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General Milley refused Biden's request to resign
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Sep 10, 2021 12:35:27   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
KWK wrote:
Yes, a great success.... Military left, allies and civilians stayed behind. Equipment left behind, they want to disarm the American people and leave many weapons behind. A great success I just can't wait for the next one


So much bull. The last forced to leave were Americans. American forces left no function weapons or equipment behind ( well maybe a few worn out hummers or caterpillars. The rest belong to the afghan forces . Should we have taken every thing back from the afghani forces?

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Sep 10, 2021 12:36:39   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
FrumCA wrote:
The point is that most of this equipment was left behind. We will probably never know the exact value of the abandoned equipment but, not to help resolve relevant questions, the Biden Administration is now hiding key audits on the Afghan military equipment which makes it even more difficult.


Thanks for pointing that out.
Difficult for who ??

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Sep 10, 2021 12:40:36   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Fotoartist wrote:
My guess is that Thoroughly Modern Milley is too important as the champion of the woke culture which drives Biden. Biden doesn't drive it. Milley has had much more important successes against Trump and promoting the war against Conservatives than any mere military challenge.


My guess is you don’t have a clue on the military oath!!!


“””” I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

But that doesn’t surprise me!
“”””

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Sep 10, 2021 12:46:39   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Fotoartist wrote:
BS. Who is checking the Fact Checkers? This article is a pure activist defense of the Biden Afghanistan debacle. 20 million rounds of ammo can't be used, nor body armor and apparel? Apache and Blackhawk helicopters have already been used by the Taliban in Kabul along with armored vehicles none of which were disabled. And even disabling does not prevent reverse engineering by the Chinese or Russians. This goes for the world class Night-vision goggles which were never even mentioned in the article and gives the enemy an enormous tactical advantage. Fact-Check.org is a disgrace as are you.
BS. Who is checking the Fact Checkers? This articl... (show quote)



American forces left no function weapons. What was left was the afghani forces.
A question you have consistently refused to answer .

Should American force have seized everything given to the afghani forces over 20 years ? Of course that have taken far far more troops than the 2500 left in country by the trump “ deal” wouldn’t it — with many casualties.

Well answer the question !

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Sep 10, 2021 15:03:44   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
BadPhoto wrote:
Trump entered into the agreements. Biden followed through and actually got us out of Afghanistan. The choice was to leave, or send more troops. The only reason it looked like America could keep Afghanistan under control with so few troops was because the Taliban was biding their time waiting for America to leave based upon the agreement with Trump.

Whatever happened in Afghanistan is not grounds to impeach anyone. But you can dream your little wet dream.


Trump's plan was May withdrawal not August, had he started early and made the May date the Taliban would have been nowhere near Kabul, they started their campaign in April and were already in control before Biden even started with his flawed plan.

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Sep 10, 2021 15:51:11   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
That’s bull. As soon as Taliban saw the withdrawal start the started openly taking back over.
Wether the withdrawal started in Jan , March May or august . They would have done the same thing. That’s like saying the elevator went up 3 floors ... what floor are you on?

Btw not one person despite numerous challenges has told us what the trump plan was. !!

Still waiting!!

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Sep 10, 2021 16:34:29   #
Wuligal Loc: Slippery Rock, Pa.
 
May I quote you on that, "no function weapons"? I want to feed it back to you when the first American or one of your grandchildren is killed by one of those "no function weapons". There are already body parts of over two hundred dead people laying in the streets of Kabul that got there via our own weapons.

Who the hell paid for the weapons in the first place. WE DID. Those weapons were ours, paid for by American tax dollars and Biden used them to arm the Taliban. The Taliban is now the world's eighth strongest military power in the world thanks to Biden.

Do not EVER forget: Biden gave up the embassy. Biden surrendered Bagram air field. Biden allowed/invited the Taliban to supervise the evacuation. Biden left hundreds of Americans behind. Biden evacuated the military first...before the civilians. Biden called the Taliban "business like and professional" as we watch them (on TV) beat women and reporters with electrical cables in the streets. Biden trusted the Taliban to protect those struggling to get into the airport from harm. Biden stood watch as thirteen American's were killed by the Taliban. Biden was responsible for the two hundred people that were gunned down in Kabul. Biden is responsible for the lack of vetting at the airbases where we're stashing tens of thousands of nameless, faceless, unvaccinated Afghanis. Biden refuses any and all questions about his "evacuation plan".

I'm not a genius but I'm not as stupid as Biden hopes I might be......Biden is using Covid to divert attention from his Afgan debacle and the southern border. Biden has one more rabbit in his hat. Climate change.
Biden is so dependent on that diversion that he's willing to violate the constitution to do it.

Biden can't find his way to the back door without two secret service men pointing the way and the Democratic party gave him the power to run this county with Kamala as a backup. Trump might have been a sleeze bag but he at least knows where the back door is!

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Sep 10, 2021 16:41:21   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
DennyT wrote:
That’s bull. As soon as Taliban saw the withdrawal start the started openly taking back over.
Wether the withdrawal started in Jan , March May or august . They would have done the same thing. That’s like saying the elevator went up 3 floors ... what floor are you on?

Btw not one person despite numerous challenges has told us what the trump plan was. !!

Still waiting!!


You just lack understanding, the Winter months are difficult in Afghanistan and make it hard for the Taliban to advance and control which is why Trump was advised to withdraw in the early Spring, May. Had Joe started with-drawl in early May there would have not Taliban interference as their advances only started in late April when Joe announced his plan. We may still have had suicide bombers in the city near the airports but there would be no American Armed Taliban soldiers occupying the City.

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Sep 10, 2021 17:14:25   #
Steven Loc: So. Milwaukee, WI.
 
It's Biden's puppeteers who are the real fault as to why this country is going to s#@t.

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Sep 10, 2021 17:17:23   #
cwp3420
 
BadPhoto wrote:
Bush/Cheney was responsible for Afghanistan.

Take out the terrorist camps; good idea.

Turn Afghanistan into a democracy; bad idea.

As for Vietnam, there is the Truman Doctrine "assist any country that is threatened by communism", the Eisenhower "domino theory", the Geneva Accords of 1954 (where France, America, Russia, England, and oh, by the way, Vietnam, decided that Vietnam should be split into the North and South and become a united democracy in two years...Hah!), the Kennedy escalation, the Johnson mass escalation including the historically huge bombing of Laos, and the Nixon Vietnamization (and expansion in Laos and Cambodia). One idiot president after another.
Bush/Cheney was responsible for Afghanistan. br ... (show quote)


And yet you and your ilk voted for the biggest idiot of them all.

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Sep 10, 2021 17:18:12   #
cwp3420
 
BadPhoto wrote:
You missed the point. I said Trump entered into the agreements.

Biden did change it. Trumps agreement was for a May withdrawal. Biden change it to August.


Yeah, that really worked out well, didn’t it?

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Sep 10, 2021 17:18:18   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Steven wrote:
It's Biden's puppeteers who are the real fault as to why this country is going to s#@t.


The country's big slide into the poop pile started in January 2017.

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Sep 10, 2021 17:20:56   #
cwp3420
 
DennyT wrote:
Why do you post crap . The 85 billion posted was the total of all 20 years of war.
100,000! Are not coming to America !
Yes 13. Died .so far???? There are no America forces in Afghanistan .


Your English gets worse with every passing day. No wonder you’re a shill for Biden. Your mental processes are in the same sad state of affairs.

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Sep 10, 2021 17:22:45   #
cwp3420
 
Fotoartist wrote:
My guess is that Thoroughly Modern Milley is too important as the champion of the woke culture which drives Biden. Biden doesn't drive it. Milley has had much more important successes against Trump and promoting the war against Conservatives than any mere military challenge.



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Sep 10, 2021 17:24:58   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Are you saying you outsmarted Milley?

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