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Dec 26, 2023 16:51:24   #
BebuLamar
 
I have an Earnst Dieter Hilker circa 1950's. It has a door with a piano hinge on the side. The screws came loose and the holes are kind of enlarged so I can't tighten the screws tight. I wonder what I should do? I do not want to use larger screws nor replace the hinge. Perhaps put super glue in the holes then tighten the screws?

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Dec 26, 2023 17:10:49   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
How enlarged???

I put a toothpick (or two, or three) in the hole, break it off flush with the hinge, replace the screw.
Tighten snugly.
I would NOT use superglue.

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Dec 26, 2023 17:11:46   #
Dave327 Loc: Duluth, GA. USA
 
Take a toothpick (round type) dipped in glue and insert into hole and break off even with the surface. Wait for the glue to set and install the screws.

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Dec 26, 2023 17:13:01   #
BebuLamar
 
the holes are not enlarged very much as they can still hold the screws jut not tight.

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Dec 26, 2023 17:13:03   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Dave327 wrote:
Take a toothpick (round type) dipped in glue and insert into hole. Wait for the glue to set and install the screws.

(Wood glue, e.g Elmers)

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Dec 26, 2023 17:16:41   #
flyboy61 Loc: The Great American Desert
 
Longshadow wrote:
How enlarged???

I put a toothpick (or two, or three) in the hole, break it off flush with the hinge, replace the screw.
Tighten snugly.
I would NOT use superglue.



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Dec 26, 2023 17:35:04   #
Dave327 Loc: Duluth, GA. USA
 
Longshadow wrote:
(Wood glue, e.g Elmers)


Yes, or tight bond

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Dec 26, 2023 17:44:42   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I have an Earnst Dieter Hilker circa 1950's. It has a door with a piano hinge on the side. The screws came loose and the holes are kind of enlarged so I can't tighten the screws tight. I wonder what I should do? I do not want to use larger screws nor replace the hinge. Perhaps put super glue in the holes then tighten the screws?


Insert a toothpick and a bit of carpenter's glue. Let set and good as new.

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Dec 26, 2023 18:27:04   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I have an Earnst Dieter Hilker circa 1950's. It has a door with a piano hinge on the side. The screws came loose and the holes are kind of enlarged so I can't tighten the screws tight. I wonder what I should do? I do not want to use larger screws nor replace the hinge. Perhaps put super glue in the holes then tighten the screws?

You need a Cabinet Maker not a Carpenter
If you do a search for screws of one size larger with the same sized head you may find something I have used screws like this years ago or maybe not
Example: #10 screw with a #8 head.
Otherwise the old tooth pick and a good wood glue will work nicely but keeping the screws centers can be a bitch!!

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Dec 26, 2023 19:01:46   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
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Otherwise the old tooth pick and a good wood glue will work nicely but keeping the screws centers can be a bitch!!

The chamfer in the hinge screw hole will help mostly center it.

Besides, I never inspect hinges at friends houses to see that they are perfectly set.....

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Dec 26, 2023 19:22:44   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
Longshadow wrote:
The chamfer in the hinge screw hole will help mostly center it.

Besides, I never inspect hinges at friends houses to see that they are perfectly set.....

Missing center can cause a break out depending on the wood thickness and the off center heads can also cause the door tp spring out at the hinge.

I do notice off center screw heads when viewing cabinets, especially antiques!!!

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Dec 26, 2023 19:40:57   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
Missing center can cause a break out depending on the wood thickness and the off center heads can also cause the door to spring out at the hinge.

I do notice off center screw heads when viewing cabinets, especially antiques!!!

I don't know how many dozen times over the past 45+ years I've used toothpicks, and never had a problem.
If one toothpick doesn't do the job, I simply back the screw out and add another.
I'll worry about that when it happens, not before.

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Dec 26, 2023 20:12:37   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
Moisten the tooth pick and dip it in a very small amount of Gorilla Glue, push it into the hole and break off fush. Allow to set over night and replace the screw. Gorilla Glue is water proof, sets hard and expands some when setting. If one toothpick does not fill the hole completely the expansion of the glue will probably do so.

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Dec 26, 2023 20:21:34   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
Use wood glue like Tite Bond. Push glue into the hole first, then stuff toothpick/s in to fill the hole and let it set overnight. Then trim flush, use a center punch to just make a dent then drill a starter hole with a very small bit. I Just fixed three cabinet doors this way.

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Dec 26, 2023 20:26:49   #
BebuLamar
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
Missing center can cause a break out depending on the wood thickness and the off center heads can also cause the door tp spring out at the hinge.

I do notice off center screw heads when viewing cabinets, especially antiques!!!


I do want to keep it looks the way it was.

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