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Jun 1, 2023 11:27:21   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
BY VOIDING THE WARRANTY


What warranty? If you are not the original owner or if the camera is over a year old there is likely no warranty, so this would only be relevant if the camera is new.

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Jun 1, 2023 11:29:10   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
...all of my Z cameras work with after market. <shrug>

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Jun 1, 2023 11:30:42   #
BebuLamar
 
Bridges wrote:
What warranty? If you are not the original owner or if the camera is over a year old there is likely no warranty, so this would only be relevant if the camera is new.


Besides whenever I sent the camera to Nikon for service they always told me not to send the battery. So how would they know if it was used with non Nikon battery?

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Jun 1, 2023 11:30:59   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Bridges wrote:
What warranty? If you are not the original owner or if the camera is over a year old there is likely no warranty, so this would only be relevant if the camera is new.


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Jun 1, 2023 11:37:47   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I don't know what model he discussed, but according to Louis Rossman, Nikon is not allowing aftermarket batteries in some cameras. This is nothing new, but we are definitely being screwed over by industry. Will cameras become inoperable after a certain amount of time or after taking so many pictures? There's always the danger of an old camera injuring someone, right?


Sounds bogus to me. All of the most current Nikon batteries are available from third parties.

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Jun 1, 2023 11:56:20   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
JD750 wrote:
Nobody seems to believe that there are good technical reasons for using approved batteries in electronic devices.

“Approved” could very well include other legit batteries but also will likely screen out cheap poor quality knockoffs.

It amazes me people pay $4000 for a camera body and then complain about paying $50 for a battery.


I actually did think about that but forgot to write it in my previous post. The fact is, in my situation, I have never used third-party or aftermarket batter in any of my digital cameras. I stick with the brand and I have never had an issue. I was always concerned about leakage, poor performance, premature discharge, and short life. If any batter were to leak or swell, it will be a major repair job or the damage could be repairable.

I do, however, suspect, that a Nikon, Cannon, and others do not actually MAKE their own batteries. It's quite an involved manufacturing process. It would be funny if they were all made in the same place and simply relabeled. Anyway, why mess with success, I use my cameras in some difficult industrial environments and oftentimes in rushed time frames. I need reliable powere and so far- so good!

There are so many ways that all kinds of corporations seem to nickel and dime folks to death. I try to sort out the really bad ones but if I worry about all their strategies, I'll go nuts and become paranoid. In my business, when expenses rise, we add the increases to our overhead and costs of sales, and the clients end up paying more- INFLATION?!

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Jun 1, 2023 11:56:31   #
Ollieboy
 
If chips are unbeatable why are there chipped aftermarket inks that work fine? I've been using aftermarket chipped ink for many years without any problems. Batteries should be the same.

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Jun 1, 2023 12:12:54   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
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I do, however, suspect, that a Nikon, Cannon, and others do not actually MAKE their own batteries. It's quite an involved manufacturing process. It would be funny if they were all made in the same place and simply relabeled. ...
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Yup.
Back in the 80s I had to get an electronic ignition module for our van. I called the dealer and it was like $200 plus $150 for installation (3 hours)....
I talked to a friend at work. He said to look at what color connectors it has (blue), go to to Walmart and get one with blue connectors.... less than $25. Three screws and 15 minutes to replace.
Turned out in the past he worked in Quality Assurance at the company that made the modules. SAME module goes into different branded cases... and a "generic" case, sold by Walmart.... It lasted past when I got rid of the van, like 10 years later.

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Jun 1, 2023 13:07:54   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
I think the Canon rebel battery was $30.00 more so with what I have invested in gear $30.00 is nothing. After my bad experience that could have ruined an eclipse photo shoot of a life time I'll stay with OEM. I do have a few off brand I got from the purchase of a used camera and I'll use them but never in critical sessions. I also rotate my OEM batteries to even them out.

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Jun 1, 2023 13:16:35   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
jerryc41 wrote:
That topic was discussed on YouTube, and it seems to apply to everything - cars, cameras, tools, boats. I've used generic batteries in everything for years. I'm not going to pay $75 for a battery when I can get two plus a charger for $40. Is there really a difference between a Nikon battery and a Watson?
There are technical differences and more significantly, there are liabilities which are the main driver for a manuf to want you to use approved batteries.

Because if a cheap battery catches fire, the victim will hire a lawyer to will sue the camera manufacturer. The lawyer will claim the manufacturer should have taken measures to prevent the victim from using the cheap battery. The lawyer will win a big $$$ judgement if the manufacturer has not tried to prevent the use of unapproved batteries.

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Jun 1, 2023 13:26:26   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
I actually did think about that but forgot to write it in my previous post. The fact is, in my situation, I have never used third-party or aftermarket batter in any of my digital cameras. I stick with the brand and I have never had an issue. I was always concerned about leakage, poor performance, premature discharge, and short life. If any batter were to leak or swell, it will be a major repair job or the damage could be repairable.

I do, however, suspect, that a Nikon, Cannon, and others do not actually MAKE their own batteries. It's quite an involved manufacturing process. It would be funny if they were all made in the same place and simply relabeled. Anyway, why mess with success, I use my cameras in some difficult industrial environments and oftentimes in rushed time frames. I need reliable powere and so far- so good!

There are so many ways that all kinds of corporations seem to nickel and dime folks to death. I try to sort out the really bad ones but if I worry about all their strategies, I'll go nuts and become paranoid. In my business, when expenses rise, we add the increases to our overhead and costs of sales, and the clients end up paying more- INFLATION?!
I actually did think about that but forgot to writ... (show quote)
No they don’t make the batteries. However they buy batteries to higher quality standards to prevent the issues you cite. That does cost more $.

There is also a liability concern as I explained In a prior post. Camera manufacturers don’t want to get sued.

But are they making $ as well on the batteries sales? Maybe.

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Jun 1, 2023 13:44:06   #
MJPerini
 
There have been quite a few instances of Bad aftermarket Batteries so I understand that, there has also been a long history of perfectly fine high quality after market batteries---especially in the cinema world (think Anton Bauer)
I generally buy the manufacturer's batteries, and my experience is that they last a very long time, so I just don't see it as a particular hardship.
Yes, the manufacturers make a good profit on the batteries, but I see that as somewhat of a zero sum game, if they are forced to allow after market batteries, the price of cameras & lenses will go up accordingly.
Now if manufacturers batteries did not last, I might feel differently, But I have Pro batteries from flagship cameras from both Nikon and Canon that are 10 years old and work about like new. Seems like a non issue to me.

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Jun 1, 2023 14:12:19   #
Old Coot
 
larryepage wrote:
Yes. Exactly what you describe. These batteries contain chips and communicate with the processor in the camera. And the power switch is not a simple toggle switch. It sends a power-up instruction to that same processor. It is a very simple matter to program the system so that without a "valid" response from the battery, the power-up sequence never starts.


From which reliable source did you get this info.
Is there a warning in the supplied manual ?

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Jun 1, 2023 14:21:39   #
Horseart Loc: Alabama
 
I don't mind buying Nikon batteries but when you put one in your camera and use it only in the house for a while and it dies, then you try to remove it and it has swollen up so you can't get it out of the camera without digging it out and destroying it, that's another issue!

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Jun 1, 2023 14:24:18   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Old Coot wrote:
From which reliable source did you get this info.
Is there a warning in the supplied manual ?
He knows how the systems are designed. This is nothing new and it’s a common implementation for battery charging systems.

There are dozens of warnings in manuals about batteries.

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