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Apr 25, 2022 19:24:20   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
There is only one thing that makes a dream impossible to achieve: an old camera.

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Apr 25, 2022 20:12:06   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
burkphoto wrote:
Lumix just keeps adding new features to their current models via firmware updates. They are nearly always pre-announced. They stop when the hardware no longer supports the new features.


No problem with that.
As I said do an update and re-label it as a new higher priced model.
Most companies have for some time as you say provide firmware updates to existing models.

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Apr 25, 2022 23:45:06   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Architect1776 wrote:
No problem with that.
As I said do an update and re-label it as a new higher priced model.
Most companies have for some time as you say provide firmware updates to existing models.


In the early 2000s, firmware updates for Canons and Nikons rarely added any new features. They just fixed bugs in the firmware. The prevailing philosophy was that you wouldn't buy a new camera if you didn't have a reason to. The reason was that you had to buy new hardware to get the new firmware features in it.

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Apr 26, 2022 00:33:41   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
TommiRulz wrote:
Ok I know we are having trouble with the supply of chips etc... But as a camera "junkie" - I am bored, and I want to start seeing new cameras come out. Before Covid the camera companies would release 5 to 6 new cameras a year. Last year Canon only released 1. So does anyone have any insight on when we will start to see more cameras released?


Cameras? What about cars? Nothing new on any of the lots locally. All used with overinflated prices. I want to buy a new Corvette and the only way to do that is order it and wait MONTHS! Or go find a rare one on a lot and pay $16,000 over MSRP. RIDICULOUS!!! LGB

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Apr 26, 2022 07:16:55   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
burkphoto wrote:
In the early 2000s, firmware updates for Canons and Nikons rarely added any new features. They just fixed bugs in the firmware. The prevailing philosophy was that you wouldn't buy a new camera if you didn't have a reason to. The reason was that you had to buy new hardware to get the new firmware features in it.


That was then not now.

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Apr 26, 2022 13:49:33   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Architect1776 wrote:
That was then not now.


Of course. The point I'm making is that the world has changed in favor of software (firmware is just software flashed onto a ROM chip). It is a mindset that came from the computing industry. The camera companies used to release new flagships every 7-12 years or so. For a while with digital, it was happening every year to three years. Now that development has matured a bit, and firmware updates can extend the market life of a model, the camera manufacturers are less eager to hack up new bodies every few years.

The economy has an influence, too, as does the shrinking market for adjustable cameras. Smartphones ate the bottom of the market almost out of existence in about a decade. The cost of development remains similar, though, so it takes longer to recover it from sales.

There are all sorts of doomslingers out there. "Brand X is dead." "Format Y is dead." "Brand Z is no longer #2..." I look at it as a bit irrelevant. Buy what you need. The market for used gear is HUGE. If your brand dies tomorrow, you probably have plenty of used gear from which to choose, at bargain basement prices, because the "herd" will have jumped on some other format.

I used Nikons and Canons for years. Nikon was always fond of saying they hadn't changed their lens mount in decades. Canon showed them the foolishness of that at one point, by coming out in the mid-1980s with the EOS system and the EF mount. We had just bought an A-1 that used FD/FL mount. Did we care? Meh. No, actually. We applauded.

Years later, as AF became important and electronic lens control became important, Canon found it easier to produce digital cameras that sold well. They made sense.

Still, the SLR concept and its complex mechanics was a problem for some of us. The digital camera is essentially a video camera. We wanted to be able to use it that way. Mirrorless designs solved that.

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Apr 26, 2022 23:54:08   #
Nickaroo
 
dick ranez wrote:
Camera companies are having a difficult time delivering the cameras they have already announced. Wait time on the Nikon Z9 is supposedly a year, the Canon R3 some what shorter. Why whet appetites you can't feed? Use the time to master your current gear - when was the last time you picked up your owner's manual? Concentrate on new lenses or new lighting techniques or new whatever. The intriguing thing about photography is there is always something to learn, something to improve, and yes, something to "want".
Camera companies are having a difficult time deliv... (show quote)


My Friend's and I received our Z9's a month ago. One of my Friends just received His New Canon R5 about a month ago. You should find a reputable Dealer and that will lead You to the Promise Land. I have a Friend who is Authorized to sell Sony, Canon, Nikon, And Fuji and there have been zero problems getting the new models since the 2nd week of January.

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