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Jul 12, 2022 07:50:23   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I have always said "Thee apple" and "Thee ocean." Lately, more and more people are saying "Thuh apple" and "Thuh ocean." That's incorrect, but it seems like it's becoming a trend. I don't hear people say, "A apple" or "A ocean," so why can't they get "the" right?

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Jul 12, 2022 07:54:56   #
randave2001 Loc: Richmond
 
https://www.theclassroom.com/english-pronunciation-rules-5761661.html

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Jul 12, 2022 08:03:56   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
"Acoarst" you realize that is just one example - and I saw that the projected banner behind the stage at a speech our esteemed VP gave in New Orleans spelled the state "Lousiana"

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Jul 12, 2022 08:25:37   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have always said "Thee apple" and "Thee ocean." Lately, more and more people are saying "Thuh apple" and "Thuh ocean." That's incorrect, but it seems like it's becoming a trend. I don't hear people say, "A apple" or "A ocean," so why can't they get "the" right?

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There is no right. There is regional dialect.

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Jul 12, 2022 08:33:05   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
That's the rule I learned. Thanks for the link. Looks like a site worth exploring.
--Bob
randave2001 wrote:
https://www.theclassroom.com/english-pronunciation-rules-5761661.html

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Jul 12, 2022 08:55:28   #
DickC Loc: NE Washington state
 
kymarto wrote:
There is no right. There is regional dialect.


I agree, it's regional!

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Jul 12, 2022 09:15:44   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have always said "Thee apple" and "Thee ocean." Lately, more and more people are saying "Thuh apple" and "Thuh ocean." That's incorrect, but it seems like it's becoming a trend. I don't hear people say, "A apple" or "A ocean," so why can't they get "the" right?

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Regional differences. How about some old(er) English like "Thou". Elizabethan English is nearly un readable today. The pronunciations are confusing too. English is an evolving language.

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Jul 12, 2022 09:16:33   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
kymarto wrote:
There is no right. There is regional dialect.



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Jul 12, 2022 10:30:09   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have always said "Thee apple" and "Thee ocean." Lately, more and more people are saying "Thuh apple" and "Thuh ocean." That's incorrect, but it seems like it's becoming a trend. I don't hear people say, "A apple" or "A ocean," so why can't they get "the" right?

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The only time I consistently hear folks saying 'the' as 'thee' instead of 'thi' (clipped, short 'I' sound as in 'ick') or 'thuh' is when they are reading out loud. The only people I hear doing that are people who don't read out loud very often or for a living. An exception might be when the word following the starts with a long 'e', as in "the evening...". But even there, 'thi' is more common.

Every drama coach I ever knew told us to read 'the' as 'thi' and pronounce it with a clipped, short 'I' sound.

THEE is a bit Old English, don't you think? It's one of those archaic words from the King James Bible.

As I step back, though, I realize that somehow, we English speakers can manage to understand other people speaking English no matter where they learned it or with what accent or regional dialect they speak it. If you listen to someone long enough, your brain analyzes their speech patterns and word usage and you just adapt.

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Jul 12, 2022 10:31:40   #
Indi Loc: L. I., NY, Palm Beach Cty when it's cold.
 
While we’re on this topic…
I seem to recall, when I was growing up, that the word, “FUN” usually had a modifying word used with it. I don’t know when it all started but I always hear things like, “that’s so fun,” instead of the way I use it…”that’s so much fun.”

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Jul 12, 2022 10:44:35   #
kpmac Loc: Ragley, La
 
My pet peeve is the incorrect usage of "then" and "than". For example: I am older then you. WRONG!

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Jul 12, 2022 11:22:32   #
JRiepe Loc: Southern Illinois
 
kpmac wrote:
My pet peeve is the incorrect usage of "then" and "than". For example: I am older then you. WRONG!


How many times have you heard people say, "I could care less" when they actually mean they couldn't care less. I hear the incorrect verbs used in sentences over and over again, for example have went instead of have gone.

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Jul 12, 2022 12:03:58   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
My pet peeve is the incorrect use of apostrophe's...

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Jul 12, 2022 12:34:53   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
When we moved from Texas to Alabama I learned a new version of English called Southern. From there we moved to North Carolina which is still Southern. The vernacular rubbed off and I find myself speaking Southern. The phrase that I occasionally utter and irritates me when I do is "fixin to". I'm fixin to go to the store. I want to kick myself when that slips out and it grates when I hear it from someone else.

Have a good day ya'll!! I'm fixin to go run some errands.

Dodie

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Jul 12, 2022 12:41:27   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
burkphoto wrote:
THEE is a bit Old English, don't you think? It's one of those archaic words from the King James Bible.


I was referring to pronunciation, not spelling.

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