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Nov 10, 2021 13:11:16   #
pego101
 
Apple stuff is overpriced stick with windows and dell

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Nov 10, 2021 13:19:08   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
The Dell XPS is listed. A couple of cautions... I ordered it with the 256GB M.2 with the intent of adding two 1TB M.2 and was immediately informed that the warranty would be void... when it arrived, I spent a week stress testing it to make sure it would last. The BIOS and the graphics card driver had been updated 3 times since those installed. The BIOS was set to the processor graphics and not the graphics card. The M.2 drive had the poorest performance ever encountered; I've thrown better stuff out. The drive had been raided (which doesn't work so well with M.2). With the improvements, benchmark testing showed the revised laptop was nearly twice as much. Since their market is not likely those with computer savvy, you would think they would look after this.

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Nov 10, 2021 13:29:42   #
JohnR Loc: The Gates of Hell
 
Kevin.M wrote:
My 2013 MacBook Pro with is processing photos painfully slow and Topaz DeNoise will not launch.

I need to replace this machine. I looked at the new MacBook computers, they are running in the $2500.00 plus tax range, for a computer that has a 14 inch screen and I’m not in love with having to carry a thunderbolt adaptor. The new Macbook weighs 3.5 lbs and because I travel with it, weight is a big consideration.

Can I get suggestions for a laptop to replace this my mac , I have no issue changing over to a Windows OS.

I use Lightroom CC & Topaz DeNoise at this time.

I store my photo’s on an external hardrive and will probably continue to do so. I shoot anywhere from 1000 to 3000 images a year.

Thanks in advance for help with this search.

~Kevin
My 2013 MacBook Pro with is processing photos pain... (show quote)


The Retina displays of Macbooks are worth their weight in gold. To get an equivalent quality display in a Windows laptop you will pay almost as much as the Macbook. A later model 2nd hand Macbook, IMO, is a better buy than a new Windows laptop.

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Nov 10, 2021 13:57:40   #
pego101
 
JohnR wrote:
The Retina displays of Macbooks are worth their weight in gold. To get an equivalent quality display in a Windows laptop you will pay almost as much as the Macbook. A later model 2nd hand Macbook, IMO, is a better buy than a new Windows laptop.


Totally disagree. Apple Is great with meaningless buzzwords like retina display its a standard Samsung oled display I suspect. Apple is way overpriced when compared to windows and I don't think Apple has invented yet touch displays on laptops

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Nov 10, 2021 14:01:28   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
This was the display I ordered...

15.6" UHD+ (3840 x 2400) InfinityEdge Touch Anti-Reflective 500-Nit Display

and it's the nicest laptop screen I've seen...

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Nov 10, 2021 14:14:35   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Gene51 wrote:
Or a Windows laptop with a couple of spare batteries. And yes, you can certainly kick up the performance on any mid-level or higher PC - faster clock, faster memory, faster SSDs, more internal m.2 SSDs, current, not last year's GPU, etc etc etc. For $2200, I got a Intel 11th gen i7 with 8 cores, an Nvidia 3000 series graphics with 8 gb vram, 32 gb system ram (user upgradeable to 64 gb just a single screw), and a pair of Gen 4 m.2 SSD drives, 2 TB each, and those are easily upgradeable if needed to a pair of 4 TB. And there is still a 2.5" bay for cheaper SATA drives - (mechanical or SSD). The system has a Control Center that lets me operate quietly (low power), regular, or "high performance" which is actually noticeably faster but much noisier - it runs the fans at full speed. All for $2200. Additional batteries are $100 each, and powers the machine for an extra 3 hours. Apple can't come close. If I were to buy one today, I'd get the Ryzen 9 5900HX CPU with 8 cores, which is even faster, and compares favorably with the M1. Just sayin'
Or a Windows laptop with a couple of spare batteri... (show quote)


https://www.youtube.com/c/MaxTechOfficial/videos

I no longer care about Apple's hardware not being upgradeable. I bought The M1 MacBook Air with full 16GB unified memory and enough SSD storage (1TB) to be fully functional for what I do. Pricey? A bit. But it's not going to need a clean-out of fans or memory slots, since there are no fans and the memory is soldered.

What I care about is the utility of the ecosystem. It all just works, silently. My iPhone and Mac are connected via the iCloud servers. All my digital life is available on either device. Contacts, calendar, files, notes, reminders, text messages, email, iPhone photos, music, books, and more, all sync. All I did was sign in with my Apple ID and overnight, everything was there, same as it was on my older iMac. I don't play <any> video games, so that's not an issue.

I don't need to carry three batteries, because my M1 MacBook Air battery lasts 17 hours watching movies at a comfortable brightness level. It lasts 8 to 12 hours doing productivity tasks, including audio and video editing, Lightroom, and Photoshop.

With Thunderbolt, I just plug in external devices for expansion. A sub-$100 dock gives me plenty of connectivity options, and if I need more speed or ports, nearly anything will connect via Thunderbolt 3/USB4 at 40Gbps on each of two separate buses. CalDigit and OWC make some killer hubs and docks for one cable connectivity. I'll add external drives as needed for backup and additional storage on the road.

Do I wish I had more ports on the computer? Yes, and I wish the M1 models supported more than one external monitor (the M1 Max supports four, while the M1 Pro supports three). But realistically, one external screen is all I need, and the CharJen Pro Universal Dock 2 is a speedy and reliable solution (Thanks, Matt Granger, for the review).

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Nov 10, 2021 14:18:24   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
JohnR wrote:
The Retina displays of Macbooks are worth their weight in gold. To get an equivalent quality display in a Windows laptop you will pay almost as much as the Macbook. A later model 2nd hand Macbook, IMO, is a better buy than a new Windows laptop.


Not all applications support the higher pixel count of Retina displays. When you do scaling, just so you can see the tiny text on a 4K or 5K display, away goes the benefit of all of those pixels. I don't know of a single high-end display used for critical color work in a corporate graphics department that is a Retina. Some are using XDR, which are 6K displays, even though they cannot be color profiled by the end user.

BTW, Apple doesn't make displays - iPad screens are made by Samsung, Macbook and iPod Touch are made by LG and JDI (Japan Display Inc.), as well as other mfgrs for their other display products. These and other manufacturers offer 4k and 5k displays that are spitten images for the Apple stuff, often for a little less money, they can't call them Retina, which is an Apple trademark, but they are OLED and high pixel density, just like the Apple stuff. Eizo, Samsung, Acer, Benq, Sony, Viewsonic, LG, Dell - all offer high pixel count IPS/OLED, wide gamut displays, that are comparable to Apple's retinas.

I'd rather have the equivalent weight of a retina in gold . . . to do with as I wish . . .

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Nov 10, 2021 14:19:18   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
burkphoto wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/c/MaxTechOfficial/videos

I no longer care about Apple's hardware not being upgradeable. I bought The M1 MacBook Air with full 16GB unified memory and enough SSD storage (1TB) to be fully functional for what I do. Pricey? A bit. But it's not going to need a clean-out of fans or memory slots, since there are no fans and the memory is soldered.

What I care about is the utility of the ecosystem. It all just works, silently. My iPhone and Mac are connected via the iCloud servers. All my digital life is available on either device. Contacts, calendar, files, notes, reminders, text messages, email, iPhone photos, music, books, and more, all sync. All I did was sign in with my Apple ID and overnight, everything was there, same as it was on my older iMac. I don't play <any> video games, so that's not an issue.

I don't need to carry three batteries, because my M1 MacBook Air battery lasts 17 hours watching movies at a comfortable brightness level. It lasts 8 to 12 hours doing productivity tasks, including audio and video editing, Lightroom, and Photoshop.

With Thunderbolt, I just plug in external devices for expansion. A sub-$100 dock gives me plenty of connectivity options, and if I need more speed or ports, nearly anything will connect via Thunderbolt 3/USB4 at 40Gbps on each of two separate buses. CalDigit and OWC make some killer hubs and docks for one cable connectivity. I'll add external drives as needed for backup and additional storage on the road.

Do I wish I had more ports on the computer? Yes, and I wish the M1 models supported more than one external monitor (the M1 Max supports four, while the M1 Pro supports three). But realistically, one external screen is all I need, and the CharJen Pro Universal Dock 2 is a speedy and reliable solution (Thanks, Matt Granger, for the review).
https://www.youtube.com/c/MaxTechOfficial/videos b... (show quote)


This is interesting from an Apple m1 user regarding memory leaks:

https://www.macworld.com/article/549755/m1-macbook-app-memory-leaks-macos.html

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Nov 10, 2021 14:20:58   #
pego101
 
burkphoto wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/c/MaxTechOfficial/videos

I no longer care about Apple's hardware not being upgradeable. I bought The M1 MacBook Air with full 16GB unified memory and enough SSD storage (1TB) to be fully functional for what I do. Pricey? A bit. But it's not going to need a clean-out of fans or memory slots, since there are no fans and the memory is soldered.

What I care about is the utility of the ecosystem. It all just works, silently. My iPhone and Mac are connected via the iCloud servers. All my digital life is available on either device. Contacts, calendar, files, notes, reminders, text messages, email, iPhone photos, music, books, and more, all sync. All I did was sign in with my Apple ID and overnight, everything was there, same as it was on my older iMac. I don't play <any> video games, so that's not an issue.

I don't need to carry three batteries, because my M1 MacBook Air battery lasts 17 hours watching movies at a comfortable brightness level. It lasts 8 to 12 hours doing productivity tasks, including audio and video editing, Lightroom, and Photoshop.

With Thunderbolt, I just plug in external devices for expansion. A sub-$100 dock gives me plenty of connectivity options, and if I need more speed or ports, nearly anything will connect via Thunderbolt 3/USB4 at 40Gbps on each of two separate buses. CalDigit and OWC make some killer hubs and docks for one cable connectivity. I'll add external drives as needed for backup and additional storage on the road.

Do I wish I had more ports on the computer? Yes, and I wish the M1 models supported more than one external monitor (the M1 Max supports four, while the M1 Pro supports three). But realistically, one external screen is all I need, and the CharJen Pro Universal Dock 2 is a speedy and reliable solution (Thanks, Matt Granger, for the review).
https://www.youtube.com/c/MaxTechOfficial/videos b... (show quote)


Soldered memory very bad

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Nov 10, 2021 14:23:00   #
pego101
 
Gene51 wrote:
Not all applications support the higher pixel count of Retina displays. When you do scaling, just so you can see the tiny text on a 4K or 5K display, away goes the benefit of all of those pixels. I don't know of a single high-end display used for critical color work in a corporate graphics department that is a Retina. Some are using XDR, which are 6K displays, even though they cannot be color profiled by the end user.

BTW, Apple doesn't make displays - iPad screens are made by Samsung, Macbook and iPod Touch are made by LG and JDI (Japan Display Inc.), as well as other mfgrs for their other display products.
Not all applications support the higher pixel coun... (show quote)


Of course but fanboys will pay lots more just to get the Apple logo. The requirements of the cult.

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Nov 10, 2021 14:26:32   #
pego101
 
Gene51 wrote:
This is interesting from an Apple m1 user regarding memory leaks:

https://www.macworld.com/article/549755/m1-macbook-app-memory-leaks-macos.html


As Steve Jobs might have said your doing something wrong.

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Nov 10, 2021 14:29:34   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
pego101 wrote:
Of course but fanboys will pay lots more just to get the Apple logo. The requirements of the cult.


Apple makes phones as their main business and where they make the most profit. The rest is there to make a complete "ecosystem" so they can sell more phones and other handheld devices. Their decision to support DCI-P3 as a wide-gamut standard color space - which is really ideal for video editing (similar in color space to the Xenon tubes used in digital projectors), and not great for everything else - especially still photography, which is based on some version of RGB.

From my perspective, own Apple stuff is making a fashion statement. The computers and other gear isn't any better (or worse) than the competition, but it sure is expensive.

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Nov 10, 2021 14:31:59   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
pego101 wrote:
As Steve Jobs might have said your doing something wrong.


But Apple targeted at the non-technical and pretty much idiot proof. Are you telling me that I've been wrong all these years?

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Nov 10, 2021 15:15:08   #
pego101
 
Gene51 wrote:
But Apple targeted at the non-technical and pretty much idiot proof. Are you telling me that I've been wrong all these years?


No

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Nov 10, 2021 17:14:24   #
John Hicks Loc: Sible Hedinham North Essex England
 
What amazed me is that people who have Apple laptops think they are the best and people who have Windows laptops think they they are the best the only difference I see is that Apple costs a lot more money and they are not upgrade friendly as a Windows machine.
Many years ago managed a building in London and a consultancy company changed all their Windows machines for Apple Macs at the behest of their new it manager. About a year after this happened they won contract in which they had to use Engineering Car programs. There were no such programs that would run on Macs of the complexity they needed it cost the company thirty million pounds to buy and equip the latest Windows machines to run this program. Two months later they sacked the IT manager and brought in a guy who specialises in Windows machine that ran engineering cad programmes

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