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Jun 7, 2022 10:51:56   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Did you ever hear of "photo gray"? It's a light gray that is used to photograph products. This was briefly mentioned in a description of a product online. Being more observant, I've seen similar gray products being shown on the makers' websites. I didn't find anything online describing it.

Maybe they photograph it in gray so they can add any colors they want later.

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Jun 7, 2022 11:04:19   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
Are you talking about "Photo Gray" cards used to measure exposure settings?

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Jun 7, 2022 11:06:05   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
The only use of the term I've known, to date, was for eyeglass lenses that darken when exposed to sunlight (UV).

Photographically, it might be used for illuminating products with a neutral color light. Such as reflecting the illuminating source off a photo gray material. I've never seen or read of this being done but can see some benefits.
--Bob
jerryc41 wrote:
Did you ever hear of "photo gray"? It's a light gray that is used to photograph products. This was briefly mentioned in a description of a product online. Being more observant, I've seen similar gray products being shown on the makers' websites. I didn't find anything online describing it.

Maybe they photograph it in gray so they can add any colors they want later.

Ideas?

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Jun 7, 2022 11:07:10   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
As in photo grey ink?
It's a true grey ink instead of printing dithered black which requires the perception of the viewer to see the mix of little black dots on a white background as "grey".
I would imagine for the purists???

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Jun 7, 2022 11:25:19   #
BlackRipleyDog
 
I have a friend who is a graphics designer in the communications department of a local university research department. This department was moving from one building to another on campus and as part of renovations she specified a paint for her office that was true 18% grey with no blues as she described it so that it would not skew her perception of the Pantone color selections on her work surface. She had to go outside the Facilities Management to source this paint.

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Jun 7, 2022 11:29:30   #
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bsprague wrote:
Are you talking about "Photo Gray" cards used to measure exposure settings?

No. He talking about background paper and cloth. Thaz where the term applies.

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Jun 7, 2022 11:31:41   #
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rmalarz wrote:
The only use of the term I've known, to date, was for eyeglass lenses that darken when exposed to sunlight (UV).

Photographically, it might be used for illuminating products with a neutral color light. Such as reflecting the illuminating source off a photo gray material. I've never seen or read of this being done but can see some benefits.
--Bob

Loss of light is a benefit ?

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Jun 7, 2022 11:40:32   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
I would assume it is a true neutral gray. Background paper is available in many shades of gray, cool or warm. Sometimes you want one with no color tint.

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Jun 7, 2022 12:02:41   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Controlling light is a benefit.
--Bob
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Loss of light is a benefit ?

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Jun 7, 2022 12:56:28   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
BlackRipleyDog wrote:
I have a friend who is a graphics designer in the communications department of a local university research department. This department was moving from one building to another on campus and as part of renovations she specified a paint for her office that was true 18% grey with no blues as she described it so that it would not skew her perception of the Pantone color selections on her work surface. She had to go outside the Facilities Management to source this paint.


Right. I found that online.

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Jun 7, 2022 12:59:07   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
User ID wrote:
No. He talking about background paper and cloth. Thaz where the term applies.


Close. I meant the product itself being gray, although I could not find anything about this online. As I said above, it wass mentioned in a couple of videos - "photo gray for product photography."

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Jun 7, 2022 13:57:56   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Okay, I found an answer. It's "Photographic Grey." Locomotives, mostly in England, would be painted gray when they were being photographed for advertising - to sell them to railroads. This practiced began declining in the 1920s when photography improved.

"The solution was to paint the entire locomotive a mid-grey (usually approximate to the modern shade of slate grey). This light colour reproduced well on the photographic plates and picked out the shadows and shading produced by the various components (such as the valve gear and wheel spokes) allowing them to be recorded in detail. Often a variant of the company's standard livery (such as the lining or company name and crest) would be applied in a darker shade of grey to complete the picture's use for publicity."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photographic_grey

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Jun 7, 2022 14:17:18   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Okay, I found an answer. It's "Photographic Grey." Locomotives, mostly in England, would be painted gray when they were being photographed for advertising - to sell them to railroads. This practiced began declining in the 1920s when photography improved.

"The solution was to paint the entire locomotive a mid-grey (usually approximate to the modern shade of slate grey). This light colour reproduced well on the photographic plates and picked out the shadows and shading produced by the various components (such as the valve gear and wheel spokes) allowing them to be recorded in detail. Often a variant of the company's standard livery (such as the lining or company name and crest) would be applied in a darker shade of grey to complete the picture's use for publicity."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photographic_grey
Okay, I found an answer. It's "Photographic ... (show quote)


This makes sense. It is usually difficult to capture any detail in a locomotive photograph when the engine has a slightly weathered coat of flat black paint (sometimes even gloss black). Locomotive paint seems to have the ability to literally suck light from the sky, almost as if it were a black hole devouring photons. Years ago, I had great difficulty photographing UP 3985 (the Challenger) on film when it came through our area. Several tries over several days yielded limited success.

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Jun 7, 2022 14:27:06   #
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JohnSwanda wrote:
I would assume it is a true neutral gray. Background paper is available in many shades of gray, cool or warm. Sometimes you want one with no color tint.

Correctly assumed.

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Jun 7, 2022 14:29:04   #
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rmalarz wrote:
Controlling light is a benefit.
--Bob

Throwing light away is not controlling it. Thaz why reflector are white, not gray.

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