CrazyJane wrote:
And sharpness is overrated. The most important of all tools in photography is the eye. If you don't have an eye for it, there's nothing can help. And it's pretty easy to see who does and who doesn't, don't you think?
All very true. AND only half the story. I used a good camera, expensive wide-angle lens, and a quality panorama head to shoot 360 panos of a very special house. The 360s record the historic living environment of a significant craftsman. Who, incidentally did have that incredible eye. But to record his living environment I needed equipment and technical knowhow, not an artistic eye. For other photographs, you need that artistic eye and minimal technical knowhow or equipment.
You can divide photography into two extremes (and many gradations in between), and then mix various portions of each extreme to create the appropriate shot. One end is creating art, the other end is documentation. Family photos should document and will also be greatly improved by the artistic eye. When I shoot handmade furniture for an artist/craftsman friend he depends on my equipment and knowhow but the pictures are much better if he's present to use his eye to get the best angle. On the other hand, when photographing an oil painting for a catalog the only issues are technical. Is it sharp? Are the colors true? Have you eliminated any reflections off the oil paint?
There are multiple worlds within photography.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
Hip Coyote wrote:
Dear CJ, I took a quick look at a few of your photos that you posted. It seems you like a more abstract photo where sharpness is not an issue. In fact, you appear to avoid sharpness in some shots..to great effect, I might add. But for other instances or types of art, sharpness is absolutely a necessity. Birds in flight was an excellent example....generally. Certainly, the photo you showed of the D Day invasion needed sharpness!
Anytime anyone says something absolute, it is usually wrong. Professionals and advanced amateurs should live in the grey zone...knowing when to do one thing or the other. When absolute sharpness is needed and when it is a liability.
Case in point: I was having a professional portrait taken of me a few years ago. The pro used some old Canon 50D and an older lens. I asked why the old camera and lens when newer gear was available. He said, "not everyone needs nor should they have a very sharp portrait photo. For you, we're not worried about sharpness" I guess this old geezer needed a more fuzzy pic! Now, if he could only do something about the grey hair.
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In general, a portrait
is better if it isn’t ‘tack sharp’. Viewers don’t need to see pores and wrinkles.
rehess wrote:
In general, a portrait is better if it isn’t ‘tack sharp’. Viewers don’t need to see pores and wrinkles.
Yousuf Karsh got famous for showing every pore and wrinkle.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
JohnSwanda wrote:
Yousuf Karsh got famous for showing every pore and wrinkle.
Unusual. I remember how they ‘corrected’ my Senior {high school} portrait. I believe that is much more typical.
When my sister got married, they didn’t bother to hire a ‘pro’. My Mother had a “Rogue’s Galley” of high school, college, and wedding pictures, so she took a picture for it. The picture, by itself, was fine, but it really stood out amongst all that “professional” work.
MrPhotog wrote:
Politicians. From either side, of any issue.
Maybe the upcoming election day leads me down this path.
Incumbents say there is room for growth if you ‘stick with me’. Opponents see an opportunity to topple an incumbent by stressing those inferior results.
If you need a reminder: this is the Main Discussion, not the
Attic. Behave appropriately.
Horseart wrote:
A good eye alone is never quite enough. It also takes a little talent, knowledge, a good camera and a good lens to make that photo stunning. Wishing I had ALL of that.
This is the properly balanced opinion.
User ID wrote:
Several types !!??!?!? Such toadall BS.
Throughout ANY geography and throughout ALL time there exists exactly TWO types, or groups, of people: the Us and the Them.
Ha Ha
if you stand on the left you're US - and on the right you're THEM.
If you stand on the right you're US - and on the left you're THEM.
Geography created the History of US & THEM and THEM & US.
YOU are YOU and I am ME - Where ever you stand that does not alter.
But I am a Philosopher and a Buddhist.
Gear is a tool like anything else. If you don't have a good photographic eye, all the gear in the world will not make that better; but...gear does matter. With better tools, it is easier to build the house. Photo gear these days can provide much enhancements and options. Gear does matter. However, that does not mean having the most expensive, most current, most expansive collection of gear is in any way relevant. You should use the right tool for the objective. In most cases, that means reasonable gear. A pinhole camera can take a great shot, but it is not what you would use to photograph wildlife or sporting events. Portraiture is best done with good lighting and the right lens, but it does not require a very expensive set-up. Gear matters.
Not in my world! 😂 I love gear!
CHG_CANON wrote:
It's amazing what 46 megapixels cannot do for your photography.
Yes. And amazing what it can and does do for MY photography!
CHG_CANON wrote:
If Ansel Adams was the photographer worthy of that name, he'd do a better job Straight Out Of Camera like a Real Photographer.
Just think how many more Adam's photographs would exist, if he didn't have to spend hours in the darkroom with each of the ones that do exist!
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
rbstrategist wrote:
Gear is a tool like anything else. If you don't have a good photographic eye, all the gear in the world will not make that better; but...gear does matter. With better tools, it is easier to build the house. Photo gear these days can provide much enhancements and options. Gear does matter. However, that does not mean having the most expensive, most current, most expansive collection of gear is in any way relevant. You should use the right tool for the objective. In most cases, that means reasonable gear. A pinhole camera can take a great shot, but it is not what you would use to photograph wildlife or sporting events. Portraiture is best done with good lighting and the right lens, but it does not require a very expensive set-up. Gear matters.
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And gear has
weight.
As I get older, I am more and more aware of that.
REHESS, I agree whole heartedly. I went out on a trail with a big tripod, camera case and lenses and all the usual gear. I came back with a sore arm. :) I'm not a spring chicken, so gear weight matters. But there is also small efficient highly effective gear these days, even, dare I say, many cell phone cameras...(they don't weigh much and I've become more creative in creating ways to zoom).
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
rbstrategist wrote:
REHESS, I agree whole heartedly. I went out on a trail with a big tripod, camera case and lenses and all the usual gear. I came back with a sore arm. :) I'm not a spring chicken, so gear weight matters. But there is also small efficient highly effective gear these days, even, dare I say, many cell phone cameras...(they don't weigh much and I've become more creative in creating ways to zoom).
Some years ago, my wife were at Pt Pelee NP {Canada} when two gentlemen marched up from the shuttle with a wooden tripod and camera, took a photo, then marched back to the shuttle. I guess they were local - a lot of work for one bird if one had come several hours, as we had. This was in the days when most cameras used film; I hope their photo was good.
User ID wrote:
Several types !!??!?!? Such toadall BS.
Throughout ANY geography and throughout ALL time there exists exactly TWO types, or groups, of people: the Us and the Them.
Yet you have already declared by your actions to be the second type...willing to settle.
Deflections aside...you have already spoken.
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