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Mar 30, 2023 10:36:52   #
LDB415 Loc: Houston south suburb
 
pdsdville wrote:
This is one complicated mess. HIPPA prevents the medical profession from giving information to the police about dangerous patients. People are more concerned with privacy than life. NICS can't really get the information they need to make informed judgements on when to approve a gun sale. Ignorant clerks behind the counter ignore NICS denials and sell firearms anyway. I blocked a sale to a young lady who didn't seem quite right to me. Notified our other stores not to sell her a pistol. The third store did and she went home and killed her mother. Not fun testifying at that trial. It IS NOT the firearm, which is just a tool but the person behind it. If no firearms were available they would use some other method to kill. Banning any type of firearm would be just about as effective as prohibition was or as the drug bans are now. It won't work. With the millions of firearms out there now, how are you going to take them away from the public? Concentrate on the problem not on the tools.
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Mar 30, 2023 10:39:02   #
Triple G
 
pdsdville wrote:
This is one complicated mess. HIPPA prevents the medical profession from giving information to the police about dangerous patients. People are more concerned with privacy than life. NICS can't really get the information they need to make informed judgements on when to approve a gun sale. Ignorant clerks behind the counter ignore NICS denials and sell firearms anyway. I blocked a sale to a young lady who didn't seem quite right to me. Notified our other stores not to sell her a pistol. The third store did and she went home and killed her mother. Not fun testifying at that trial. It IS NOT the firearm, which is just a tool but the person behind it. If no firearms were available they would use some other method to kill. Banning any type of firearm would be just about as effective as prohibition was or as the drug bans are now. It won't work. With the millions of firearms out there now, how are you going to take them away from the public? Concentrate on the problem not on the tools.
This is one complicated mess. HIPPA prevents the ... (show quote)


Your post is incorrect.

https://www.hollandhart.com/police-providers-patients-and-hipaa

It’s just so complicated that the “do nothing” to avoid litigation is the default response.

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Mar 30, 2023 10:43:50   #
LDB415 Loc: Houston south suburb
 
It is time to vigorously update and modify the laws to make mental issues and records fully available to law enforcement and mandate their immediate updating of NICS. As the left likes to tell us when they try to violate the Constitution, "do it for the children".

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Mar 30, 2023 11:25:35   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
Frank T wrote:
Sure Bill, That's the answer.
MGYFS


MGYFS?

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Mar 30, 2023 12:21:02   #
FrumCA
 
LDB415 wrote:
What needs to be discussed is not what types of firearms to limit or what/how to give access, it's how to hard secure schools, how to get mental illness information made public to LE, NICS, and medical professionals. There should be zero discussion of anything to do with restricting or infringing inanimate objects.

For those who do not understand that the problem is with the sick people who use firearms, and other weapons BTW, to harm children AND adults is the epitome of stupidity. You are spot on with your suggestions as to what needs to be discussed.

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Mar 30, 2023 13:28:38   #
DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL
 
LDB415 wrote:
There are some lively and interesting conversations going on regarding criminals shooting innocents. They always pretend and claim to be about saving children. They always don't care about saving children, just banning firearms. So here is the challenge. Are you for doing the things required to eliminate threats and hazards to safeguard and protect the lives of children? All the things required? Or are you just out to ban firearms and using children to further your cause. We already know the answer but go ahead and pat yourself on the back anyway and claim you are all for the children. It's what you hypocrites do best.
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The issue is not to ban firearms but to ban the assault style semi automatic weapons .......the only person who needs an AR15 or similar is a person who thinks his penis is to small ..... an AR15 or Kbar will not add inches to a penis .....

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Mar 30, 2023 13:33:51   #
DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL
 
Watosh wrote:
The press after the shooting seemed to be more interested in what pronouns the murdering, mentally deranged
piece of trash shooter used than the victims. This is what you get when you have a Godless government run by Godless people supported by a Godless electorate. The war on Christians has escalated and it's not going to be pretty. Especially, with most Christians being silent like the churches in Germany before Hilter.


yes Christians were silent in Nazi Germany ..... they were killing the Jews ..... in-fact ....through out Europe Christians were killing Jews ....

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Mar 30, 2023 13:39:13   #
DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL
 
LDB415 wrote:
It is time to vigorously update and modify the laws to make mental issues and records fully available to law enforcement and mandate their immediate updating of NICS. As the left likes to tell us when they try to violate the Constitution, "do it for the children".


We should do like Israel does ..... if you want to own a gun, you need a letter from your Doctor stating you are mentally competent to own a gun and the license is renewable every 3 years ..... another letter is required at each renewal ..

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Mar 30, 2023 13:54:36   #
The Aardvark Is Ready
 
DEBJENROB wrote:
The issue is not to ban firearms but to ban the assault style semi automatic weapons .......the only person who needs an AR15 or similar is a person who thinks his penis is to small ..... an AR15 or Kbar will not add inches to a penis .....


Say what? The Hedgehog says different.

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Mar 30, 2023 13:59:51   #
The Aardvark Is Ready
 
Rab-Eye wrote:
MGYFS?


It's from Frank so it probably means something vulgar like " My God you're F'ing stupid" would be my guess.

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Mar 30, 2023 14:08:43   #
DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL
 
pdsdville wrote:
This is one complicated mess. HIPPA prevents the medical profession from giving information to the police about dangerous patients. People are more concerned with privacy than life. NICS can't really get the information they need to make informed judgements on when to approve a gun sale. Ignorant clerks behind the counter ignore NICS denials and sell firearms anyway. I blocked a sale to a young lady who didn't seem quite right to me. Notified our other stores not to sell her a pistol. The third store did and she went home and killed her mother. Not fun testifying at that trial. It IS NOT the firearm, which is just a tool but the person behind it. If no firearms were available they would use some other method to kill. Banning any type of firearm would be just about as effective as prohibition was or as the drug bans are now. It won't work. With the millions of firearms out there now, how are you going to take them away from the public? Concentrate on the problem not on the tools.
This is one complicated mess. HIPPA prevents the ... (show quote)


When was the last time you saw or read about someone having a sub-machine gun or sawed off shotgun .... could it be that there is a law prohibiting possession .... check out the 1936? National Firearms Act ....

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Mar 30, 2023 14:13:20   #
Watash
 
DEBJENROB wrote:
yes Christians were silent in Nazi Germany ..... they were killing the Jews ..... in-fact ....through out Europe Christians were killing Jews ....


And some Jews were turning in Jews knowing they would be killed, thinking it would keep the Nazis from killing them. I would hope you don't mean "all" Christians. I have read that Catholics were pretty good buddies with
the Nazis but surely not all of them, I hope. I do know that God knows who was killing the Jews.

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Mar 30, 2023 14:13:44   #
LDB415 Loc: Houston south suburb
 
DEBJENROB wrote:
The issue is not to ban firearms but to ban the assault style semi automatic weapons .......the only person who needs an AR15 or similar is a person who thinks his penis is to small ..... an AR15 or Kbar will not add inches to a penis .....


Another voice heard saying children don't matter, only banning guns. Got it. Whichever of the three of Deb, Jen or Rob has spoken doesn't care about saving children, only banning guns they don't like. Now just tell us something you like so we can be a$$es and denigrate you and insult you inappropriately over your choice.

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Mar 30, 2023 14:29:32   #
dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii
 
Wyantry wrote:
But people are MAKING child-safety vs. guns a binary choice!

People are blaming the weapons, NOT the persons responsible.


Without weapons, there can be no gun violence.

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Mar 30, 2023 14:32:09   #
The Aardvark Is Ready
 
dlwhawaii wrote:
Without weapons, there can be no gun violence.


Without the persons responsible, there can be no gun violence.

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