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Jan 20, 2022 10:16:14   #
BlackRipleyDog
 
Stephan G wrote:
It does not stoke fear. It reminds us the mindless loss of life. What part of "Pandemic" is not understood?

It is, also, a reminder of a proclaimed "fraud".

Heart disease and cancer are long term conditions. Covid-19 is a short term event (though still continuing).


Covid-19 is also the first instance of a deliberately bio-augmented pathogen that somehow escaped containment.
This memorial on the Mall is just as important as another one practically right next door - The Vietnam Memorial.
We are very adept at creating memorials to human-caused disasters and then in short-order, our so-called leadership soon leads us down the same worn path to another disaster after the lessons supposedly learned earlier fade from memory.
Too bad there isn't a Hippocratic Oath for Politics instead of the default of "First, Do Harm".

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Jan 20, 2022 10:41:43   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
KindaSpikey wrote:
But it was suggested.


No it was not, only in the warped mind was it suggested.

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Jan 20, 2022 10:44:27   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Return to normalcy probably means stop wearing the masks everywhere by mandates and stop the mandating lockdowns and let people live their lives as before. Nobody is saying let the people die, just let people make their own choices without being belittled or condemned.


but thats not what was meant _ read the post. attitudes like that : """I am done with additional boosters and done with the silly masks..""""



is what is prolonging the pandemic

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Jan 20, 2022 10:47:59   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
DennyT wrote:
but thats not what was meant _ read the post. attitudes like that : """I am done with additional boosters and done with the silly masks..""""



is what is prolonging the pandemic


Yes, maybe he is done with being inundated with the pushing from the government. This doesn't necessarily mean he's talking about everyone else. But then again, maybe he should explain.

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Jan 20, 2022 10:51:41   #
KindaSpikey Loc: English living in San Diego
 
Racmanaz wrote:
No it was not, only in the warped mind was it suggested.


Wow, here we go, I think I'm gonna leave it right there. I don't have the time or energy for a pointless argument.

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Jan 20, 2022 11:01:25   #
BlackRipleyDog
 
DennyT wrote:
but thats not what was meant _ read the post. attitudes like that : """I am done with additional boosters and done with the silly masks..""""



is what is prolonging the pandemic


Boosters and masks are not going to attenuate this pandemic. Only after this pathogen has touched 99.99999% of the population and it mutates itself into a less harmful version; will we be out of the woods. Constant boosters harm natural immune systems and the most common cloth masks used are as effective on viruses as screening out mosquitos with a chain-link fence.

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Jun 1, 2022 22:24:54   #
Rob48 Loc: Portland, ME
 
Mubashm wrote:
On Sunday, went to Washington, DC to witness the flags put in front of Washington Monument in remembrance of the victims of Covid19. Here are photos to share with our members.

Mohammed


I agree with Dennis.

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Jun 2, 2022 17:18:08   #
btbg
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Great images. And a great reminder of the ongoing deaths of too many people from COVID.
The comparisons fo deaths from other causes is weak deflection; that contributes nothing to the issue.


Oh, but it does. If we shut down highways because there were too many deaths it would destroy the economy. Exactly what shutting down the economy for covid did. We are paying for those bad decisions now. The funny thing is all of you on the left blame Trump for not acting more decisively, but there wasn't even an accepted treatment for the virus then.

Biden came into office with the shots already being distributed, yet there were more deaths in his first year in office than the last year of Trumps term. So, who really messed up? As usual Biden did. He had all kinds of treatment options available as well as the vaccines, and already had masks and states shut down, yet they had more deaths. So, why the shut downs? Why the masks? Why all the government intrusion when it did nothing?

The deaths are tragic, but as pointed out already, the number of deaths were not much different from the deaths we have year after year from cancer. So, why are we living in fear of the one and largely ignoring the other?

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Jun 2, 2022 17:19:47   #
btbg
 
Mubashm wrote:
I think the discussion is taking wrong way. I am afraid now the photographers will start talking which vaccine is better, Pfizer, Moderna or Johnson and Johnson. I am a photographers and our members are also photographers. Our job is not to discuss a disease and its cure. Of course so many people die every year from Flue, Canser, Heart attacks or lot of other diseases. Moreover, Covid19 is a new disease in our time. To me, there is not any wrong thing done to put the flags in remembrance of victims of Covid19. Being photographers, we should look for the composition and other elements in photo(s) and see if the message has been conveyed in a true spirit of photography.
I think the discussion is taking wrong way. I am a... (show quote)


Photography is good. Appreciate the work. But, since how we reacted to covid was brought up, it is now fair game.

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Jun 2, 2022 17:22:36   #
btbg
 
SX2002 wrote:
I saw, on the news, idiots in the US protesting about the lock-downs in the Eastern states of Australia...our total number of Covid cases, ever, is way less than your death toll each day so I think our governments are doing the right thing. We aren't in lock-down in South Australia, our total number of confirmed, current cases is 3, quite a lot in quarantine just as a safety precaution though.


You live on an isolated island that didn't let people in or out, so of course your cases and death rate are lower. So was Hawaii. So, you think that it is right to destroy people's ability to make in income so that other people who have greater risk are safe? Because that is what your nation is doing.

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Jun 2, 2022 17:29:07   #
btbg
 
Fredrick wrote:
Well, the way I look at your numbers/ categories is, the first two (heart disease/cancer) has to do in large part on how someone takes care of themselves through diet and exercise. The last category, Covid, has to do with a disease put on them through no fault of their own.
Big difference to me.


It really isn't any different because the vast majority of those who died of covid had multiple co-morbidities. In other words they had failed to take care of themselves for years. The very same reason that many people die of heart disease. Those at highest risk for death from covid had diabetes, heart disease, high blood pressure, or all of the above.

Most were over 75, and I venture to say the vast majority would have only lived a year or two longer. I know that sounds harsh, but if you look at the total deaths for 2020 versus 2019 there really aren't very many more deaths. That would suggest that most of those individuals would have died with or without covid, yet we destroyed the economy overreacting to it.

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Jun 2, 2022 17:32:32   #
btbg
 
DennyT wrote:
Return to normalcy !!!!!
So now accept as “” normal “” 3000 preventable deaths ” every day of you fellow Americans as the new normal ??

Shame on you ! That’s sick .

Time to quit speaking nonesense .


How are the deaths preventable? By shutting people up in their houses and never letting them out like China has done? We have a choice. We can live with the virus and the associated risk or we can hide in our homes and never come out. If you want to hide go ahead. I however, chose to live my life even if it means there is risk involved.

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Jun 2, 2022 17:41:15   #
btbg
 
DennyT wrote:
but thats not what was meant _ read the post. attitudes like that : """I am done with additional boosters and done with the silly masks..""""



is what is prolonging the pandemic


You might want to look at the data. Right now those who have had at least one booster are more than twice as likely to get covid than those who have just had two shots. So, anyone who continues to get boosted is not looking at the scientific data. A good example is Bill Gates who recently contracted covid despite having four shots.

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