Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

I couldn't put 10 or 11 on ours.
Besides, the new computer runs rings around the old one.

lmTrying Loc: WV Northern Panhandle

Ain't it fun!

GEngel-usmc Loc: Spencerport NY - I miss Lakeland, FL

First, I ran PC’s and Windows for many years. Then Apple Macs and iPads, so please, no Apple vs Oranges comments; this post is not meant like that.

Recently had an M1 iPad issue with a recent OS Developer upgrade. Then Stuck in a ‘Boot Loop’ after the upgrade. Was AppleCare warranty, I called Apple, full no cost repair or swap out, my choice. I elected for an almost overnight replacement. Here’s the thing…

I do a daily automated Apple Cloud backup, so always backed up (they ask you that before swap). New unit comes in, you hold the new and old unit (or your iPhone) side by side and it then restores your last backup to the new device. Typically takes about two to three hours for my 256 GB iPad for a full ‘Restore’ with all my 771 Apps, 6,000 photos, 100 videos, all App data and settings, mail, passwords, etc intact and working. The Apps themselves are told (from the Restore pgm) to automatically restore from it’s App Store itself, hands off. It just works like before.

I remember thinking of the old days and the old ways before Cloud Backup possibilities, restoring each Application w/passwords, etc. Now if my old PC’s could have done that, I’d probably still be running them instead of a switch to Apple OS. No Apple/PC comments, please. This isn’t a dig.

Why can’t MS enable the PC and a Cloud that simple? Is it just $$$? It would make things so easy for all PC Users. Different PC Mfr Hardware shouldn’t be an issue if it’s all the OS. Like swapping out the Boot Hard Drive and swooosh, your replacement PC works like before. That’s what a good Cloud Backup should be like; Mirroring your Boot Drive exactly, bit for bit, then boot.

My apologies to all who think this was a dig on PC’s, it’s not. UHH has a great bunch of people who appreciate good cameras and photo abilities, and their software, which hopefully runs on both OS’s, Apple and PC’s. Your abilities matter as much as your hardware and software. I like both OS’s for their strengths, but made a choice that suits me for how I work and play. Thanks for thinking about it.

BebuLamar

I much rather install everything from crash than using the cloud. I hate the cloud.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

I would only use the cloud if I lost everything in the house.
It's a catastrophic backup.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Completely agree. Migration and sharing between platforms is something Apple really excels at (this from a LONG time PC builder/user).

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

IF you have the data to reinstall. Good cloud storage can save your a$$.

BebuLamar

I do not lose the data. Just the software installation. I saved all the data on an external drive before I send it in for repair. I wouldn't want to use the cloud.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Because? (What if the external drive had failed, been stolen, burned, etc…?)

BebuLamar

anything can fail and the cloud doesn't fail?

wrangler5 Loc: Missouri

Dang. I was about to remind folks . . . Which I see GEngel-usmc does later on.

I still keep a Windows box for Quickbooks and one of the TurboTax programs I need that isn't available in Mac form. When I switched from Win 7 to 10 it took me 2 weeks (not full time, but a lot of time.) First week to identify every program that was installed and be sure they were up to date, back everything up onto several external drives, and make sure I had all the install codes for all those programs. Second week was spent installing the new OS and reinstalling all the programs and data, and making sure everything worked.

When my 10 year old Mac Mini bricked a couple of years ago I went down to MicroCenter, bought a new M1 Mini, slid it into the same under-shelf mounting bracket as the old one, plugged in the multiple external drives (one of which held the Apple Time Machine), dialed up the Time Machine and told it to restore. About 2 hours later I was fully back in business after a total time investment of ~4 hours, 2 of which were equipment purchase and installation and 2 of which were doing something else while the new system rebuilt itself to match the old. Updating a 12 year old Macbook Pro to a new M1 Macbook Air and a 6-7 year old ipad to a new M1 ipad were even easier. I would not have a Windows box if I didn't need the accounting and tax software that only runs on one.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Chances are MUCH slimmer that the data would be non-recoverable, that's their business, to keep and save data.
Unlike us.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Nope, not major cloud providers. For example, Amazon typically keeps 4 copies of your data in geographically separate locations in hardened, professionally administered data centers with redundant storage, servers, networking and power - as close to 100% reliability/availability as you can get with modern technology and many orders of magnitude better than anything you can achieve individually.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

No question that Macs have it all over PCs when it comes to migration. BUT, you can make that a lot simpler by running a platform survey tool such as Belarc advisor before the migration so you know what Aps and what passwords to install. Plus you could just reinstall everything from your old download folder. And how often do you have to do this? Maybe once every 8-10 years if you plan for the future when you build/buy. And finally, there are real advantages in installing everything from scratch - you have the latest rev and drivers of every ap, AND you don’t copy over all the things that were slowing your old system down or hurting its stability.

paulrph1 Loc: Washington, Utah

Reminds me of an issue I had. Went to store that says it fixed all electronics. It was a GPS/walkie talkie. I forgot to remove batteries and terminals were corroded. He told me he could not fix it because he could not get the parts. They do not fix anything, anymore they just exchange parts.