just like a NAS. It's not going to accessible by just anyone, though.

Bayou

Sounds like a "personal cloud". I had one briefly many years ago, before data sync cloud services like Dropbox were available. It served a purpose then, but no longer would.

tcthome Loc: NJ

jerryc41 wrote:

I watched a video last night about a new product. ... (show quote)

Took a quick look. Do they say what the brand of the actual drive is? = assuming they don't manufacture their own.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

tcthome wrote:

Took a quick look. Do they say what the brand of the actual drive is? = assuming they don't manufacture their own.

That's the thing. They say nothing about the make and model of the drive. I hope someone on YouTube opens one up to see what's inside.

charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.

jerryc41 wrote:

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Jerry...
I have better then that.
My son is an IT and he took my new DELL PC and added two HD's 20 TB's each and has them opperating together.
Now, when I save something it goes to both Drives.
Should one Drive fail I have a backup.
I simply remove the bad Drive and put in a new one.
It then be automatically be backed up by the good one.
I don't think I will ever need a Cloud.

Charles

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

charles tabb wrote:

Jerry...
I have better then that.
My son is an IT and he took my new DELL PC and added two HD's 20 TB's each and has them opperating together.
Now, when I save something it goes to both Drives.
Should one Drive fail I have a backup.
I simply remove the bad Drive and put in a new one.
It then be automatically be backed up by the good one.
I don't think I will ever need a Cloud.

Charles

Unless the power supply kills both drives (double drive failures DO happen - seen many), you have a power surge, lightning hit, fire, flood, theft or…

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

jerryc41 wrote:

I watched a video last night about a new product. ... (show quote)

Sounds like a NAS. How is it different?

Bayou

charles tabb wrote:

....I don't think I will ever need a Cloud....

Fire, earthquake, tornado, flood, hurricane. You need cloud backup.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

TriX wrote:

Unless the power supply kills both drives (double drive failures DO happen - seen many), you have a power surge, lightning hit, fire, flood, theft or…

The cloud is my disaster recovery.

charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.

TriX wrote:

Unless the power supply kills both drives (double drive failures DO happen - seen many), you have a power surge, lightning hit, fire, flood, theft or…

I had whole house surge protection installed when my Generac was put in.
Also I have a 3rd external 12TB drive taking backups also.
My dell is only a short time old, long enough to be considered safe.
Plus my son can take care of any problem that may arise.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

charles tabb wrote:

I had whole house surge protection installed when my Generac was put in.
Also I have a 3rd external 12TB drive taking backups also.
My dell is only a short time old, long enough to be considered safe.
Plus my son can take care of any problem that may arise.

Your surge protection will not protect you from a lightning strike, a fire, theft or a flood, and no matter how competent your son is in IT, it’ll take magic to recover data from all your drives if any of those things happen, and the fact that the Dell is new means nothing. In fact, new machines and very old machines are the most likely to fail. Not trying to be argumentative, but having spent >25 years specializing in professional data storage for the biggest storage companies in existence, I’ve seen way too much pain caused by lost data due to all those things I mentioned. An off site copy of your data is a big hedge against loss of data.

Cheers.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

charles tabb wrote:

I had whole house surge protection installed when my Generac was put in.
...

I had one of those whole house surge protectors installed on the outside of the meter box when I lived in Florida.
A pair of gas discharge tubes (A and B leg to neutral). I think it triggered at 600v. It protected against BAD surges, but not small ones (<600v). I had small surge protectors for the computer, TV, etc.. They protected at about 200v I think, but would not withstand a large hit.
A friend had something hit his house protector one time, it protected the house, but blew into little pieces in doing so. He had a new one put in.

Bayou

TriX wrote:

...I’ve seen way too much pain caused by lost data due to all those things I mentioned. An off site copy of your data is a big hedge against loss of data...