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Jul 13, 2021 13:37:40   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Up untill the last 12 years (about) whether you voted democrat or republican didn't make a very big difference. Both sides valued American democracy. The differences may have been important but whoever won wanted democratic principals to endure. But things have changed. Both sides, republicans or democrats are very different. Republicans want American style democratic government priciples to endure. Democrats want a "fundamental change (their words)".They are doing this by slowly teaching our children, by cancel culture, CRT, teaching White supremacy, by teaching that white children are surpressing people of color, that they are evil because of their skin color. Indoctrinating our most vulnerable to believe that the US is an evil country. And that the only way to end this oppression is by adopting "democratic Socialism" This phase of the slow progression of indoctrination happens as those kids get older. Democratic socialism is American Communism. Biden bending to the pressure of the more radical wing of the democratic party. Sanders and the "squad" and others are dictating policy. anders calls himself a "Democratic socialist" but he is an open supporter of Marxist teachings. This slow progression is a long ago (early 1900's) plan to turn this country into a Marxist utopia. It is reaching a turning point. If this process continues American freedom will end. It must be stopped, and very soon, or it may be the end of the American experiment. Maybe this is overstating things but the underlying concepts are accurate. I hope I am wrong. but I just might be right.

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Jul 13, 2021 13:48:28   #
lowkick Loc: Connecticut
 
You are not wrong!

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Jul 13, 2021 14:22:28   #
flathead27ford Loc: Colorado, North of Greeley
 
I agree with you. 100%.

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Jul 13, 2021 14:42:08   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
I think you are right - damn it

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Jul 13, 2021 16:36:44   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
boberic wrote:
Up untill the last 12 years (about) whether you voted democrat or republican didn't make a very big difference. Both sides valued American democracy. The differences may have been important but whoever won wanted democratic principals to endure. But things have changed. Both sides, republicans or democrats are very different. Republicans want American style democratic government priciples to endure. Democrats want a "fundamental change (their words)".They are doing this by slowly teaching our children, by cancel culture, CRT, teaching White supremacy, by teaching that white children are surpressing people of color, that they are evil because of their skin color. Indoctrinating our most vulnerable to believe that the US is an evil country. And that the only way to end this oppression is by adopting "democratic Socialism" This phase of the slow progression of indoctrination happens as those kids get older. Democratic socialism is American Communism. Biden bending to the pressure of the more radical wing of the democratic party. Sanders and the "squad" and others are dictating policy. anders calls himself a "Democratic socialist" but he is an open supporter of Marxist teachings. This slow progression is a long ago (early 1900's) plan to turn this country into a Marxist utopia. It is reaching a turning point. If this process continues American freedom will end. It must be stopped, and very soon, or it may be the end of the American experiment. Maybe this is overstating things but the underlying concepts are accurate. I hope I am wrong. but I just might be right.
Up untill the last 12 years (about) whether you vo... (show quote)


Funny thing is that Sanders tried his hand in the private sector during his younger years and failed miserably...... Only stands to reason that a man who could not make the grade would then become a politician and a socialist.

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Jul 14, 2021 07:42:21   #
CWGordon
 
Don’t worry Boberic, you’re wrong.

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Jul 14, 2021 08:53:33   #
Leo_B Loc: Houston suburb
 
Your points are right but I believe the timeline is short. The democrats have failed since JFK, the last decent person elected as a democrat. The republicans have steadily shifted left as well. The nation is doomed. It's only a matter of time.

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Jul 14, 2021 09:08:58   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Leo_B wrote:
Your points are right but I believe the timeline is short. The democrats have failed since JFK, the last decent person elected as a democrat. The republicans have steadily shifted left as well. The nation is doomed. It's only a matter of time.


The Republicans took a hard right. I am not going to question your intelligence, but your powers of observation suck.
If JFK hadn't been assassinated you'd hate him too.

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Jul 14, 2021 09:13:38   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
thom w wrote:
The Republicans took a hard right. I am not going to question your intelligence, but your powers of observation suck.
If JFK hadn't been assassinated you'd hate him too.


Really, and the left has not veered towards socialism/communism and an authoritarian government with demands of censorship and forced compliance? Their plans for a complete rebuild of our economy in a more equitable fashion.... Give me a break!

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Jul 14, 2021 09:18:01   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Really, and the left has not veered towards socialism/communism and an authoritarian government with demands of censorship and forced compliance? Their plans for a complete rebuild of our economy in a more equitable fashion.... Give me a break!


Give me evidence that the Republicans have moved left, or admit that the post I was addressing was false. Also, show me any evidence that someone who posts the crap he posts could have the education that being a pharmacist requires. You would call Lincoln a RINO.

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Jul 14, 2021 09:54:15   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
thom w wrote:
Give me evidence that the Republicans have moved left, or admit that the post I was addressing was false. Also, show me any evidence that someone who posts the crap he posts could have the education that being a pharmacist requires. You would call Lincoln a RINO.


You post stated that the republicans took a hard turn to the right! I am just saying being a progressive your understanding of the right is just about ZERO. I do have issues with some of what Lincoln did, by todays standards I am not sure whether he could be considered a democrat or a republican, Lincoln wanted to expand taxation to expand waterways that primarily would have benefited trade in the industrialized north, I am not going to say that the Civil War was not about slavery, because that was the primary dissatisfaction the south had with the federal government, but the taxing policies on their agrarian economy to support factories in the North was not insignificant.

""My policy sought only to collect the Revenue (a 40 percent federal sales tax on imports to Southern States under the Morrill Tariff Act of 1861)." reads paragraph 5 of Lincoln's First Message to the U.S. Congress, penned July 4, 1861.

"I have no purpose, directly or in-directly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so," Lincoln said it his first inaugural on March 4 of the same year.


So Thom, his hunger for taxation to pay for his goals of expansion certainly would lean to the side of your party, and history suggests that promoting individual rights including those of black people is more of a republican thing.

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Jul 14, 2021 10:20:31   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
thom w wrote:
The Republicans took a hard right. I am not going to question your intelligence, but your powers of observation suck.
If JFK hadn't been assassinated you'd hate him too.


boy, you pulled that right out of the old culo, didn't you!!!!!!!!

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Jul 14, 2021 10:55:37   #
CWGordon
 
I always find it entertaining that the right wing fascists think their best defense for destroying Democracy is to attempt to say Progressives are the ones doing all the stuff the white supremacist right wingers are doing.
Any right winger who denies their supremacist side should read some of the stuff I read earlier. Some of them seem to believe the enslaved should have thanked white people for the great opportunity slavery gave them. Yeah, right. I see how that has worked out for so many of them. Great opportunities, what a favor was done for them by enslaving them. We should all be proud of ourselves for the kindness and magnanimity they were shown.

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Jul 14, 2021 11:07:21   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
CWGordon wrote:
I always find it entertaining that the right wing fascists think their best defense for destroying Democracy is to attempt to say Progressives are the ones doing all the stuff the white supremacist right wingers are doing.
Any right winger who denies their supremacist side should read some of the stuff I read earlier. Some of them seem to believe the enslaved should have thanked white people for the great opportunity slavery gave them. Yeah, right. I see how that has worked out for so many of them. Great opportunities, what a favor was done for them by enslaving them. We should all be proud of ourselves for the kindness and magnanimity they were shown.
I always find it entertaining that the right wing ... (show quote)


Apparently you have reached rock bottom in your failed attempt to find an answer to the OP but are continuing to dig. That is rather entertaining to watch.

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Jul 14, 2021 11:14:58   #
Leo_B Loc: Houston suburb
 
thom w wrote:
The Republicans took a hard right. I am not going to question your intelligence, but your powers of observation suck.
If JFK hadn't been assassinated you'd hate him too.


JFK being assassinated has nothing to do with hating him or not hating him. I don't fully agree with him but overall he was a good representative of what democrats should be. There have been none since him.

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