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Jul 23, 2021 15:07:15   #
Triple G
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I just took a look at your link. Did you happen to notice that link is from New Zealand and NOT the United States? Silly mistake, huh? Look in the upper left hand corner.

While America is a nation built from the labor of immigrants it is also a nation of laws. As you hopefully can admit our immigration laws are not being enforced. It is the job of our federal government to enforce immigration laws and for the most part none of those laws are being enforced. Our Democratic Presidents have delegated a type of non action to be taking place with respect to the illegal aliens entering this country. Of course they do not have the right to do that but I see nobody stopping them. I have personally spoken to border patrol agents who are more than happy to enforce laws applying to illegal aliens but their supervisors are told to basically, stand down, to look the other way.

Dennis
I just took a look at your link. Did you happen t... (show quote)


That’s a secondary link which was listed in the post which included the statement that other countries who also have legacies of being built by immigrants are hamstrung by the same lack of outdated immigration rules. You can look up Australia’s policies too if you need more credence to my statement. Jeep making your way backwards through the thread to my original link.

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Jul 23, 2021 15:15:28   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
kymarto wrote:
Without illegals the US economy would collapse. They do the work no American is willing to do at a fraction of the wage, and without any protection, health care, unemployment, etc. They have no working rights and cannot complain or bring any suit for negligence on the part of the employer, or injury, and can be hired as gig workers and let go at any time. You should be thanking them, not reviling them. Their toil provides you with your standard of living.


Same can be said for slaves... in fact you are representing the party that supported slaves, and touting the advantages they tried to sell us. Tell us why you want slavery made socially acceptable and legal or is it just the concept that appeals to you.

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Jul 23, 2021 15:40:04   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Triple G wrote:
That’s a secondary link which was listed in the post which included the statement that other countries who also have legacies of being built by immigrants are hamstrung by the same lack of outdated immigration rules. You can look up Australia’s policies too if you need more credence to my statement. Jeep making your way backwards through the thread to my original link.


Problem is, we are not discussing the policies of other countries but those of America. America for sometime now has had a law making it illegal for anybody to come across our border without permission. Nonetheless hundreds of thousands to Millions have come across our border and that is recently since Joe Biden was elected.

You will deny it but President Trump did a good job putting limitations on who comes across and when. Immigrants were required to put in applications before crossing into America. Trump worked out deals with other countries where these immigrants would stay until their claim was adjudicated. Then at the drop of the election gavel, Biden erased those positives for America. Biden simply opened the gates and this border crisis is the result. With people all across the country worrying about new and different strains of the virus Biden opened the gates to allow anybody into this country. What difference does it make if every single American had been vaccinated when thousands upon thousands of aliens are spreading across our country just as is the virus.

Here you are on the left complaining about some not being vaccinated when most likely everyone coming into America has not been vaccinated at all. Seems you are showing undue advantage toward illegal aliens when you don't even consider them a danger to Americans with regard to the virus. Yet you want to lock up and put rules and regulations upon American citizens for exercising their right to freedom.

Dennis

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Jul 23, 2021 15:41:04   #
Triple G
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Problem is, we are not discussing the policies of other countries but those of America. America for sometime now has had a law making it illegal for anybody to come across our border without permission. Nonetheless hundreds of thousands to Millions have come across our border and that is recently since Joe Biden was elected.

You will deny it but President Trump did a good job putting limitations on who comes across and when. Immigrants were required to put in applications before crossing into America. Trump worked out deals with other countries where these immigrants would stay until their claim was adjudicated. Then at the drop of the election gavel, Biden erased those positives for America. Biden simply opened the gates and this border crisis is the result. With people all across the country worrying about new and different strains of the virus Biden opened the gates to allow anybody into this country. What difference does it make if every single American had been vaccinated when thousands upon thousands of aliens are spreading across our country just as is the virus.

Here you are on the left complaining about some not being vaccinated when most likely everyone coming into America has not been vaccinated at all. Seems you are showing undue advantage toward illegal aliens when you don't even consider them a danger to Americans with regard to the virus. Yet you want to lock up and put rules and regulations upon American citizens for exercising their right to freedom.

Dennis
Problem is, we are not discussing the policies of ... (show quote)


Go back and follow the thread and you’ll see that it was highjacked by you.

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Jul 23, 2021 15:55:21   #
FRENCHY Loc: Stone Mountain , Ga
 
thom w wrote:
You criticize Biden for making statements he shouldn't have for over 50 years. You then cite such misstatements as proof of his senility. Get off the fence and pick one. They are mutually exclusive, unless you are attempting to make a case that he was senile before he was 30.



Stop pissing on our backs and telling us with a smile that it is ONLY the rain.

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Jul 23, 2021 17:11:22   #
dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii
 
cwp3420 wrote:
So you’re good with letting thousands of people into our country with COVID? You post pablum more than anyone on here. I bet you’re all for masks and vaccines too. MGYFS.


PROVE they're bringing in Covid, IF YOU CAN!!! YES I AM ALL FOR MASKS AND VACCINES. If you choose not to get the vaccine, maybe that will one less Republicant voting. MGYFS (knives?)?

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Jul 23, 2021 19:20:52   #
cwp3420
 
dlwhawaii wrote:
PROVE they're bringing in Covid, IF YOU CAN!!! YES I AM ALL FOR MASKS AND VACCINES. If you choose not to get the vaccine, maybe that will one less Republicant voting. MGYFS (knives?)?


Come on man! That’s what your god says, flyboy. If you’re so intellectually challenged to believe that the thousands flooding in across our borders are COVID free, along with other third world diseases, then no one can reach you. When I worked the border, many people we arrested had communicable diseases. Now, with COVID, it’s even worse. However, I never see you buffoons bitching about Biden letting them in to the U.S. MGYEFS. If that’s possible. Frikken flyboy wannabes.

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Jul 23, 2021 19:30:47   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
dlwhawaii wrote:
PROVE they're bringing in Covid, IF YOU CAN!!! YES I AM ALL FOR MASKS AND VACCINES. If you choose not to get the vaccine, maybe that will one less Republicant voting. MGYFS (knives?)?


I doubt anyone can PROVE illegal aliens are bringing in Covid unless someone contracts the virus specifically from an illegal alien.

But then again the same amount of proof would be needed to show a Conservative who refused the vaccines would have passed the virus on to others. Are you really so anti Conservative white males you feel the need to put all blame on them and none on people who come from areas with, in many cases, poor medical facilities and areas that may not have offered vaccinations even if people wanted them. Do you so hate America you cannot conceive of numerous virus carriers in thousands of people coming across the border?

Dennis

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Jul 23, 2021 20:44:31   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Triple G wrote:
Go back and follow the thread and you’ll see that it was highjacked by you.


High jacked by me…hmmmm…take a good look around. You will see most threads are not what they started out to be once all of us impart our ideas and then those ideas branch out to other ideas.

So what is this BS you are shoveling? C’mon man! Are you bored, just looking for some dim witted excuse to cast blame on a Conservative, can’t find enough corruption and lies on your side of the aisle. Look a little harder. It’s there.

I just did follow the thread at your suggestion. Looks like we started with immigration and are still basically there. Now WTF were you talking about.

Dennis

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Jul 24, 2021 00:23:07   #
dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii
 
cwp3420 wrote:
Come on man! That’s what your god says, flyboy. If you’re so intellectually challenged to believe that the thousands flooding in across our borders are COVID free, along with other third world diseases, then no one can reach you. When I worked the border, many people we arrested had communicable diseases. Now, with COVID, it’s even worse. However, I never see you buffoons bitching about Biden letting them in to the U.S. MGYEFS. If that’s possible. Frikken flyboy wannabes.


MGYFS. MGYEFS. And whatever other nasties you wish to heap on me. Bye the bye, I had the opportunity to go to flight school, but turned it down. I have decided to totally ignore you, which I'm sure you will welcome. Please don't push your luck and do get vaxxed. Up to you totally.

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Jul 24, 2021 09:22:41   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
If so, then he misleads, an action akin to lying and called intellectual dishonesty for leaving out controlling facts and information. Bad faith comes into play as well due to the deception involved.
Over all, this behavior violates the candor and forthrightness we expect from the President (no matter who fill this office).
boberic wrote:
Biden has touted his border policy as lowering the number of illegals held at the border by ICE ( I heard that quote this AM). And I can verify that his claim is correct. But he did NOT explain why it is correct. Turns out that many of those illegals are placed on busses and/or airplanes and moved to many other states througout the country, Lowering the number being held at the border. So biden is NOT lying.But he is very cleverly not telling the whole story.

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Jul 24, 2021 09:46:16   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
anotherview wrote:
If so, then he misleads, an action akin to lying and called intellectual dishonesty for leaving out controlling facts and information. Bad faith comes into play as well due to the deception involved.
Over all, this behavior violates the candor and forthrightness we expect from the President (no matter who fill this office).


You are completely correct. But then again this behavior is exactly the type I have come to expect from Democratic Presidents from Bill Clinton onward.

Dennis

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Jul 24, 2021 20:14:48   #
cwp3420
 
dlwhawaii wrote:
MGYFS. MGYEFS. And whatever other nasties you wish to heap on me. Bye the bye, I had the opportunity to go to flight school, but turned it down. I have decided to totally ignore you, which I'm sure you will welcome. Please don't push your luck and do get vaxxed. Up to you totally.


How many times do I have to explain to you, fly boy, that it’s “by the by”, not “bye the bye”. How could you have been a pilot when you can’t even read and write the English language? And, it’s certainly your prerogative to ignore me. I won’t ignore you though. Also, why didn’t you answer my question about illegals with COVID, fly boy? Cat got your tongue?

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Jul 24, 2021 21:03:31   #
dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii
 
cwp3420 wrote:
How many times do I have to explain to you, fly boy, that it’s “by the by”, not “bye the bye”. How could you have been a pilot when you can’t even read and write the English language? And, it’s certainly your prerogative to ignore me. I won’t ignore you though. Also, why didn’t you answer my question about illegals with COVID, fly boy? Cat got your tongue?


Is it by the by or by the bye?
This phrase can be written in two ways: by the by and by the bye. Both spellings mean the same thing; by the by is the more common variant. This phrase is similar to the phrase “by the way.”

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