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Aug 4, 2023 17:57:53   #
grandpaw
 
I would like to hear everyone’s opinion of this lens. I have the Nikon 70-200 2.8 F mount that is heavy and needs an adapter to work on my Z6ii. I also have a Nikon D500 and D810 but would like to use the lighter Z6ii. What are your thoughts?
I guess what I would like to know is how the Z 70-180 would compare to the Nikon 70-200 f 2.8 with an adapter on the Z6ii.

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Aug 4, 2023 18:51:49   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
grandpaw wrote:
I would like to hear everyone’s opinion of this lens. I have the Nikon 70-200 2.8 F mount that is heavy and needs an adapter to work on my Z6ii. I also have a Nikon D500 and D810 but would like to use the lighter Z6ii. What are your thoughts?
I guess what I would like to know is how the Z 70-180 would compare to the Nikon 70-200 f 2.8 with an adapter on the Z6ii.


Here is one person's opinion from a few days ago.

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-782072-1.html

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Aug 4, 2023 19:01:57   #
User ID
 
therwol wrote:
Here is one person's opinion from a few days ago.

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-782072-1.html

Where is the info on the 70-180 ?!? :-(

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Aug 4, 2023 22:59:39   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
User ID wrote:
Where is the info on the 70-180 ?!? :-(


You are correct. My error. The 70-180 and 70-200 are different lenses with a massive difference in price.

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Aug 5, 2023 02:18:55   #
gwilliams6
 
Matt Granger; Nikon Z 70-180mm VS 70-200mm F2.8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA1Alg_SRYw

Matt Irwin: Z9 70-180 2.8 | 70-200 2.8 VR S | 70-200 2.8 FL ED | 70-200 2.8 G | Shoot OUT | REALWORLD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2h742hIqGk

CameraDecision: Nikon Nikkor Z 70-180mm F2.8 vs Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f2.8G ED VR
https://cameradecision.com/lenses/compare/Nikon-Nikkor-Z-70-180mm-F2.8-vs-Nikon-AF-S-Nikkor-70-200mm-f2.8G-ED-VR


Cheers

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Aug 5, 2023 08:04:58   #
nikon123 Loc: Toronto, Canada
 
I purchased the Z 70-180 last week and am loving it. I use it on my Z6 camera. I do not own the 70-200 lens and cannot give you a full response to your question.. The 70-180 is far lighter, less expensive and smaller than the 70-200.

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Aug 5, 2023 09:44:06   #
Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx
 
So help me understand, UHH hosts soooo many posts about IQ of glass. A lot of those posts make it sound like you can't take good photos unless you have the best glass available, except when it's heavy, then the IQ of a lighter, less capable lens is the best lens and we can't take good photos unless we have lighter, smaller form factor gear. I just don't get it.

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Aug 5, 2023 10:15:22   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Strodav wrote:
So help me understand, UHH hosts soooo many posts about IQ of glass. A lot of those posts make it sound like you can't take good photos unless you have the best glass available, except when it's heavy, then the IQ of a lighter, less capable lens is the best lens and we can't take good photos unless we have lighter, smaller form factor gear. I just don't get it.


As an engineer, you understand tradeoffs. You also understand specifications, tolerances, and precision. You understand that a device or system will function properly if everything is within proper limits, even if not a single parameter is exactly at its target value. And you understand that much of the time, satisfactory (or even proper) performance can be realized even if a couple of parameters are outside their specification limits by a little bit. You understand that sometimes, devices or systems are "over-specified." Sometimes for a good reason,like safety, sometimes "just because." My guess is that you also understand that there will almost certainly never be a perfect lens.

All of those things that you understand are foreign here. To almost everyone. Just so you know, I do have a Nikkor 24-70mm f/2.8 zoom. But I usually use a 24-120mm f/4. I understand the difference. i understand what I am giving up and what I am gaining when I make the choice. We had a meeting a couple of months ago with the doctor about my dad's health and abilities. He's 97 and has some difficulties dealing with reality. Thee doctor explained to us that mental competence is largely related to understanding the difference between the optimal choice and the other choice(s). The key is the ability to understand the risks associated with the suboptimal choice. If you do, you are not only free to make that choice, but you can be deemed "competent."

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Aug 5, 2023 10:17:39   #
nikon123 Loc: Toronto, Canada
 
I don’t get your comment. Who said lighter or heavier has anything to do with image quality? It may be so but my response is basically the 70-200 is too expensive and too heavy for me.

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Aug 5, 2023 10:19:18   #
gwilliams6
 
nikon123 wrote:
I purchased the Z 70-180 last week and am loving it. I use it on my Z6 camera. I do not own the 70-200 lens and cannot give you a full response to your question.. The 70-180 is far lighter, less expensive and smaller than the 70-200.


The Nikon Z-mount 70-180mm f2.8 is internally the well-respected, superb, proven and popular Tamron 70-180mm f2.8 lens that has been available in Sony E-mount since 2020.

The lens delivers, and at less weight, size and cost of competitors. Its a winner.

Cheers and best to you all.

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Aug 5, 2023 10:30:42   #
Don, the 2nd son Loc: Crowded Florida
 
larryepage wrote:
As an engineer, you understand tradeoffs. You also understand specifications, tolerances, and precision. You understand that a device or system will function properly if everything is within proper limits, even if not a single parameter is exactly at its target value. And you understand that much of the time, satisfactory (or even proper) performance can be realized even if a couple of parameters are outside their specification limits by a little bit. You understand that sometimes, devices or systems are "over-specified." Sometimes for a good reason, ;ike safety, sometimes "just because." My guess is that you also understand that there will almost certainly never be a perfect lens.

All of those things that you understand are foreign here. To almost everyone. Just so you know, I do have a Nikkor 24-70mm f/2.8 zoom. But I usually use a 24-120mm f/4. I understand the difference. i understand what I am giving up and what I am gaining when I make the choice. We had a meeting a couple of months ago with the doctor about my dad's health and abilities. He explained to us that mental competence is largely related to understanding the difference between the optimal choice and the other choice(s). The key is the ability to understand the risks associated with the suboptimal choice. If you do, you are not only free to make that choice, but you can be deemed "competent."
As an engineer, you understand tradeoffs. You als... (show quote)


I think you just said "It is what it is." I have expensive critically high-scoring lenses AND some at the very lowest end of the spectrum. In some instances the low-scoring lens is as useful as the high-end lens, only use and familiarity with their strengths and weaknesses can tell us what we actually have to work with and which will work best on the challenge at hand, or so it seems to me.

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Aug 5, 2023 10:47:38   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Don, the 2nd son wrote:
I think you just said "It is what it is." I have expensive critically high-scoring lenses AND some at the very lowest end of the spectrum. In some instances the low-scoring lens is as useful as the high-end lens, only use and familiarity with their strengths and weaknesses can tell us what we actually have to work with and which will work best on the challenge at hand, or so it seems to me.


Sort of. Maybe. That's not really one of my favorite expressions, though. What I was really saying was that if you take the time to understand what is actually going on, lots of really beneficial alternatives may open up.

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Aug 5, 2023 11:13:16   #
mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA
 
grandpaw wrote:
I would like to hear everyone’s opinion of this lens. I have the Nikon 70-200 2.8 F mount that is heavy and needs an adapter to work on my Z6ii. I also have a Nikon D500 and D810 but would like to use the lighter Z6ii. What are your thoughts?
I guess what I would like to know is how the Z 70-180 would compare to the Nikon 70-200 f 2.8 with an adapter on the Z6ii.


I got the lens and I like it. Nice and light, smaller than 70-200 and I can't tell any difference in IQ. It was a little more contrasty than I expected. Here is a shot from a an awards breakfast for baseball shot inside a gym. Shot with Z6 at f2.8, 1/320 ISo1800 and 95mm


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Aug 5, 2023 11:40:30   #
gwilliams6
 
mikeroetex wrote:
I got the lens and I like it. Nice and light, smaller than 70-200 and I can't tell any difference in IQ. It was a little more contrasty than I expected. Here is a shot from a an awards breakfast for baseball shot inside a gym. Shot with Z6 at f2.8, 1/320 ISo1800 and 95mm



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Aug 5, 2023 15:24:36   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
mikeroetex wrote:
I got the lens and I like it. Nice and light, smaller than 70-200 and I can't tell any difference in IQ. It was a little more contrasty than I expected. Here is a shot from a an awards breakfast for baseball shot inside a gym. Shot with Z6 at f2.8, 1/320 ISo1800 and 95mm


A beautiful shot 💙🤍🏆🤍💙

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