I've rented the Z6II twice. I was impressed with it. They added a second processor when they went from the Z6 to Z6II for improved AF performance. I used the face and eye detection AF in a studio photo shoot. It worked very well. I think I may buy one soon. I was waiting for the 24-120mm f/4 Z-mount lens to come out.
billnikon wrote:
If your not going to be shooting sports, wildlife or action, then this camera will work great for you.
Can you explain exactly what scenarios with respect to shooting sports, wildlife or action you have found that your Z611 could not handle and give you the results you expected?
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
User ID wrote:
Why do you suppose it works very well for rchadlock for day and night action ? Could it possibly be the user ? What problem(s) is the Z6II causing for your own action shooting ?
I have shot Nikon for over 50 years. But recently for my wildlife and birds in flight images my Sony gear is superior by far to current Nikon gear. I hope Nikon catches up cause I have a lot of Nikon glass. I use my current Nikon gear for landscapes and stills. I will continue to use Sony for everything else.
billnikon wrote:
I have shot Nikon for over 50 years. But recently for my wildlife and birds in flight images my Sony gear is superior by far to current Nikon gear. I hope Nikon catches up cause I have a lot of Nikon glass. I use my current Nikon gear for landscapes and stills. I will continue to use Sony for everything else.
So no actual problem. Just a preference. Different users, and so, differing results.
Having no interest in sports or landscapes I did them only when required, just using whatever gear was on hand. Therefor I’ve got no idea which gear is better, or nearly perfect, for those subjects.
billnikon wrote:
I have shot Nikon for over 50 years. But recently for my wildlife and birds in flight images my Sony gear is superior by far to current Nikon gear. I hope Nikon catches up cause I have a lot of Nikon glass. I use my current Nikon gear for landscapes and stills. I will continue to use Sony for everything else.
Does your response suggest you have not used a Z6 for sports, wildlife or action so you have no first hand experience of its performance/capability or faults in those areas so are simply 'guessing'?
Grahame wrote:
Does your response suggest you have not used a Z6 for sports, wildlife or action so you have no first hand experience of its performance/capability or faults in those areas so are simply 'guessing'?
Why would someone post their personal recommendation based on nothing at all ? That seems just pointless to me. No one around here would stoop to such blatant BS, wouldn’t you think ? Have a bit more faith in your fellow Hawgsters !
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
User ID wrote:
So no actual problem. Just a preference. Different users, and so, differing results.
Having no interest in sports or landscapes I did them only when required, just using whatever gear was on hand. Therefor I’ve got no idea which gear is better, or nearly perfect, for those subjects.
The Z6II is a great value and they fixed some of the focusing issues with a firmware update on the Z6. They took these and added a second focusing system similar to the D500, D5, and D850 in the Z6II.
So, overall you should be fine, the point is Nikon is still a step or two behind Sony and a single step behind Canon at the moment. But image wise and for color processing Nikon has and still is the leader. IMHO
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
Grahame wrote:
Does your response suggest you have not used a Z6 for sports, wildlife or action so you have no first hand experience of its performance/capability or faults in those areas so are simply 'guessing'?
I have been photographing wildlife in Florida for the past 8 years every day of the week. I have rented almost every major mirrorless brands including Canon, Nikon, and Sony. I can confidently state that the best focusing system belongs to the Sony a1, followed closely by the Sony a9 and a9II, followed by Canon and then Nikon. My tests included the Nikon Z6II. I guess you could call my tests guessing, but my images speak for themselves. I am happy with my Sony images followed by Canon and then Nikon. I further believe the Nikon Expeed processing engine the best in the market. But for me, I believe the focusing system of the Sony to be the best in the field. And I have always liked Nikon, check out my screen name.
My tests were the furthest thing from scientific, but my Sony images were the best, sharpest, and most consistent of the big 3.
billnikon wrote:
I have been photographing wildlife in Florida for the past 8 years every day of the week. I have rented almost every major mirrorless brands including Canon, Nikon, and Sony. I can confidently state that the best focusing system belongs to the Sony a1, followed closely by the Sony a9 and a9II, followed by Canon and then Nikon. My tests included the Nikon Z6II. I guess you could call my tests guessing, but my images speak for themselves. I am happy with my Sony images followed by Canon and then Nikon. I further believe the Nikon Expeed processing engine the best in the market. But for me, I believe the focusing system of the Sony to be the best in the field. And I have always liked Nikon, check out my screen name.
My tests were the furthest thing from scientific, but my Sony images were the best, sharpest, and most consistent of the big 3.
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billnikon wrote:
If your not going to be shooting sports, wildlife or action, then this camera will work great for you.
was just ridiculous, because you have provided absolutely nothing that supports that the Z6 is not capable of producing perfectly good results in the areas of sports, wildlife or action.
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
Grahame wrote:
was just ridiculous, because you have provided absolutely nothing that supports that the Z6 is not capable of producing perfectly good results in the areas of sports, wildlife or action.
Just not as good or consistent as from a Sony or Canon. These are my findings. You certainly may not find similar results.
billnikon wrote:
If your not going to be shooting sports, wildlife or action, then this camera will work great for you.
I've shot action, such as barrel racing at very close and far distances, and the Z6ii has performed very well. No complaints.
I've also shot wildlife from squirrels to mountain goats to moose with excellent results. Haven't shot many birds but so far no problems with the ones I did shoot.
Depending on the circumstances it isn't as good as a D500 for action but is better in other ways. It is not as good as a D850 but it's size is significantly smaller and lighter so it is a better choice when packing a camera into the mountains---at least for me.
I've found the view finder to be better than Sony's.
The limited choice of available long lenses is my major complaint.
Overall I would have no problem recommending this camera.
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
fantom wrote:
I've shot action, such as barrel racing at very close and far distances, and the Z6ii has performed very well. No complaints.
I've also shot wildlife from squirrels to mountain goats to moose with excellent results. Haven't shot many birds but so far no problems with the ones I did shoot.
Depending on the circumstances it isn't as good as a D500 for action but is better in other ways. It is not as good as a D850 but it's size is significantly smaller and lighter so it is a better choice when packing a camera into the mountains---at least for me.
The limited choice of available long lenses is my major complaint.
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That is what my draw was initially to Sony, they brought out the 400 2.8, 100-400, 200-600, and 600 f4. The only thing that Nikon has now in Z long is the 100-400.
And Nikon is brining out a 200-600 but their 400 2.8 will have a 1.4 teleconverter built in causing it to be heavier than their current monster weighted 400 2.8, not the game changer I was hoping for.
I love the Nikon system, but they just keep missing the mark when it comes to competing with Canon and Sony.
So, until Nikon can compete at the long lens level, I am sticking with Sony for my wildlife and birds in flight photography.
billnikon wrote:
That is what my draw was initially to Sony, they brought out the 400 2.8, 100-400, 200-600, and 600 f4. The only thing that Nikon has now in Z long is the 100-400.
And Nikon is brining out a 200-600 but their 400 2.8 will have a 1.4 teleconverter built in causing it to be heavier than their current monster weighted 400 2.8, not the game changer I was hoping for.
I love the Nikon system, but they just keep missing the mark when it comes to competing with Canon and Sony.
So, until Nikon can compete at the long lens level, I am sticking with Sony for my wildlife and birds in flight photography.
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I can understand and appreciate your comments but I had a Sony (Alpha A7iii I think) and changed to the Nikon. There were many things I liked about the Sony but they were overshadowed by what I felt were the camera's shortcomings---mainly the ergonomics and overall handling.
Its good that people have different views on these matters cuz it keeps the competition keen and we all benefit.
But---tho I like my Z6ii--- I have felt for a long time that Nikon hates photographers.
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---tho I like my Z6ii--- I have felt for a long time that Nikon hates photographers.
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