No Aftermarket Batteries for Nikon: I don't know what model he discussed, but according to Louis Rossman, Nikon is not allowing aftermarket batteries in some cameras. This is nothing...

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

I don't know what model he discussed, but according to Louis Rossman, Nikon is not allowing aftermarket batteries in some cameras. This is nothing new, but we are definitely being screwed over by industry. Will cameras become inoperable after a certain amount of time or after taking so many pictures? There's always the danger of an old camera injuring someone, right?

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

They want people to only buy their batterie$...
They don't want to lo$e a $ingle buck.

alphadog

Longshadow wrote:

They want people to only buy their batterie$...
They don't want to lo$e a $ingle buck.

how can they PREVENT you from buying aftermarket batteries... I use a d800e and just bought 2x Kastar batteries which work fine... I don't expect them to last as long, like all aftermarket junk.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

jerryc41 wrote:

I don't know what model he discussed, but according to Louis Rossman, Nikon is not allowing aftermarket batteries in some cameras. This is nothing new, but we are definitely being screwed over by industry. Will cameras become inoperable after a certain amount of time or after taking so many pictures? There's always the danger of an old camera injuring someone, right?

I am curious as to how Nikon can stop aftermarket batteries from being used in their cameras. If a battery manufacturer makes a battery for a specific Nikon camera and it fits and works, what is Nikon going to do, send out an electric signal making the camera reject that battery? I don't think so. Nikon may not like aftermarket batteries being used in their cameras but I am not sure they can do much to stop the practice.

Dennis

larryepage Loc: North Texas area

dennis2146 wrote:

I am curious as to how Nikon can stop aftermarket batteries from being used in their cameras. If a battery manufacturer makes a battery for a specific Nikon camera and it fits and works, what is Nikon going to do, send out an electric signal making the camera reject that battery? I don't think so. Nikon may not like aftermarket batteries being used in their cameras but I am not sure they can do much to stop the practice.

Dennis

Yes. Exactly what you describe. These batteries contain chips and communicate with the processor in the camera. And the power switch is not a simple toggle switch. It sends a power-up instruction to that same processor. It is a very simple matter to program the system so that without a "valid" response from the battery, the power-up sequence never starts.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

larryepage wrote:

Yes. Exactly what you describe. These batteries contain chips and communicate with the processor on the camera. And the power switch is not a simple toggle switch. It sends a piwer-up instruction to that same processor. It is a very simple matter to program the system so that without a "valid" response from the battery, the power-up sequence never starts.

Ahhhhh, thank you for the information. I did not know.

Dennis

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

alphadog wrote:

how can they PREVENT you from buying aftermarket batteries... I use a d800e and just bought 2x Kastar batteries which work fine... I don't expect them to last as long, like all aftermarket junk.

They put certain electronics in the battery and the camera looks at it to identify it as an OEM battery or not. If not an OEM battery, the camera will not run.

Sorry, a duplicate....

Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis

dennis2146 wrote:

I am curious as to how Nikon can stop aftermarket batteries from being used in their cameras. If a battery manufacturer makes a battery for a specific Nikon camera and it fits and works, what is Nikon going to do, send out an electric signal making the camera reject that battery? I don't think so. Nikon may not like aftermarket batteries being used in their cameras but I am not sure they can do much to stop the practice.

Dennis

BY VOIDING THE WARRANTY

niteman3d Loc: South Central Pennsylvania, USA

I imagine this is a hangover from near bankruptcy. With the uber successful release of the Z 9 and pending similar results with the Z 8, Nikon Imaging is probably back on solid financial footing, but probably don't want to go there again any time soon, thus seeking new revenue sources like shortened warranties and playing battery games? Printer manufacturers did it with ink, so I guess Nikon and the rest of the industry could find a way with batteries, especially since plugging in for updates is becoming commonplace.

charles brown Loc: Tennesse

Canon can stop aftermarket lenses, why not Nikon with aftermarket batteries.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

charles brown wrote:

Canon can stop aftermarket lenses, why not Nikon with aftermarket batteries.

It's their business decision.

gwilliams6

dennis2146 wrote:

I am curious as to how Nikon can stop aftermarket batteries from being used in their cameras. If a battery manufacturer makes a battery for a specific Nikon camera and it fits and works, what is Nikon going to do, send out an electric signal making the camera reject that battery? I don't think so. Nikon may not like aftermarket batteries being used in their cameras but I am not sure they can do much to stop the practice.

Dennis

In Sony cameras, the camera knows when you aren't using OEM batteries with that proprietary Sony chip. You get a one-time warning (in the EVF and on the rear screen) that the batteries in use are not OEM. Then you have to choose Ok-Proceed for the warning to go away. Takes a second, then all is fine and you can proceed using any aftermarket battery of the same type as OEM Sony.

FYI, I use both OEM and aftermarket Wasabi batteries in my current Sony A1, A7RIV, A7SIII, as I did in my previous Sony cameras.

Cheers and best to you.

flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT

jerryc41 wrote:

I don't know what model he discussed, but according to Louis Rossman, Nikon is not allowing aftermarket batteries in some cameras. This is nothing new, but we are definitely being screwed over by industry. Will cameras become inoperable after a certain amount of time or after taking so many pictures? There's always the danger of an old camera injuring someone, right?

I don't think it was about Nikon "not allowing"...I believe it was more of a warning about things that could happen if 3rd party batteries are used.

I saw a YouTube video earlier today, did not watch it, but that's the take away I got from the title of the video.

After seeing this post I went back to find it, but couldn't.

Canon did win a court case about counterfeit Canon batteries being sold on eBay...but that's a different matter.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

flip1948 wrote:

I don't think it was about Nikon "not allowing"...I believe it was more of a warning about things that could happen if 3rd party batteries are used.

I saw a YouTube video earlier today, did not watch it, but that's the take away I got from the title of the video.

After seeing this post I went back to find it, but couldn't.

Canon did win a court case about counterfeit Canon batteries being sold on eBay...but that's a different matter.

One thing that could happen is you'd spend less.

I don't use OEM batteries in my cars, flashlights, remotes, watches, ...
Cheaply/poorly built knock-offs are a different story. I don't use them either.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

charles brown wrote:

Canon can stop aftermarket lenses, why not Nikon with aftermarket batteries.

You beat me to it. Wasn't our resident Sony Troll whining about Canon's decision at least 1 new post a week for months? Where's all the angst about the global #3 hurting their customers, instead of the worldwide #1 protecting their brand, the leader that Sony #2 still looks up to every day, from less than half their market share?