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Oct 21, 2023 20:02:25   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Wouldn't a flat earth make communication satellites much simpler?

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Oct 21, 2023 20:39:56   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I wondered about this, so I did some looking. It seems that the people who believe the earth is flat accept the fact that all the other celestial bodies are spherical. I wonder if there is overlap with people who say the moon landing was faked.


A great way to give a flat Earther a true sense of where we live is let them co pilot a MiG-29. Head over to Moscow. Receive instructions how to pilot the jet. Get suited up. Cruise in at 65,000 feet above the Earth. Crank out a couple of Barrel rolls. Stare at the curvature of the planet while at the edge of space. Become one of the few Screaming Mimis

I am waiting for my chance!

www.MiGFLUG.com

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Oct 21, 2023 21:00:34   #
usnret Loc: Woodhull Il
 
Dennis833 wrote:
Flat Earthers advertise that they have offices all over the globe.


Guessing they meant to say " both sides of the big coin" ?

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Oct 21, 2023 21:12:51   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
GeneB wrote:
Be nice to those we believe have mental problems, please. They just don't know any better.


I do. I draw the line at those who choose to be idiots.

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Oct 21, 2023 22:41:19   #
Stephan G
 
texasdigital wrote:
I wonder why we are even discussing whether the Earth is flat. Anyone who seriously believes the Earth is flat has less intelligence than an amoeboid (or, as we in Texas call an amoeba). Yet, knowing Hoggers, this will turn into a 20-page thread.

Larry from Texas


Speaking of serious. It is a very well known fact that most who fall off over the edge of the earth are slapped back up and unto the surface by the elephants supporting the disk. The rest are left as food for the tortoise on whose back the elephants stand.


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Oct 21, 2023 23:23:06   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
"The only thing flat-earthers have to fear, is sphere itself..!"


Great !

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Oct 22, 2023 01:05:56   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
Stephan G wrote:
Speaking of serious. It is a very well known fact that most who fall off over the edge of the earth are slapped back up and unto the surface by the elephants supporting the disk. The rest are left as food for the tortoise on whose back the elephants stand.

Speaking of serious. It is a very well known fact... (show quote)

Makes total sense.

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Oct 22, 2023 04:43:57   #
pumakat
 
majeskiphoto wrote:
Everything we know about the earth and space has been decreed by NASA It's a proven fact that NASA was run by NAZIS


WHAAT??!

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Oct 22, 2023 08:04:50   #
Red6
 
jerryc41 wrote:
It amazes me that people think hundreds - or thousands - of people can work together to do something in secret without the truth leaking out.


That is true of many conspiracies. I used to work with a guy who thought the moon landings were faked. His belief was that the people of NASA at that time and the movie company hired to fake it was under threat of death if they ever revealed the "truth".

I asked him one day if he found it strange that now that many of these NASA workers and movie people were dying of old age and other infirmities NONE had ever revealed the "truth" on their deathbeds. It would seem that a few of the thousands that would have been involved would spill the beans. But none have, makes you think.

I also pointed out the laser reflecting device left by one of the Apollo missions that has been used numerous times by INDEPENDENT organizations to measure the exact distance to the moon by bouncing a laser from Earth to moon and back to Earth. He his only comment was that these other INDEPENDENT people were in on the deception.

This illustrates how conspiracy theorists protect and justify their beliefs. What they say is always the "truth". Anything said by others is part of the conspiracy and is false misinformation. So no amount of facts or justification can be presented that threaten their belief. This is true of the moon landings, flat earthers, or even the 9/11 conspiracies. It is a circular argument. Even facts one presents are considered false, therefore those facts existing and being false in their mind is further proof that the conspiracy exists.

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Oct 22, 2023 08:28:30   #
Red6
 
majeskiphoto wrote:
Everything we know about the earth and space has been decreed by NASA It's a proven fact that NASA was run by NAZIS


The Greeks had proven the earth was round more than a thousand years before NASA was around. Eratosthenes of Greece was able, using math and geometry, to calculate the circumference of the earth.

Of course, man has been in space since the 1950s using calculations involving orbits around a spherical object. Space travel around the earth has been accomplished by numerous countries, many unfriendly to each other politically, and none have confirmed the flat earth belief.

These facts though are disputed by flat earthers and again, as I said in another post, are considered to be part of the deception, that supports their views.

All of this supports one of my beliefs. If the Greeks proved the earth was round several thousand years ago and people today believe the earth is flat, then maybe the human race is NOT getting any smarter!

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Oct 22, 2023 08:35:28   #
riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas
 
Red6 wrote:
The Greeks had proven the earth was round more than a thousand years before NASA was around. Eratosthenes of Greece was able, using math and geometry, to calculate the circumference of the earth.

Of course, man has been in space since the 1950s using calculations involving orbits around a spherical object. Space travel around the earth has been accomplished by numerous countries, many unfriendly to each other politically, and none have confirmed the flat earth belief.

These facts though are disputed by flat earthers and again, as I said in another post, are considered to be part of the deception, that supports their views.

All of this supports one of my beliefs. If the Greeks proved the earth was round several thousand years ago and people today believe the earth is flat, then maybe the human race is NOT getting any smarter!
The Greeks had proven the earth was round more tha... (show quote)


Didn’t the ancient Egyptians also measure the circumference of the Earth over 1000 years before the Greeks?
Bruce.

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Oct 22, 2023 08:57:18   #
Red6
 
riderxlx wrote:
Didn’t the ancient Egyptians also measure the circumference of the Earth over 1000 years before the Greeks?
Bruce.


I think the Greek astronomer Eratosthenes made the observations and measurements used in his calculations in Egypt.

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Oct 22, 2023 09:17:45   #
Stephan G
 
Red6 wrote:
That is true of many conspiracies. I used to work with a guy who thought the moon landings were faked. His belief was that the people of NASA at that time and the movie company hired to fake it was under threat of death if they ever revealed the "truth".

I asked him one day if he found it strange that now that many of these NASA workers and movie people were dying of old age and other infirmities NONE had ever revealed the "truth" on their deathbeds. It would seem that a few of the thousands that would have been involved would spill the beans. But none have, makes you think.

I also pointed out the laser reflecting device left by one of the Apollo missions that has been used numerous times by INDEPENDENT organizations to measure the exact distance to the moon by bouncing a laser from Earth to moon and back to Earth. He his only comment was that these other INDEPENDENT people were in on the deception.

This illustrates how conspiracy theorists protect and justify their beliefs. What they say is always the "truth". Anything said by others is part of the conspiracy and is false misinformation. So no amount of facts or justification can be presented that threaten their belief. This is true of the moon landings, flat earthers, or even the 9/11 conspiracies. It is a circular argument. Even facts one presents are considered false, therefore those facts existing and being false in their mind is further proof that the conspiracy exists.
That is true of many conspiracies. I used to wor... (show quote)


Disney has never stated what happened to the seven dwarves (Or E-warves!)


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Oct 22, 2023 09:22:13   #
Red6
 
SteveR wrote:
Wouldn't a flat earth make communication satellites much simpler?


A flat earth would not require communication satellites. Most radio-based communications are limited by "line of sight". In other words if radio waves are blocked by a mountain OR by the curvature of the earth then communications cannot take place. Only in a few situations can radio waves curve around the earth, most dependent upon frequency and atmospheric conditions.

In a flat earth situation everywhere on earth would be line of sight since all points lie on the same flat plane. There would be a few places blocked by mountains but most points would be line of sight.

Communication satellites do line of sight since at their altitude they can see around the curvature of the earth. An uplink station in the United States is in direct line of sight to a geosynchronous satellite which can then downlink directly in line of sight to a station in Europe or Asia. There are also satellites that can link to other satellites in orbit allowing signals to reach places on the opposite side of the spherical earth.

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Oct 22, 2023 09:23:30   #
Stephan G
 
SteveR wrote:
Wouldn't a flat earth make communication satellites much simpler?


Not really. They, flat-earthers, are not trained in using semaphores.


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