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Jun 1, 2023 19:18:06   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
I would guess a lot of people on here spent thousands on a camera.


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Jun 1, 2023 19:29:23   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
TheShoe wrote:
EMC was founded in 1979 and were working on the first disk units based on Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks (RAID) technology. In 1972, I worked on systems that used non-IBM memory. They were Large Capacity Storage arrays, units of 2MB each, that were connected to the memory bus.

Most of the companies vying for pieces of the IBM pie offered cheaper I/O devices. There were Potter and MAI tape drives, compatible printers, displays, card handling equipment, etc., before anybody tackled the disk drives, which were much more complex and therefore more expensive to develop.

The main deterrent to putting any 3rd party memory cards into the system was that it would be altering a device that was usually owned by and leased from IBM. It was one thing to build a self-contained device that would connect to the I/O channels; quite another to cancel support and trigger law suits by altering somebody else's property.
EMC was founded in 1979 and were working on the fi... (show quote)


Sorry, I mistyped (should have typed 70s/80s). Since I spent 3 years at EMC after competing with them for many years (my first job was with IBM on the 360 system in 1964/5), I know a bit about their history. While EMC became well known for their triple mirrored disk storage (the Symetrix) which incorporated a BCV (business continuance volume) and an internal battery and UPS, they actually sold 3rd party memory for both IBM and DEC prior to the Symetrix. If you owned a Symetrix, the cabinet was typically locked and could only be serviced by EMC. I actually have the battery box out of a Symetrix in my basement. When I was at NetApp, when we took a Symetrix in trade, we typically dismantled it before shipping it back to corporate where they installed an aquarium in the cabinet and shipped it back to a local NetApp office to be displayed in the lobby (smile). In the trade, they were often referred to as the “evil machine company”, or the “Boston Mafia” partly because of the fact that they were tough enough to have taken a big piece of their storage business out of IBM’s hide. The story of removing devices from IBM memory cards so that the IBM machine would not identify them as “foreign” was related to me by my EMC sales manager who was from Boston and had been with the company from the beginning.

BTW, I was not a fan of EMC and ended up with them only because they bought my company, Isilon, (clustered NAS storage) long before they were acquired by Dell.

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Jun 1, 2023 19:53:45   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
burkphoto wrote:
Sounds like NextDoor to me... Most of the time it is a colossal WASTE of time, a rat hole of propaganda, and a pit of aggravated bitching. It is full of:

"What kind of snake is this?"
"Your dog pooped on MY lawn. How would you like it if I pooped on YOUR front porch?"
"Who's selling Girl Scout Cookies?"
"Girl Scout Cookies cause [cancer/flatulence/weight gain/impotence/...]"
"Anyone seen this dog/cat/missing gerbil?"
"Is your power out?"
"When will the power come on?"
"Oh, those evil [politicians of some party or the other]..."
"Did anyone see the UFO last night floating across Wendover?"
"My dog needs an operation. Can you help pay for it?"
"Beware these kids breaking into cars." [see Ring doorbell video]
"This kid in an Audi cut me off on Maple Street doing 90 MPH. Anyone know his daddy?" [dashcam photo shows license plate #]
"Hire me to cut your lawn." [gets tons of responses]
"Who cuts lawns for cheap?" [gets few responses]
"Amurriker needs more prayer." [usually followed by some Bible verse]
"Some kid's on [insert social media app] saying he's going to shoot up the school tomorrow. Should I call police?"
"There's a [house of some ill repute] on my street. When are the cops gonna raid it?"
"They's a shewtin' ray-dar own I-74 tuhday. Y'all slow down, now!"
"Use yer damn turn signal, ash-haulers!"
"Where's the food truck festival?"
Sounds like NextDoor to me... Most of the time it ... (show quote)


SO true. Here’s my favorite from today (accompanied by an image of a new stove on a front porch) “ Is anyone expecting a stove. Someone delivered to our home and just left it. Doorbell camera shows only an unmarked truck”

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Jun 1, 2023 19:55:29   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
elliott937 wrote:
E.L., we both are considering the same concept. I won't deny that a name brand batter might be made to a different standard, but I'll put the smart money on the fact that the battery maker runs one major line, with different names put on them.
There are different battery manufacturers and different countries of origin.

However when a company buys a product from manufacturer X, the company can specify additional levels of testing to screen out lower quality parts.

We do this same thing buying electronic parts. For example manufacturers make resistors and sell 20%, 10% 5%, 1% tolerance resistors. They are all from the same line the tighter tolerances are cherry picked. So buying 10% values you might not get the values closer to nominal, they have been picked out of the lot.

For military use those same resistors go through additional screen testing, temperature shock, vibration etc. The end result is higher reliability on the screened parts.

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Jun 1, 2023 19:57:06   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
TriX wrote:
SO true. Here’s my favorite from today (accompanied by an image of a new stove on a front porch) “ Is anyone expecting a stove. Someone delivered to our home and just left it. Doorbell camera shows only an unmarked truck”

37 people said "I am.".....

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Jun 1, 2023 20:00:00   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Longshadow wrote:
Reality and the truth hurt sometimes...

Or I could talk about butterflies, flowers, and unicorns so no one's feelings get hurt.....



Update: Case in point:
Just saw on a "neighborhood" forum that covers dozens of neighborhoods.

Person asked "Is power out?". That's it, three words.

Not mine....
The fact that no one knows where that person lives is superfluous I suppose.
Reality and the truth hurt sometimes... br br Or ... (show quote)
Usually people include a cross street in those types of posts to those sites. But you get the full distribution of IQ (not the image kind) on those neighborhood sites, and that includes the tails of the distribution.

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Jun 1, 2023 20:03:19   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
chrissybabe wrote:
Not sure why you decided that this issue only happened with British cars imported into the US ? This was true for all British cars EVERYWHERE in the world that used Lucas electrical systems. They gave us Concorde but they also gave us Lucas.
LOL so true.

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Jun 1, 2023 20:04:38   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
M1911 wrote:
I went in to get a new EN-EL16C battery for my Z6. They sold me one for $4000.00 but were nice enough to throw in a Free Z8.

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Jun 1, 2023 20:05:44   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
JD750 wrote:
Usually people include a cross street in those types of posts to those sites. But you get the full distribution of IQ (not the image kind) on those neighborhood sites, and that includes the tails of the distribution.

The majority I've seen just ask if anyone else lost power, rarely a location, but it happens.

I'll guess the distribution is a highly shifted bell curve.

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Jun 1, 2023 20:06:20   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
elliott937 wrote:
I must have missed something. Who is using a multi-thousand dollar camera?

What is the cost of a new interchangeable lens camera?

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Jun 1, 2023 20:08:15   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Wyantry wrote:
Manufacturers might do what printer companies have done: “chip” their batteries, then add software that would prevent operation without the proper chip/battery being recognized.
Bastards!
Umm.. that has already happened.

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Jun 1, 2023 20:09:13   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
GEngel-usmc wrote:
How can they prevent you from buying aftermarket batteries?
I’m sure H-P Printer Buyers asked the same question re: Ink Cartridges. Maybe required Software Firmware “UPDATES” or Battery Chips? Easy to do. Don’t rule it out.
They can't prevent you from buying them but they can prevent you from using them. ;)

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Jun 1, 2023 20:44:03   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
Dean37 wrote:
Some consolation for owners of expensive cars - If you buy a $250,000 car, you can be sure you'll pay a lot for brakes, oil filters, spark plugs, and everything else. Quality!


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Not always true. It could be today though.
I bought a new 1959 Hillman Minx and had the usual electrical problems that British cars with Lucas electrical systems have here in the US.
The one part, the Voltage Regulator, that was common for several British cars I had to replace 3 times. Each time I gave the parts house the part number, they would ask, "Hillman, Jaguar or Rolls-Royce?" The reason was the price difference for the same identical part. For the Hillman it cost $19.95, for the Jaguar it cost $95.95 and for the Rolls Royce it cost $199.95 for the identical part, no difference .

With camera manufacturers now it is not the same since the "New Kid on the Block" cellular phones have seriously intruded into what was exclusive territory and will not be going away anytime soon. "The best camera is the one you have with you" has been true and will continue to be true and most people have a cellular phone with them all the time. They are reasonably easy to carry nowadays though the early ones were like carrying a brick.

As a result the camera companies have to be looking at every possible way to stay in business and the super micro electronics gives them many opportunities to do so.

I would buy the OEM batteries every time, but when they no longer make them, I refuse to buy a new camera! Fortunately, or unfortunately, I don't depend on a camera for any serious reason, so I can be happy with old technology which for now has 3rd party batteries readily available.[/quote]

I can attest to that. About 25 years ago I needed a muffler for my car. It was 175.00. I told the service man it seemed very expensive (remember it was 25 years ago). The last muffler I had replaced, maybe 20 years before that had only cost 39.99. The service man said 175 wasn't bad and showed me his pricing manual and turned to a page for a Mercedes and the price was 1200.00! No more complaints!

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Jun 1, 2023 20:46:29   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
TriX wrote:
SO true. Here’s my favorite from today (accompanied by an image of a new stove on a front porch) “ Is anyone expecting a stove. Someone delivered to our home and just left it. Doorbell camera shows only an unmarked truck”


Oh my!!! I'll bet that one got funny responses.

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Jun 1, 2023 20:50:44   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Bridges wrote:
I can attest to that. About 25 years ago I needed a muffler for my car. It was 175.00. I told the service man it seemed very expensive (remember it was 25 years ago). The last muffler I had replaced, maybe 20 years before that had only cost 39.99. The service man said 175 wasn't bad and showed me his pricing manual and turned to a page for a Mercedes and the price was 1200.00! No more complaints!


Knowledgeable DIYers who own Lexus cars buy many Toyota parts for the equivalent Lexus built on the same platform. They are the same parts. There are several cross-references to part numbers for just this purpose.

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