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Nov 1, 2012 18:14:03   #
Gnslngr
 
Photogdog wrote:
C'mon, do you really think a few college kids wearing a small cross on their T-shirts during a football game is equivalent to ramming their religious beliefs down your throat?


Nope. But it's a start. :thumbup:

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Nov 1, 2012 18:44:15   #
Fla Walt Loc: Delray Beach, Florida
 
FLandWVMIKE wrote:
We have Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Speech.
Let's stop this "politically correctness" and take our country back, this election day !


I keep asking "back from who"?

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Nov 1, 2012 18:57:01   #
ngc1514 Loc: Atlanta, Ga., Lancaster, Oh. and Stuart, Fl.
 
Fla Walt wrote:
FLandWVMIKE wrote:
We have Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Speech.
Let's stop this "politically correctness" and take our country back, this election day !


I keep asking "back from who"?


Why, from everyone who does not think the same way as the poster, obviously. Next thing you know, someone will claim the nation was stabbed in the back and we know where that went!

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Nov 1, 2012 20:40:42   #
SpeedyWilson Loc: Upstate South Carolina
 
Read the article:

Actually, contrary to what some have posted, the LSU students weren't wearing crosses on T-shirts. They painted their naked upper bodies with body paint, and also painted the crosses on their chests.

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Nov 1, 2012 20:54:13   #
Photogdog Loc: New Kensington, PA
 
MisterWilson wrote:
Read the article:

Actually, contrary to what some have posted, the LSU students weren't wearing crosses on T-shirts. They painted their naked upper bodies with body paint, and also painted the crosses on their chests.


So much for taxpayer dollars going to the religious right.

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Nov 1, 2012 20:57:08   #
Gnslngr
 
Photogdog wrote:
So much for taxpayer dollars going to the religious right.


Read the article. The university was using pictures of the boys. That was the problem.

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Nov 1, 2012 21:07:10   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Cragzop wrote:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. Means you can't use my tax dollars to promote your make-believe bs religion. That's why I'm proud to be an American.


Once again the American sheeple get bamboozeled by the government. If Congress is so hell bent on separation of church and state, why do they open all sessions of congress with prayer? Same with the supreme court. Or how about "In God We Trust" on our currency. Congress sure holds themselves to a different standard. What happened to "For the people by the people?"
I'm sure the prayers alienate some religious groups that feel left out of the mix due to the Judaeo\Christian roots of the prayers.

I'm an atheist yet I believe an American has the right to prayer. The government has gotten into the self esteem business, whether it be mainstreaming kids with learning disabilities so their self esteem is maintained; affirmative action; illegal immigration; or denying prayer for fear some group will feel left out.

First, self esteem is not something I want my government dictating the rules for. Second failure is not how one defines their self. The government wants to eliminate failure as an option. Problem is it has traded mediocrity for it. Even the greatest in history have failed and learned from their mistakes.[/quote]

As far as the god statement on the currency it is relatively a recent addition. The founders would never have permitted it to happen.



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Nov 1, 2012 21:12:45   #
Dogman Loc: Michigan
 
Gnslngr wrote:
Photogdog wrote:
So much for taxpayer dollars going to the religious right.


Read the article. The university was using pictures of the boys. That was the problem.


Gunslinger is correct. State sponsered university, not a private college. They had two choices, different image or remove the crosses. You can bet they wished they used a different picture of the student section.

Dogman

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Nov 1, 2012 21:14:09   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Wahawk wrote:
Definitely a sad state of affairs when "Freedom OF Religion" has been turned into "Freedom FROM Religion" !!

Time for the AMERICAN masses to take back their own country!


It has always been freedom from religion, the very concept was designed to create a wall between the functions of government and the functions of religion. Who are the masses you reference? Who has taken "their" country? The last time I looked it was our country everyone of us. This is not a country of us and them. However, if you believe it to be a country of us and them then you are most likely one of the "them" because the rest of us like our Constitution and will not stand for the likes of you tearing it down to put your faith-based agenda in its place. Now, that I have cleared that up I would suggest you read the constitution and ask questions before you publicly rebuke its meaning embarrassing yourself in the process.

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Nov 1, 2012 21:15:22   #
bygeorge Loc: Fl.<N.J.<Fl.
 
Gnslngr wrote:
Wahawk wrote:
Definitely a sad state of affairs when "Freedom OF Religion" has been turned into "Freedom FROM Religion" !!


Yup. Problem is that that pesky constitution of the US of A guarantees that the taxpayers of Louisiana (which funds the school) don't have to pay for any propaganda for any particular religion, or any religion at all. When this country was founded, it's citizenry DID want freedom from state sponsored religion - that's why they left their countries. :thumbup:
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Nov 1, 2012 21:20:30   #
Dogman Loc: Michigan
 
As far as the god statement on the currency it is relatively a recent addition. The founders would never have permitted it to happen.[/quote]

Wikipedia "In God we trust" has appeared on U.S. coins since 1864[3] and on paper currency since 1957.[4] Some secularists object to its use.[5]

Dogman

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Nov 1, 2012 21:34:25   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
bygeorge wrote:
Gnslngr wrote:
Wahawk wrote:
Definitely a sad state of affairs when "Freedom OF Religion" has been turned into "Freedom FROM Religion" !!


Yup. Problem is that that pesky constitution of the US of A guarantees that the taxpayers of Louisiana (which funds the school) don't have to pay for any propaganda for any particular religion, or any religion at all. When this country was founded, it's citizenry DID want freedom from state sponsored religion - that's why they left their countries. :thumbup:
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Or maybe they didn't want it took appear that the students in the school were goofy since they were painting their bodies. I always wonder about the mental capacity of people that go to those extremes to make their point.

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Nov 1, 2012 21:48:43   #
ngc1514 Loc: Atlanta, Ga., Lancaster, Oh. and Stuart, Fl.
 
All this kvetching by the religionists sounds like they are realizing that the United States was the first purely secular government in the history of the world and it's becoming more so with each passing decade.

Religion was a mighty force back in the early days of the nation; it has been reduced to whining about photoshopping out a few symbols on the painted on the bodies of some possibly drunk students. Or the inability to put the little baby and sheep show on in a public park.

The dechristianization of the nation continues apace.

Thank god.

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Nov 1, 2012 21:51:09   #
Gnslngr
 
ngc1514 wrote:
All this kvetching by the religionists sounds like they are realizing that the United States was the first purely secular government in the history of the world and it's becoming more so with each passing decade.

Religion was a mighty force back in the early days of the nation; it has been reduced to whining about photoshopping out a few symbols on the painted on the bodies of some possibly drunk students. Or the inability to put the little baby and sheep show on in a public park.

The dechristianization of the nation continues apace.

Thank god.
All this kvetching by the religionists sounds like... (show quote)




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Nov 1, 2012 21:56:49   #
DougW Loc: SoCal
 
Gnslngr wrote:
Dogman wrote:
The clause 'free exercise thereof' protects not just religious beliefs but actions made on behalf of those beliefs. Removing those expressions (actions; painted cross) is just another form of our/their freedoms being censored while trying to be PC.

You should be proud to be an American - our laws allow you to come to a public forum such as this and condemn others for their beliefs while making a fool of yourself.

And there was this big bowl of vegetable soup and LO! A man stepped out.
Dogman
The clause 'free exercise thereof' protects not j... (show quote)


The funny thing is, you think I make a fool of myself while you believe in an invisible man in the sky. I have a feeling the fool is you. :thumbup:
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:-)

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