soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Soviets and Nazis had such policies as well.
So I guess there is no problem if they did it.

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

And I am sure that when you were growing up you got the occasional reprimand or even spanking for breaking your parents' rules (that I know you thought were overbearing).

pendennis

As always, you miss the point. It's not about accepting scans, x-rays, etc., to get on an airplane. In the U.S. you cede rights to privacy to get on the plane.

You throw out several canards, including age limits on voting rights and speed limits, which have absolutely no relevancy as to the 4th Amendment right to privacy. The voting age in the U.S. was 21, Congress lowered it legally in the late 1960's.

The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled numerous times, that being in an automobile is not cause to be pulled over by the police unless they have probable cause to do so.

You have no inherent human freedoms in Canada; they're at the beck and call of Parliament and a runaway judiciary. Your courts routinely ignore private property rights, and you have no real freedom of speech. Your courts are hardly bound by precedence, and your Parliament can define, redefine, or outright ignore, rights on a whim. Your so-called constitution is really a misnomer, since it doesn't limit the powers of government.

However, you hardly have a corner on individual rights suppression. Your forefathers in England taught you well. We just had the good sense to toss the bastards out in 1776.

Rose42

I also read that there are police departments that won’t pull people over because thats going too far. It looks like there is a growing discontent in Canada

WNYShooter Loc: WNY

Yeah, just don't get caught in Canada calling a man who dresses like a female a man, or refering to your biologically female child as ‘daughter’. You can get jail time for that.

Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay

Can't argue with you about that, that's because I don't argue with anyone who is obviously insane.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Nope

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

Americans have different attitudes, we cherish freedom and liberty

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

We are NOT subjects, we are free citizens.

Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay

Don't fool yourself, it’s all an illusion.

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

You certainly are correct about the different attitude.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

I don't believe that any American who wasn't insecure would attack Canadians just because they are Canadians.

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

This is to Rose and penndennis.

Of course there is discontent. We are learning from y’all. That is truly unfortunate.

I have lived in the US and UK as well as Canada. Any differences in rights and freedoms were totally invisible/inconsequential. You can argue about Constitution vs Charter of Rights and trivial differences in legal systems, but it is all semantics. None of it makes any significant difference to the average law abiding citizen.

Do you want an example of stupid? In the Chauvin trial the defence witness raised the “possibility” of carbon monoxide playing a role in Floyd’s death. He did not have to prove anything about it. The prosecution countered with tests for CO levels in Floyd’s blood after the issue was raised, yet the judge ruled the evidence inadmissible. I understand the procedures/process/timing argument for that, but it makes no sense whatsoever. Are you pleased that the jury can now debate whether CO could have played a role when the blood tests showed it was not a factor? If exculpatory evidence were to arise after closing remarks but before a jury retired to debate a murder charge against you, would you not want it to be heard?

I don’t know if Canada has the same stupid law, but you will never convince me that your legal system is perfect or better than ours. At least we don’t go sentencing people to 300 years in prison or allowing for law suits in the millions of dollars for nonsense (a woman suing McDonalds for hot coffee spilled on her crotch... while driving; I guess it ruined her “career”).

Rose42

That's a cop out not to mention dishonest. Canadians have their own minds...or are you saying they don't?



I have lived in Europe. The differences and attitudes were indeed visible though in normal day to day life of the average person it would not be. In your country there is quite a difference between the rights of criminals and victims especially if you defend yourself - even without a gun. Criminals are treated far better than they are here - except in places like California.



Yes its stupid. A lot of stupid things happen here. One reason is we have way too many lawyers per capita and who wins often comes down to who has the best lawyer or the most money, regardless of right or wrong. This country is sue happy.



Who says our system is perfect? However, I am a firm believer in "innocent until proven guilty". Easy to say but not so easy in practice sometimes. Still, due process has to apply to all or it applies to none.

No country has a perfect system.