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Aug 1, 2021 14:17:31   #
Tex-s
 
I only devoted a couple of minutes to Google, and found no article answering the following question. What percentage, or even how many, of the folks being hospitalized (or worse) with the delta Covid variant had already contracted Covid 1.0 ?

It occurs to me that even a single death of a patient who already had Covid 1.0 would be the leading story on every left leaning media outlet, on every leftist late night show, and every official press briefing. That no such story is being pushed out, the assumption must be that there are no such cases and/or that there are so few the media/administration are making sure no one dare ask the question in a public forum.

A sample article, one that does note that those who preached vax vax vax were placing more faith in man that they allowed others to place in God, and admits vacciniated folks are passing infection to other vaccinated folks, fails to mention previously infected people AT ALL.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/29/cdc-mask-guidance/

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Aug 1, 2021 14:25:03   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
Tex-s wrote:
I only devoted a couple of minutes to Google, and found no article answering the following question. What percentage, or even how many, of the folks being hospitalized (or worse) with the delta Covid variant had already contracted Covid 1.0 ?

It occurs to me that even a single death of a patient who already had Covid 1.0 would be the leading story on every left leaning media outlet, on every leftist late night show, and every official press briefing. That no such story is being pushed out, the assumption must be that there are no such cases and/or that there are so few the media/administration are making sure no one dare ask the question in a public forum.

A sample article, one that does note that those who preached vax vax vax were placing more faith in man that they allowed others to place in God, and admits vacciniated folks are passing infection to other vaccinated folks, fails to mention previously infected people AT ALL.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/29/cdc-mask-guidance/
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It will be a long time if ever that all the facts will come out on this. So many things are hidden from the public and the suggestions are constantly changing.

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Aug 1, 2021 16:37:57   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Tex-s wrote:
I only devoted a couple of minutes to Google, and found no article answering the following question. What percentage, or even how many, of the folks being hospitalized (or worse) with the delta Covid variant had already contracted Covid 1.0 ?

It occurs to me that even a single death of a patient who already had Covid 1.0 would be the leading story on every left leaning media outlet, on every leftist late night show, and every official press briefing. That no such story is being pushed out, the assumption must be that there are no such cases and/or that there are so few the media/administration are making sure no one dare ask the question in a public forum.

A sample article, one that does note that those who preached vax vax vax were placing more faith in man that they allowed others to place in God, and admits vacciniated folks are passing infection to other vaccinated folks, fails to mention previously infected people AT ALL.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/29/cdc-mask-guidance/
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Put your faith in god if you want, but isn't he also responsible for the virus?

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Aug 1, 2021 19:28:02   #
Tex-s
 
Frank T wrote:
Put your faith in god if you want, but isn't he also responsible for the virus?


I was referring to barring church attendance, saying no to participation in gay marriage ceremonies, continuing to suggest having a Y chromosome separates man from woman biologically……. I was not referring to the virus CURE per se, but to the secular religion of leftism and the narratives used to forge mandated changes.

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Aug 2, 2021 11:23:10   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Tex-s wrote:
I only devoted a couple of minutes to Google, and found no article answering the following question. What percentage, or even how many, of the folks being hospitalized (or worse) with the delta Covid variant had already contracted Covid 1.0 ?

It occurs to me that even a single death of a patient who already had Covid 1.0 would be the leading story on every left leaning media outlet, on every leftist late night show, and every official press briefing. That no such story is being pushed out, the assumption must be that there are no such cases and/or that there are so few the media/administration are making sure no one dare ask the question in a public forum.

A sample article, one that does note that those who preached vax vax vax were placing more faith in man that they allowed others to place in God, and admits vacciniated folks are passing infection to other vaccinated folks, fails to mention previously infected people AT ALL.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/29/cdc-mask-guidance/
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I have yet to see comprehensive death statistics now after the vaccine roll out like we did during phase one of the pandemic. Why?

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Aug 2, 2021 11:27:43   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Frank T wrote:
Put your faith in god if you want, but isn't he also responsible for the virus?


My God is spelled with a big G and is the God of Israel. So please make the distinction of which God you are referring to.
If you would please grant that much respect.

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Aug 2, 2021 13:19:26   #
neillaubenthal
 
Tex-s wrote:
I only devoted a couple of minutes to Google, and found no article answering the following question. What percentage, or even how many, of the folks being hospitalized (or worse) with the delta Covid variant had already contracted Covid 1.0 ?

It occurs to me that even a single death of a patient who already had Covid 1.0 would be the leading story on every left leaning media outlet, on every leftist late night show, and every official press briefing. That no such story is being pushed out, the assumption must be that there are no such cases and/or that there are so few the media/administration are making sure no one dare ask the question in a public forum.

A sample article, one that does note that those who preached vax vax vax were placing more faith in man that they allowed others to place in God, and admits vacciniated folks are passing infection to other vaccinated folks, fails to mention previously infected people AT ALL.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/29/cdc-mask-guidance/
I only devoted a couple of minutes to Google, and ... (show quote)


My bride was in the medical biz her entire career…and relentlessly tracks the facts about COVID rather than the sensationalism. She reports that while there are some Covid 1 patients getting Delta as well as some vaccinated folk…the vast majority of them have no or mild symptoms. The vast majority of folk in the hospital and/or dying now are unvaccinated.

I’m not in favor of a vaccine mandate…but if there is one the courts will decide on its constitutionality. I’m for choice…we are both vaccinated and had Covid 1…and I respect the choice of those who aren’t…and I also respect their choice to die if that’s what happens…not my problem at this point if they die.

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Aug 2, 2021 13:32:05   #
Tex-s
 
neillaubenthal wrote:
My bride was in the medical biz her entire career…and relentlessly tracks the facts about COVID rather than the sensationalism. She reports that while there are some Covid 1 patients getting Delta as well as some vaccinated folk…the vast majority of them have no or mild symptoms. The vast majority of folk in the hospital and/or dying now are unvaccinated.

I’m not in favor of a vaccine mandate…but if there is one the courts will decide on its constitutionality. I’m for choice…we are both vaccinated and had Covid 1…and I respect the choice of those who aren’t…and I also respect their choice to die if that’s what happens…not my problem at this point if they die.
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Thanks for the input. The problem I’m seeing is that legitimate date is willfully omitted and/or suppressed. As for the anecdotal ‘some folks’, it only makes me more interested in the numbers, as the one story said 74% in one study of delta cases were vaccinated, egging that 74% be broken down into having had Covid 1.0 and not, as well as the remaining 26%. That this is not being done can only lead my to conclude that the least among them ends up being the “had Covid, not vaccine” group. We’re it any other, it would lead the news cycle 20 reps per day.

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Aug 2, 2021 13:42:25   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Tex-s wrote:
I was referring to barring church attendance, saying no to participation in gay marriage ceremonies, continuing to suggest having a Y chromosome separates man from woman biologically……. I was not referring to the virus CURE per se, but to the secular religion of leftism and the narratives used to forge mandated changes.

Why jusy "gay marriage ceremonies"?

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Aug 2, 2021 16:17:10   #
Tex-s
 
I spoke poorly, I note, rereading my post.

The post was intended to show leftists and their would-be mandates barring MY religion but imposing their own. To that end I cited locking down churches (while cheering BLM riots and keeping marijuana and alcohol businesses open). I also TRIED to remind folks of my inability, by mandate of law, to decline participation in gay ceremonies. I see now it was poorly phrased.

It’s so interesting the same people who have always said businesses should have the right to say no to particular patrons based on their OWN choices were first mandated to do or buy as government dictates, based of course, on the lie that a business open to the public must serve everyone. Now, however, the same law suit enamored leftists demanding people violate what the faithful see as the health of their eternal souls, are now demanding EXCLUSION via governmental mandate. What we have is one group consistently suggesting PEOPLE decide for themselves and the other group demanding GOVERNMENT decide, sometimes to compel inclusion, sometimes to compel exclusion. I see only one group as hypocrites, and would-be dictators.

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Aug 2, 2021 19:07:13   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Tex-s wrote:
I spoke poorly, I note, rereading my post.

The post was intended to show leftists and their would-be mandates barring MY religion but imposing their own. To that end I cited locking down churches (while cheering BLM riots and keeping marijuana and alcohol businesses open). I also TRIED to remind folks of my inability, by mandate of law, to decline participation in gay ceremonies. I see now it was poorly phrased.

It’s so interesting the same people who have always said businesses should have the right to say no to particular patrons based on their OWN choices were first mandated to do or buy as government dictates, based of course, on the lie that a business open to the public must serve everyone. Now, however, the same law suit enamored leftists demanding people violate what the faithful see as the health of their eternal souls, are now demanding EXCLUSION via governmental mandate. What we have is one group consistently suggesting PEOPLE decide for themselves and the other group demanding GOVERNMENT decide, sometimes to compel inclusion, sometimes to compel exclusion. I see only one group as hypocrites, and would-be dictators.
I spoke poorly, I note, rereading my post. br b... (show quote)

First, please select the "Quote Reply" right under the post you're responding to, then we'll know who you're responding to. Often on a very active topic, your response won't end up right under the original comment, it could end up way down the page, or several pages later.

I'm making an assumption that you were responding to me.

About your comment that the "faithful see as the health of their eternal souls", most houses of worship pivoted to online services during the shutdown. If your particular house of worship failed to serve their congregation with online services, don't blame their failure to do so on the government.

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Aug 2, 2021 23:56:57   #
cwp3420
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Why jusy "gay marriage ceremonies"?


Because in the eyes of God, homosexuality is an abomination, whether you agree with it or not.

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Aug 3, 2021 00:48:00   #
btbg
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
First, please select the "Quote Reply" right under the post you're responding to, then we'll know who you're responding to. Often on a very active topic, your response won't end up right under the original comment, it could end up way down the page, or several pages later.

I'm making an assumption that you were responding to me.

About your comment that the "faithful see as the health of their eternal souls", most houses of worship pivoted to online services during the shutdown. If your particular house of worship failed to serve their congregation with online services, don't blame their failure to do so on the government.
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On line services and in person services are hardly the same thing. Government is constitutionally forbidden to suppress religion, yet they did, and no one did anything about it. You might get the same message on line, but you certainly don't get the same singing, and you don't get personal interaction with other believers. To try to claim that an on line service is equivalent to an in person service shows a total lack of understanding about what happens in a church service.

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Aug 3, 2021 02:05:33   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
cwp3420 wrote:
Because in the eyes of God, homosexuality is an abomination, whether you agree with it or not.

Only in the eyes of the authors of the Bible.

Sorry, but everyone are God's children, not just the heterosexual.

It's your loss for not accepting those who're different than you are.

As long as they don't "put a move on you", many homosexuals are great people to know, often extremely artistic.

Yes, I've had the pleasure of knowing and working with many homosexuals over the years, and I've never experienced any problem with any of them.

No, I'm not gay nor a lesbian. I'm heterosexual.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/opinion-racism-homophobia-are-forms-domestic-terror-n591031

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Aug 3, 2021 02:07:23   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
btbg wrote:
On line services and in person services are hardly the same thing. Government is constitutionally forbidden to suppress religion, yet they did, and no one did anything about it. You might get the same message on line, but you certainly don't get the same singing, and you don't get personal interaction with other believers. To try to claim that an on line service is equivalent to an in person service shows a total lack of understanding about what happens in a church service.

No, they didn't supress religion, they limited ALL in person gatherings during the shutdown.

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