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Must a 50mm be "nifty"?
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Dec 17, 2021 07:56:51   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
BebuLamar wrote:
A typical 50mm lens like a 50mm f/1.8 is nifty because you don't get an f/1.8 lens for $200 except for the 50mm. However, those exotic 50, 55, 58mm that cost in the thousands are not nifty.

So is a "nifty-fifty" based on price or versatility?

Bet no one knows.......

Or did someone just happen to call it that
and it caught on,
you know, like cutesy-wootsy. and tighty-whitey.

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Dec 17, 2021 07:57:17   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I'm in the same camp. When I hear/read that phrase, my first thought is a "wannabe" trying to sound like a photographer.
--Bob
Orphoto wrote:
There are a fair number of photographers who seem to be unable to refer to a 50mm lens without adding the cutesy label "nifty".

In extremely small doses I smile. Beyond that I cringe.

I understand the history and derivation. Back in the day most cameras were sold with a 50mm lens. More often than not you had one lying around. These days it is an investment in that focal length, just like any other.

No other focal length is afflicted with such a nickname.

Why must some seemingly always attach the nifty when speaking of a 50?

Grumpy older man or silent majority?
There are a fair number of photographers who seem ... (show quote)

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Dec 17, 2021 08:01:44   #
Abo
 
User ID wrote:
I cringe just like you. But that stoopid adjective is useful. Use of it tags the user for me. It’s a shortcut to knowing who to think of as dismissible. Another tag is ANY mention of old man Adams (context not withstanding).

Other self tagging stoopidity is stuff like referring to a Panasonic as “a Panny” or any similar faux hipness.


Spelling stupidity "stoopidity" is stupidity.

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Dec 17, 2021 08:12:38   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The adult name for gummies is edibles.

Canon once had a lens called the magic drainpipe.

The industry name for mirrorless is today.

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Dec 17, 2021 08:13:02   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rmalarz wrote:
I'm in the same camp. When I hear/read that phrase, my first thought is a "wannabe" trying to sound like a photographer.
--Bob


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Dec 17, 2021 08:15:49   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Longshadow wrote:
♪ ♫ ♪ "I don't wanna grow up, I'm a ... ."♫ ♪ ♪



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Dec 17, 2021 08:29:24   #
Canisdirus
 
I could not care less about what terms are bandied about by others.

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Dec 17, 2021 08:32:48   #
srt101fan
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
This thread reminds me of that scene for "My Fair Lady" where Henry Higgins sings "Why Can't the English Teach Their Childre How to Speak"

Slang., lingo, jargon, hackneyed colloquialisms, bizarre abbreviations, computer terminology and online cute abbreviations, endless technobabble and millions of acronyms, military words, communications language that originated with morse code, and kinda "buzz-words" that some folks think will make an outsider an instant insider are all ever-present. Every profession, business, art, craft, hobby, sport, has photography is no exception. Some are passing fads and some stick forever. It is a fact of life and we just gotta live with it. Fortunately, some of the really annoying ones fade away but eventually will be replaced with new ones.

I remember when portrait photographers were considered "low-class" if they told clients "I'm gonna shoot your kid, soup the negs, pull some proffs, and then you'll pick the shots one you like for blowups and yes, I will retouch the diaperrash! Now the upscale snobbish crowd wod say NO!!! We photograph you, children, create a set of "previews" or worse"debut prints" ("Proofs" are a dirty word) from which you can select for our Masterpiece collection of fine portraiture"! We don't retouch- we ENHANCE! God forbid you should ask for a "deposit" or a retainer, it is an "INVESTMENT! No wonder folks are shooting selfies for family pictures. Oh, and photographic consultants or salespersons were called "proof passers". They were carefully chosen among folks who were up to the ears in debt, desperate for money, and only given commission on sales! SHARKS!

Thumbnails, Why not toenails? The next time one of my assists says "copy that-boss "I will escort him to the roof and throw him off!

Flash GUN?- watt are we using flash powder in a T-Gun that is triggered with flint! Is it I.S.O, I-sew, I-so- who cares? An electronic flash unit, a Speedlight, a mono-light, or a studio flash unit is not really a STROBE. An actual stroboscopic light source is a rapidly repeating flash that is used for photographic motion studies, special effects, automotive engine timing, emergency lights atop a police car, or warning lights on road hazard barricades. OH, did anyone actually mash potatoes with a Metz "flashgun"!

Why is a low-profile, non-retro-focus lens call a "pancake"- do we clean it with maple syrup?

Ever been on a motion-picture production set. Do the age beer in a KEG-light. After you mount a huge Panavision camera on a TOP-HAT- do you place it on the camera operator's head? I have work still on several of these sets and it took me weeks to decipher their lingo.

"Nifty-Fifty" sounds more friendly than a 50mil. sound more lie is a 50mm Browning heavy machine gun that was developed during WWII.

Barndoors belong in the farmyard, snoots are par of an anteater, what's so beautiful about a "beauty light" to look lie a round stainless-steel sink with a drain at the center, with its built-in stopper in the raised position. Why not call it a "sink light"? If you still do a film in the darkroom, you cou use it alternately as a print washer!

My many the 50 is considered a "normal" but who around here is "NORMAL"? Photographers are supposed to be eccentric. That is what would happen if drilled another hole, off-center on a vinyl record and played it on your concentric turntable

Even the cuss words have changed and vary with ethnic and national roots. When I drop a heavy tripod in my foot, I can yell BOLIX, BUBKIS. or a few French-Canadian terms that pertain to artifacts of the church and nobody gets offended.

My advice, if a word annoys you, don't use it or encourage it, others will follow suit. If you broadcast the fact that doesn't like it- some folks will use it more to annoy you!

10-7 Good Buddy or QRT!


This thread reminds me of that scene for "My ... (show quote)


Nifty response, Ed! ☺

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Dec 17, 2021 08:35:09   #
machia Loc: NJ
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If it's the plastic fantastic 50 at f/1.8, yes, it is a nifty 50 too. But, if urban hipsters from Brooklyn are just applying 'nifty' to any ol' 50, including the $1000 all the way to $2200 offerings from Sony, Nikon and Canon, it's really just that their whiskers have grown too far into their brains.

On a slightly different note concerning the 50mm, I ask you this question because I’ve seen your posts over the years that have included a lot of technical knowledge; In reference to what mm the human eye is, the 50mm is often said to be the focal length of the human eye, not in terms of peripheral sight, but in terms of actual view. In other words when you look through a 50mm (not through an APS-C) of course, what you see is what you get. But I find that to be slightly inaccurate. When I look through my old 58mm Rokkor “I see what I get”. Some people say it’s more like a 55mm. Just curious to know what it actually is!
Thank you in advance.

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Dec 17, 2021 08:44:45   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
Mac wrote:
I never understood the “Nifty” baby talk. I always thought it was generational, like adults taking gummie bear vitamins. Also Oly for Olympus or Pany for Panasonic. They never really grew up. We always called it “50mm” or a “normal” lens.


Perhaps you grew up (got old) too quickly?

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Dec 17, 2021 08:49:59   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
Do most Hoggers love their kit? Yes they do! My first 50 was a Pentax lens bought with my Pentax S1A round about 1965. It did by far the most of what I needed. Nifty Fifty was a term of endearment, which I was, and still am, happy to adopt.

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Dec 17, 2021 09:00:17   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Delderby wrote:
Do most Hoggers love their kit? Yes they do! My first 50 was a Pentax lens bought with my Pentax S1A round about 1965. It did by far the most of what I needed. Nifty Fifty was a term of endearment, which I was, and still am, happy to adopt.

I get the impression that some Hoggers worry about and take better care of their camera gear than their car or other things.
Yes, they do love them.

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Dec 17, 2021 09:01:52   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Longshadow wrote:
♪ ♫ ♪ "I don't wanna grow up, I'm a ... ."♫ ♪ ♪



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Dec 17, 2021 09:08:00   #
StevenG Loc: Long Island, NY
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If it's the plastic fantastic 50 at f/1.8, yes, it is a nifty 50 too. But, if urban hipsters from Brooklyn are just applying 'nifty' to any ol' 50, including the $1000 all the way to $2200 offerings from Sony, Nikon and Canon, it's really just that their whiskers have grown too far into their brains.


I was born and raised in Brooklyn, and lived there for the first nineteen of my seventy five years. I’ll always be a Brooklynite, but I’ve never been referred to as an urban hipster!

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Dec 17, 2021 09:10:49   #
photon-collector Loc: Tampa Bay Area, Florida
 
Abo wrote:
You, unlike most (and kudos for that) argued with a rhyme... it's
even less likely that a song will be disputed... You're
gunna love this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysFrt3V7nvI

It's just human nature Orphoto.

What gets up my nose like a giant corn flake is
those in the motorcycle community that refer
to a 250cc bike as a "two fiddy"...
the things you hear when you haven't got a machine gun!


Wait....wait....wait, Abo. One of my favorite beers made by Oscar Blues, is called "Ten Fiddy." Yup, 10.5% alcohol.

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