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Jul 28, 2022 11:02:49   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
mrtkarlin wrote:
They don't have a sell tab on their site anyway. I take it you're not happy with them.


They don’t deal in used. The suggestion was a joke. They are the prime example on here of a once reputable company that is now run by shysters.

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Jul 28, 2022 11:24:26   #
elee950021 Loc: New York, NY
 
My first SLR camera was bought in 1964 as a HS graduation present from Peerless Camera (located on Lexington Avenue on the Eastside of Manhattan, in the '40s (Street) around Grand Central Terminal), the sister store to Willoughby's which for many years was on West 32nd Street on the main drag to Penn Station. Both companies went into bankruptcy and the names were sold to others.

Willoughby's, since then, resurrected itself with a small store on Fifth Avenue in the '20s (Street) and elsewhere later. They are basically similar to the tourist shops that line Fifth and Madison Avenues with limited brands and selections that are higher priced; someone else said that they are not authorized dealers of anything.

Back in the day (the '70s) when I began my custom photo lab business, I bought small amounts of photographic paper, chemicals and sundries from Willoughby's fully stocked darkroom department. They even introduced me to Arkin-Medo, a photographic wholesaler that was affiliated with them and gave me my first credit account with terms of 10/2 Net 30!

Now I wouldn't buy anything from them!

Be well! Ed

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Jul 28, 2022 12:14:08   #
RolandDieter
 
Avoid Abe's of Maine. I'd rather get covid. When you get over covid you don't feel bad anymore.

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Jul 28, 2022 12:50:44   #
sheldon minsky Loc: iron mountain michigan
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
I've heard Abe's of Maine has great prices.


I heard that they feature the Canon brand.

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Jul 28, 2022 12:55:04   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
MDI Mainer wrote:
Every merchant is going to have some bad reviews, but 20% is a bit too high, even accounting for the fact that disgruntled customers are apt to be more vocal than satisfied ones.

I had a minor issue with Adorama years ago about a very inexpensive item. Gave me the total run around. Probably under $25 dollars. I've never gone back to them. Spent thousands at other dealers so there policy cost them a customer for life

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Jul 28, 2022 14:10:32   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
sheldon minsky wrote:
I heard that they feature the Canon brand.


They (Abes of Maine) are not an authorized Canon dealer. They are not an authorized dealer of any brand of camera equipment. They apparently scrape together gray market goods, advertise stuff they don't have and try to pull a switch on you. They've been known to remove accessories from boxes to sell separately. "You bought a camera. You didn't pay for a battery charger." There are volumes of this information on UHH. It's all over the Internet. I don't know how what they're doing isn't against the law. They and some other rebranded companies are all located in New York. Maybe there's a reason for it.

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Jul 28, 2022 14:14:47   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
I had a minor issue with Adorama years ago about a very inexpensive item. Gave me the total run around. Probably under $25 dollars. I've never gone back to them. Spent thousands at other dealers so there policy cost them a customer for life


I might give a company or something like a restaurant one chance to redeem themselves. Maybe the idiot or the chef who incinerated my food isn't working there any longer. Sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised. Sometimes not. By the way, I've ordered photo equipment on Amazon more than once that actually came from Adorama. Amazon has a generous return policy if you don't abuse it.

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Jul 28, 2022 17:02:54   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
I've heard Abe's of Maine has great prices.


Yes they have great prices on grey market products. I bought from them in the beginning before I was educated as to grey market repairs. I bought a d7100 from them as a body only and they sent it in a box that came with a lens but they removed the lens. Great price but hokey deal in my opinion

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Jul 28, 2022 17:04:56   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
A photographer and their money are easily parted at Abe's.

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Jul 28, 2022 17:26:01   #
hpucker99 Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
therwol wrote:
They (Abes of Maine) are not an authorized Canon dealer. They are not an authorized dealer of any brand of camera equipment. They apparently scrape together gray market goods, advertise stuff they don't have and try to pull a switch on you. They've been known to remove accessories from boxes to sell separately. "You bought a camera. You didn't pay for a battery charger." There are volumes of this information on UHH. It's all over the Internet. I don't know how what they're doing isn't against the law. They and some other rebranded companies are all located in New York. Maybe there's a reason for it.
They (Abes of Maine) are not an authorized Canon d... (show quote)


I always thought New York had strong consumer protection laws, so I wonder why Abe's has gotten away with their practices for this long?

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Jul 28, 2022 17:30:15   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
hpucker99 wrote:
I always thought New York had strong consumer protection laws, so I wonder why Abe's has gotten away with their practices for this long?


I have to correct myself. When the name was sold, they set up shop in Brooklyn, but in 2006 they moved to New Jersey. I looked this up. I didn't realize they weren't still in Brooklyn. Maybe they got run out.

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Jul 28, 2022 19:04:18   #
PAR4DCR Loc: A Sunny Place
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
I've heard Abe's of Maine has great prices.


Surely you jest

Don

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Jul 28, 2022 19:09:31   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
PAR4DCR wrote:
Surely you jest

Don


They're well-known for their great prices ... and other things too.

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Jul 28, 2022 21:33:39   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
A photographer and their money are easily parted at Abe's.


The expression Honest Abes was NOT about them

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Jul 28, 2022 23:49:02   #
MDI Mainer
 
But, but, but Abe's has a store on the Amazon platform. Not a huge inventory, but if you see something there at a good price you can buy it with some degree of confidence, as I know from personal experience. Gray market items appear to be labeled as such with the moniker "International Model." Some of the items are even fulfilled (aka shipped) by Amazon. Buying on Amazon would be an exception to the general recommendation against purchasing from this outlet (which I hasten to add no longer has any connection to Maine). This is not a recommendation to do so but a fact check.

https://www.amazon.com/s?i=merchant-items&me=A3DI1PQ3I3V3R1

An example from current stock: Sony SELP1650 16-50mm OSS Lens, $174 at Abe's/Amazon vs $298 at B&H.

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-SELP1650-16-50mm-Lens-International/dp/B07T1MQMFF/ref=sr_1_12?m=A3DI1PQ3I3V3R1&qid=1659066924&refinements=p_4%3AAOM&s=merchant-items&sr=1-12

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/892390-REG/Sony_selp1650_16_50mm_F_3_5_5_6_Power_Zoom.html

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