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Dec 1, 2023 22:24:59   #
Boris77
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
I have no artistic skills at all. I can't compete with Linda, Dave, R.G. or the others with that ability. My college Art History instructor, after giving him my word never to take another art course, gave me a "C" out of sympathy. Physically I can't get out in the field shooting birds and bugs like I used to. And then along comes...

Artificial Intelligence is opening whole new vistas for me. I can make pictures of ancient Greece and watch Plato talking to his students, visit the holy lands during the crusades, prowl the back alleys of 18th century London looking for Jack the Ripper. I visit mythical lands and "take pictures" of their inhabitants. Have you ever photographed a ghost or a dragon? I extend my perception to the limits of the universe and beyond.

In Photoshop, Topaz, NIK and many other Post Processing applications, I can combine images to make anything I can possibly imagine. They are sometimes not "artistically" correct, sometimes shadows go in the wrong direction, lighting is not correct, or my characters seem to float above the ground. But I am getting technically better all the time.
I have no artistic skills at all. I can't compete ... (show quote)


That is called an Illustrator. My specialty back in art school, last century.
Photography was just being accepted in assignments, so I used it too.
Boris

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Dec 1, 2023 22:38:25   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Boris77 wrote:
That is called an Illustrator. My specialty back in art school, last century.
Photography was just being accepted in assignments, so I used it too.
Boris


I have a really good friend who just completed her MFA in Illustration. She is very kind and open, but I sense that she looks down a little bit on "ordinary" painters. Says their job is much easier, with many fewer requirements that must be satisfied. I still like her quite a lot.

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Dec 1, 2023 22:49:32   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
larryepage wrote:
I have a really good friend who just completed her MFA in Illustration. She is very kind and open, but I sense that she looks down a little bit on "ordinary" painters. Says their job is much easier, with many fewer requirements that must be satisfied. I still like her quite a lot.


I still like her quite a lot.

That's funny!

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Dec 2, 2023 02:27:04   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
larryepage wrote:
...I sense that she looks down a little bit on "ordinary" painters.....


Part of the process of development for people in the arts is a gradual refinement of their tastes and preferences. Where tastes and preferences are concerned there's no right or wrong, but there is a whole spectrum from basic at one end to refined at the other end. People in fine arts are definitely focused on the refined end of that spectrum, and that is a basic necessity for them rather than it being a vanity or a delusion. Your friend would probably describe her tastes and preferences as refined rather than superior, but they are superior in the sense that they're a basic requirement if you want to operate successfully in the world of fine art (MFA = Master of Fine Arts).

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Dec 2, 2023 13:09:40   #
User ID
 
Boris77 wrote:
That is called an Illustrator. My specialty back in art school, last century.
Photography was just being accepted in assignments, so I used it too.
Boris

Curiously enough, at one time my job title combined both artforms. I was very officially "Graphic Illustrator/Photographer".

(That title was not written to conveniently describe me in my HR folder, but was newly created to facilitate a recruitment search for anybody that fit.)

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Dec 2, 2023 19:46:35   #
Flying Three Loc: Berthoud, CO
 
Well said!!!

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Dec 3, 2023 06:35:28   #
Zooman 1
 
If it makes you feel happy go for it!

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Dec 3, 2023 20:01:35   #
hannaco Loc: People's Republic of California
 
How about just putting a different name to AI? Let's call it Synthetic Photography?

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Dec 3, 2023 20:23:18   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
Lovely...

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Dec 3, 2023 20:36:39   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
hannaco wrote:
How about just putting a different name to AI? Let's call it Synthetic Photography?


It seems people here are forever suggesting new terms or new definitions of words, and there's no chance they will ever go into wide usage from being posted here.

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Dec 3, 2023 21:05:56   #
hannaco Loc: People's Republic of California
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
It seems people here are forever suggesting new terms or new definitions of words, and there's no chance they will ever go into wide usage from being posted here.


How true. Just adding to the babble.

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Dec 3, 2023 23:41:36   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Lost in this discussion has been that much legitimate photography actually requires no artistry at all. When I take candid photographs of kids at school for the website or yearbook, there are really two considerations. First, is my photograph more interesting than the seven or eight (or maybe more) other photographs being considered for the space on the page. Second is whether mom and dad and grandma can recognize their baby (and does he look intelligent and engaged). Being a little bit artistic might provide a tiny advantage, but don't count on it. Proper exposure, color, and focus are, of course, mandatory. Surprisingly, though, the robotics team does appreciate artistic treatment in photographs used for their materials.

When I'm doing railroad photography, most of the time it's the same thing...proper angle, focus, exposure, and color. No frills or foo foo extra stuff. Just make sure to get the detail in the shaded parts where the carbody overhangs. Of course, that doesn't apply to the picture of the train in just the right impressive setting for the annual convention photo contest. There, everything counts. But remember that the winners are chosen by convention attendees, not a team of judges, so nothing too esoteric.

Anyway...just some thoughts...

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Dec 4, 2023 00:05:30   #
hannaco Loc: People's Republic of California
 
Along similar lines is event photography where most images are shot to a rigid formula. It can be difficult to tell an image shot by one company from another company.

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Dec 5, 2023 00:02:25   #
topcat Loc: Alameda, CA
 
I don't think that you do not have any skills. I kind of like what you do. You may not have the skills that other people do, I don't either. I just do what I can with what I see. y0u do the same. whatever we try to make is an attempt to take what we see and interpret it. A lot of people don't even do that.

Be proud of what you do. AI or real photography

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Dec 5, 2023 00:19:33   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
I have no artistic skills at all. I can't compete with Linda, Dave, R.G. or the others with that ability. My college Art History instructor, after giving him my word never to take another art course, gave me a "C" out of sympathy. Physically I can't get out in the field shooting birds and bugs like I used to. And then along comes...

Artificial Intelligence is opening whole new vistas for me. I can make pictures of ancient Greece and watch Plato talking to his students, visit the holy lands during the crusades, prowl the back alleys of 18th century London looking for Jack the Ripper. I visit mythical lands and "take pictures" of their inhabitants. Have you ever photographed a ghost or a dragon? I extend my perception to the limits of the universe and beyond.

In Photoshop, Topaz, NIK and many other Post Processing applications, I can combine images to make anything I can possibly imagine. They are sometimes not "artistically" correct, sometimes shadows go in the wrong direction, lighting is not correct, or my characters seem to float above the ground. But I am getting technically better all the time.
I have no artistic skills at all. I can't compete ... (show quote)


It all sounds great to me.


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